It's obvious price point is a major factor.

[Blue Meanie]

I really dont understand how anyone can defend a product that falls apart right out of the package for $20?? Now its cool just for spare parts?
Or has two right hand. or two left arms? And this reputation is going to get the toys into the hands of the public? Little noncustomizing kids?
I understand sticking up for friends but come on. If it was anything else........

Again, it's not sticking up for anyone...it's about the fact that the MAJORITY of the Retro Action sales that will happen are to guysand gals 35 and up that always wanted that Green Lantern, Flash, or Lex Luther figure when they were a kid. Again, follow the logic here, if you were to go out and try to make your own Flash, Lantern, or Lex figure it would cost you a lot more than 20 bucks. The retro figures are giving you all you need to kitbash your own figure for $20.

For the person that's BUYING FOR THEIR KID...yeah, I'd be upset too...but it all goes back to where the majority of the sales that will be generated from these figures...and the MAJORITY of the sales are from guys/gals that are 35 and up. It's just a fact...so for those 35 and up people to complain, when you know they are gonna kitbash anyway is just absurd. And to those that are just gonna keep the figures on the cards and not even take them off of the card...then they should just stay quiet. There is nothing to complain about if you don't take the figure off of the card.

The other option is you can always buy them at TJ Maxx or wait until Toys R Us does their inventory in the middle of January and they have to start getting rid of dead stock...maybe the price will drop.

[jemboy2004]

I really dont understand how anyone can defend a product that falls apart right out of the package for $20?? Now its cool just for spare parts?
Or has two right hand. or two left arms? And this reputation is going to get the toys into the hands of the public? Little noncustomizing kids?
I understand sticking up for friends but come on. If it was anything else........

Well your just wrong s I'm not friends with those who do Emce toys I know who Paul is as he's been doing mego stuff forever but I don't know him personally but id complain I if I thought as you do but I don't.

Do you buys toys? All toys are expensive now a days.

[jemboy2004]

I'm sorry but the "I have to spend $10+ for a custom head alone...blahblahblah" argument holds no water with me.
You are comparing a (normally) handmade, made-to-order item to a mass-produced figure from a MAJOR toy company.
Neither does the "little crappy figures cost $7...blahblahblah".
Did you ever consider THOSE figures are OVERPRICED as well??
People have already made up their minds and no amount of arguing, proof or persuasion will change that view.
In the end it boils down to some people have more spending money than others and $20 to a guy living in a big house with 2 brand new cars in the garage and making $100,000+ a year is a lot less money than it is to a guy struggling to pay the bills every month and only has a limited amount to spend on toys. That doesn't mean the guy with less money has any less love for the hobby. Maybe he just wishes the toys were a little more affordable so he could enjoy them along with the "big boys" too.
I don't understand the condemnation of those who point out the flaws in these figures and give reasons why they should cost less than they do.
I'm not against capitalism nor a company making a buck and succeeding. I'm not against the retro line either. I'm against overcharging for a product that doesn't live up to it's price tag and could have a lot more market penetration if the product were less exclusive to one store.

Rich

No no no it's not like that at all. You complain about the price as you see it's too high but then claim anyone who doesn't agree with you must be rich with a big house and 2 new cars when that's not the case at all. I will admit I have the extra money for these toys but if I didn't think it was worth it to me I wouldn't buy it. I bought my nieces and nephews a bunch of toys they wanted for christmas and I kept thinking boy toys are sure cheap for the money they charge today.

I pointed out other toys that show this is what the market is at for toys like this. You might have a point as maybe all the other items are overpriced as well and I do think all toys are expensive today. The cost of toys have gone way up and you get less for the buck too. That's why I see these figures at a price that's no more or less than other toys available now.

I'll buy these figure and I think they are worth the $20.00 considering what else is out for 20.00 and even more. 10.00 sure makes them more appealing and I'd buy extra's to mess with but think if you look at other toys, these are not way more than anything esle that's available now.

[Doc]

Do you buys toys? All toys are expensive now a days.

I usually get my broken toys at Flea markets and garage sales. At a cheaper price. I dont usually shop major retailers to buy "New" broken stuff at full retail price. To each their own.
Would you buy a coffee maker you knew would probably be broken at full price just to get the coffee pot. Because loose coffee pots are not cost effective. Or would you switch to tea? LOL

[jwyblejr]

I'm sorry but the "I have to spend $10+ for a custom head alone...blahblahblah" argument holds no water with me.
You are comparing a (normally) handmade, made-to-order item to a mass-produced figure from a MAJOR toy company.
Neither does the "little crappy figures cost $7...blahblahblah".
Did you ever consider THOSE figures are OVERPRICED as well??
People have already made up their minds and no amount of arguing, proof or persuasion will change that view.
In the end it boils down to some people have more spending money than others and $20 to a guy living in a big house with 2 brand new cars in the garage and making $100,000+ a year is a lot less money than it is to a guy struggling to pay the bills every month and only has a limited amount to spend on toys. That doesn't mean the guy with less money has any less love for the hobby. Maybe he just wishes the toys were a little more affordable so he could enjoy them along with the "big boys" too.
I don't understand the condemnation of those who point out the flaws in these figures and give reasons why they should cost less than they do.
I'm not against capitalism nor a company making a buck and succeeding. I'm not against the retro line either. I'm against overcharging for a product that doesn't live up to it's price tag and could have a lot more market penetration if the product were less exclusive to one store.

Rich

Actually,those $7 figures are overpriced at TRU. Next time you go,check out the prices on the Vintage Star Wars figures. Then go to Target and Wal-Mart. Big difference,right?

