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  • Random Axe
    The Voice of Reason
    • Apr 16, 2008
    • 4518

    Marvel Family - What the hell?

    I picked up the latest few issues of JSA thinking there was going to be some kind of revival with Ordway taking the helm. Okay, I got the exact polar opposite. Billy Batson and Mary are stripped of their powers, Black Adam is now Theo Adam and a statue, the OLd Wizard goes ballistic and Freddy Freeman is out there somewhere with similar powers and now the wizard wants to take him out. Have I about got it?

    I'm still a DC guy to the core, but if you step back and look at the big picture, it's not very attractive.

    Shazam - no powers
    Aquaman - dead
    Martian Manhunter - dead
    Superman - off planet
    Batman - dead
    Atom - missing
    Vixen - still alive

    I guess Captain Marvel will eventually return to continuity and perhaps the DCU will right itself, but it's resently looking bleak at best. I really hope Ordway has plans for Shazam as long as they don't involve him drawing it. UGH.

    Rant off.

    Scott
    I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she dumped me before we met.

    If anyone here believes in psychokinesis, please raise my hand.
  • BlackKnight
    The DarkSide Customizer
    • Apr 16, 2005
    • 14622

    #2
    Atom just kinda Reapeared in FC ....We works for CheckMate ...

    How Come Vixen isn't dead ?

    You talking about the 3 Cover Spread Book from Ross ?
    I almost Bought that book, just becasue of that Awesome Cover... But didn't. I have been kinda dissapointed with the Direction of the Shazam! Family since Billy Became the Wizard, & Freddy Became Shazam! ...

    Shazam! is suppost to be a Member of that new Justice League Book,.. with Green Arrow, & Green Lantern,.. looks like Ray Palmer Atom & SuperGirl. Anyone Know when that comes out ? .
    ... The Original Knight ..., Often Imitated, However Never Duplicated. The 1st Knight in Customs.


    always trading for Hot Toys Figures .

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    • thunderbolt
      Hi Ernie!!!
      • Feb 15, 2004
      • 34211

      #3
      Freddy Freeman got dropped from the JLA Extreme or whatever its called due to what is going on in JSA. And that JL book is now a miniseries also featuring the blue Starman, Congorilla, Batwoman and one more I forget who. The Ordway arc in JSA is supposed to be fixing Billy, redeeming Mary, and returning the Wizard.
      You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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      • The Toyroom
        The Packaging King
        • Dec 31, 2004
        • 16653

        #4
        Originally posted by thunderbolt
        Freddy Freeman got dropped from the JLA Extreme or whatever its called due to what is going on in JSA.
        I think he's still in the JLA mini-series....but now wearing the red suit instead of the blue as previously shown.
        Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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        • PNGwynne
          Master of Fowl Play
          • Jun 5, 2008
          • 19950

          #5
          God, this is why I don't read monthly comics anymore. I'm a die-hard DC fan, but look at what they've done to Batman, Aquaman, & Capt. Marvel---my three favorite characters!

          It really makes me sad & angry when I think about it, and why pay $4.00(?) for a book that makes you feel that way? I don't mind shakin' things up to keep things interesting, but much of this tinkering seems disrespectful to the creators, the fans, &, yes, the mythic quality of superheroes.

          Or maybe I'm just getting crochety: (Grumpy oldster voice): "When I was a boy, we..."
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          • Earth 2 Chris
            Verbose Member
            • Mar 7, 2004
            • 32972

            #6
            I'm with you PNGwynne. I would think Johns and Ordway would eventually clean up the mess that Winnick and others have done to the Marvels.

            Oh and if Black Adam went away and never reappeared again, I don't think I'd mind. He is the most over-used character in comics for the last several years.

            Chris
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            • The Toyroom
              The Packaging King
              • Dec 31, 2004
              • 16653

              #7
              Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
              Oh and if Black Adam went away and never reappeared again, I don't think I'd mind. He is the most over-used character in comics for the last several years.
              If DC put out a moratorium on Black Adam and Deathstroke for a few years it'd be fine by me....
              Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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              • kryptosmaster
                Removed.
                • Jun 14, 2008
                • 0

                #8
                The last good thing they did with the Marvel Family was "The Power of Shazam" series.

                Rant: Why in the world can't DC sue for the name Captain Marvel or find some way to legally use it on the cover? He is the ORIGINAL Captain Marvel. Gotta have some leg to stand on there legally (ethically?) even if the copyright did lapse and Marvel scammed it?

                Rich

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                • The Toyroom
                  The Packaging King
                  • Dec 31, 2004
                  • 16653

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kryptosmaster
                  Rant: Why in the world can't DC sue for the name Captain Marvel or find some way to legally use it on the cover? He is the ORIGINAL Captain Marvel. Gotta have some leg to stand on there legally (ethically?) even if the copyright did lapse and Marvel scammed it?
                  Is it really worth it at this point in the game? At least by lawsuit standards....lots of cash involved especially when he's almost universally referred to as "Shazam!" by the general public...has been for over 35 years.
                  Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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                  • kryptosmaster
                    Removed.
                    • Jun 14, 2008
                    • 0

                    #10
                    Originally posted by The Toyroom
                    Is it really worth it at this point in the game? At least by lawsuit standards....lots of cash involved especially when he's almost universally referred to as "Shazam!" by the general public...has been for over 35 years.
                    Just one of my personal pet peeves.
                    I feel Marvel stole that name.

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                    • The Toyroom
                      The Packaging King
                      • Dec 31, 2004
                      • 16653

                      #11
                      Yeah but DC sorta stole Captain Marvel/Shazam from Fawcett.... Karma's a beeyotch, even in the comic world.
                      Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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                      • kryptosmaster
                        Removed.
                        • Jun 14, 2008
                        • 0

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Toyroom
                        Yeah but DC sorta stole Captain Marvel/Shazam from Fawcett.... Karma's a beeyotch, even in the comic world.
                        Touche'

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                        • BlackKnight
                          The DarkSide Customizer
                          • Apr 16, 2005
                          • 14622

                          #13
                          Originally posted by The Toyroom
                          If DC put out a moratorium on Black Adam and Deathstroke for a few years it'd be fine by me....

                          BAH !

                          Deathstroke needs his Own Monthly, More toys & a Movie.
                          ... The Original Knight ..., Often Imitated, However Never Duplicated. The 1st Knight in Customs.


                          always trading for Hot Toys Figures .

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                          • BlackKnight
                            The DarkSide Customizer
                            • Apr 16, 2005
                            • 14622

                            #14
                            Originally posted by thunderbolt
                            Freddy Freeman got dropped from the JLA Extreme or whatever its called due to what is going on in JSA

                            How come all the books & Images are still soliciting the Character, & in the Red Suit,.. if he is no Longer going to be a Part of the Book ?
                            ... The Original Knight ..., Often Imitated, However Never Duplicated. The 1st Knight in Customs.


                            always trading for Hot Toys Figures .

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                            • thunderbolt
                              Hi Ernie!!!
                              • Feb 15, 2004
                              • 34211

                              #15
                              ^^^ I dunno, I read that was part of the delay for the book.
                              You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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