[Doc]

I'm sorry but the "I have to spend $10+ for a custom head alone...blahblahblah" argument holds no water with me.
You are comparing a (normally) handmade, made-to-order item to a mass-produced figure from a MAJOR toy company.
Neither does the "little crappy figures cost $7...blahblahblah".
Did you ever consider THOSE figures are OVERPRICED as well??
People have already made up their minds and no amount of arguing, proof or persuasion will change that view.
In the end it boils down to some people have more spending money than others and $20 to a guy living in a big house with 2 brand new cars in the garage and making $100,000+ a year is a lot less money than it is to a guy struggling to pay the bills every month and only has a limited amount to spend on toys. That doesn't mean the guy with less money has any less love for the hobby. Maybe he just wishes the toys were a little more affordable so he could enjoy them along with the "big boys" too.
I don't understand the condemnation of those who point out the flaws in these figures and give reasons why they should cost less than they do.
I'm not against capitalism nor a company making a buck and succeeding. I'm not against the retro line either. I'm against overcharging for a product that doesn't live up to it's price tag and could have a lot more market penetration if the product were less exclusive to one store.

Rich

[Blue Meanie]

Originally Posted by kryptosmaster
I'm sorry but the "I have to spend $10+ for a custom head alone...blahblahblah" argument holds no water with me.
You are comparing a (normally) handmade, made-to-order item to a mass-produced figure from a MAJOR toy company.
Neither does the "little crappy figures cost $7...blahblahblah".
Did you ever consider THOSE figures are OVERPRICED as well??
People have already made up their minds and no amount of arguing, proof or persuasion will change that view.
In the end it boils down to some people have more spending money than others and $20 to a guy living in a big house with 2 brand new cars in the garage and making $100,000+ a year is a lot less money than it is to a guy struggling to pay the bills every month and only has a limited amount to spend on toys. That doesn't mean the guy with less money has any less love for the hobby. Maybe he just wishes the toys were a little more affordable so he could enjoy them along with the "big boys" too.
I don't understand the condemnation of those who point out the flaws in these figures and give reasons why they should cost less than they do.
I'm not against capitalism nor a company making a buck and succeeding. I'm not against the retro line either. I'm against overcharging for a product that doesn't live up to it's price tag and could have a lot more market penetration if the product were less exclusive to one store.

I don't make anywhere near $100,000 a year...so your argument is pointless. I buy WHAT I LIKE with whatever "ME" money I have left after bills. I like the fact that the Retro Action figures can let me kitbash and make a GL Mego or a Flash or a Luthor figure without having to spend at least $50 for a custom that has a resin head.

We all know the Retro figures have issues...it's been DONE TO DEATH on the museum. If the figures are that flawed and are too rich for your liking...DON'T BUY THEM. It's that simple...but to complain the same crap over and over again is just pointless. Just DON'T BUY THE FIGURES.

Have you filed any complaints with Mattel about the flaws in the figure? If it bothers you THAT MUCH then file a complaint...and while you're at it see if you can get the price lowered. Get my point...complaining here doesn't really DO anything. Maybe file a complaint with the BBB if you feel that you've been wronged in some way by Mattel having made such crappy figures. I really don't know what else there is that anyone can do that will make you happy. Good Luck.

[ScottA]

I agree. This isn't the Mattel Complant Department. Go to Matty.com. The whining here really does get old post after post after post.

[Doc]

I have no issue at all with the company. My question was for the people who want to buy New broken stuff. Like it was pointed out it whoevers money they can do with it what they want. I can sell you some broken things and I'll even do it cheaper then the store

[PeterRR]

The way these figures look at $10.00 I think it is too much. Some people don't even make $10.00 an hour so you mean to say you have to work one hour to pay for one of these crappy looking figures. I would rather work a whole day and buy a great looking Hot toys figure then work an hour to pay for one Mattel retro junk.

[The Bat]

You just proved the point that EVEN at $19.99 it's still a good deal. To customize a figure it still would cost more than $20. That's why I don't understand why some are upset at a $20 price point.

Totally a agree...they are still a good deal $19.99, for that reason alone.

[MIB41]

I think when Wave 3 hits the pegs in January, a lot of the criticism will subside about price and quality. The fix is in with the bodies and the latest characters look great. Give this line another chance guys. All four of these figures in Wave 3 are awesome up close.

[Wise4671]

I think when Wave 3 hits the pegs in January, a lot of the criticism will subside about price and quality. The fix is in with the bodies and the latest characters look great. Give this line another chance guys. All four of these figures in Wave 3 are awesome up close.

My sons Flash and Captain Cold are both very loose so Im not sure what you mean by the fix is in with the bodies?

Other then that they do look great in person

[geoffdude]

My sons Flash and Captain Cold are both very loose so Im not sure what you mean by the fix is in with the bodies?

Other then that they do look great in person

What is the "fix" exactly (for wave 3).. and other waves if different? Anyone know?

* Wise4671, could you shoot some pictures of the mechanics within the torso/waist area of either figure you have and post here? I'm curious what updates, if any, have been made.

(They will need to be partially unclothed... but that's OK, we're all certified toy scrubs here.)

Thanks and regards,

Geoff

[MIB41]

Original pic courtesy of Stabilio. There is a new plastic piece that connects the upper torso with the pelvis. This prevents the 'bends' in the new wave and allows them to pose measurably better. Click on the pic for a better closeup. I couldn't get this one to expand for some strange reason.