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  • The Bat
    Batman Fanatic
    • Jul 14, 2002
    • 13412

    #76
    This is great to hear...because seriously, who doesn't want the line to continue? This is something we've waited 30 years for!
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    • cdhall
      Persistent Member
      • Aug 14, 2004
      • 1099

      #77
      If it doesn't interfere with the Retro theme, I would vote for:
      1. Swivel Biceps
      2. Larger chest but NOT like the goofy Justice League Cartoon guys, goodness no, there is a Space Ghost custom on here somewhere that looks very heroic
      3. More sculpted abs would be fine
      4. Kung-Fu grip/grippy hands, I remember how cool these were on GI Joe even if he was too big...
      5. Fix Superman's flat head


      It would be cool if a novice like me could swap hands and maybe feet/shoes but not if it made the hands/feet too loose to be stable.

      Right now I just want the waist issue/wobbly legs/hip thrust and the looseness fixed.
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      • Ivaniski
        Persistent Member
        • Jun 24, 2007
        • 1428

        #78
        About those bodies......

        Originally posted by cdhall
        If it doesn't interfere with the Retro theme, I would vote for:
        1. Swivel Biceps
        2. Larger chest but NOT like the goofy Justice League Cartoon guys, goodness no, there is a Space Ghost custom on here somewhere that looks very heroic
        3. More sculpted abs would be fine
        4. Kung-Fu grip/grippy hands, I remember how cool these were on GI Joe even if he was too big...
        5. Fix Superman's flat head


        It would be cool if a novice like me could swap hands and maybe feet/shoes but not if it made the hands/feet too loose to be stable.

        Right now I just want the waist issue/wobbly legs/hip thrust and the looseness fixed.
        Agreed 1000%!!!
        Definitely,.... remake Superman's flat head and give him more of a protruding chin. Also, minimize and define Green Lantern's head a wee bit.

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        • TrueDave
          Toy Maker
          • Jan 12, 2008
          • 2343

          #79
          Face sculpts are bad. Supes, Luthor, Compare Aquamans 1970's to 2010's

          Too smooth like a child or something.

          A tilting neck would be nice for flying poses.

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          • The Bat
            Batman Fanatic
            • Jul 14, 2002
            • 13412

            #80
            Ya can't please everybody I guess. I love the Luthor Sculpt, Supes is ok, and the new Aquaman blows the original Mego one away.

            But don't get me started on Batman. It bums me out too much.
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            • EMCEtoys
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 1, 2007
              • 284

              #81
              I think it's hysterical about the Aquaman sculpt complaints, given that it is the exact same Mego Aquaman head with only the hairstyle and sideburns changed. We changed nothing else.

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              • huedell
                Museum Ball Eater
                • Dec 31, 2003
                • 11069

                #82
                Originally posted by EMCEtoys
                I think it's hysterical about the Aquaman sculpt complaints, given that it is the exact same Mego Aquaman head with only the hairstyle and sideburns changed. We changed nothing else.
                It's not such a hysterical notion once you take into consideration that Mego's sculpt wasn't all that great to begin with, and the only thing keeping Mego's sculpt from looking too youngish looking was the minimal
                hairstyle which Mattel (as you noted) changed, adding more mass
                and making it look arguably worse to that complaining contingent you're referencing.

                Personally, in the grand scheme of things it's not a big snag in the line
                full of wonderful achievements, but since you used the
                extreme word "hysterical", I thought I'd shed some light on the
                other side.... Mattel has opportunities to hit grandslams
                with sculpts, and Aquaman just isn't "that", is what people are noting.
                "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                • BlackKnight
                  The DarkSide Customizer
                  • Apr 16, 2005
                  • 14622

                  #83
                  Mego was a Toy Company AHEAD of it's time in The 70's.
                  Flash Forward , It's now the Year 2010. Over 35 Years Later.
                  People are Disapointed with Retro Head Sculpts, Because they do Not Represent Iconic Likenesses to Characters, sich As BBP Stuff Does, Trek or Even The New Universal Monsters. Retro Hero Heads come off as Generic Interpritations of Characters . Thats Fantastic in 1973 ..., But Not in 2010. That's why you will hear complaints, and whatnot . JMO.

                  Think if that Aquaman Head Looked like Aparo Drew Him ..., or Even Lopez. Or if that Green Lantern Head looked like Neal Adams Himself Drew Him , and so Forth.

                  Likeness Has Extreme Pull.
                  I've Never read, or heard a single Complaint with Venture Bro's, Trek, TZ or Universal Monster's. Why ? ... Because the Figures look like the Characters.
                  Last edited by BlackKnight; Dec 3, '10, 8:44 PM.
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                  • The Bat
                    Batman Fanatic
                    • Jul 14, 2002
                    • 13412

                    #84
                    Originally posted by BlackKnight
                    Think if that Aquaman Head Looked like Aparo Drew Him ..., or Even Lopez. Or if that Green Lantern Head looked like Neal Adams Himself Drew Him , and so Forth.
                    Excellent point BK. And one I've repeated in the past...that if you sculpt these Figures to look like Neal Adams, Aparo, Lopez...since they're all 70's Artists, you would still be keeping with the Mego era.
                    Last edited by The Bat; Dec 4, '10, 8:46 AM.
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                    • CrimsonGhost
                      Often invisible
                      • Jul 18, 2002
                      • 3610

                      #85
                      The question is: Mego era or Mego like? The initial intent was to make figures that could be displayed with original Mego figures and they would seem to be from the same line. Venture Bros, Twilight Zone, etc. Didn't have any early figures so modern sculpts are fine with those.
                      I remember seeing someones Flash custom recently and there were so many comments about " I sure hope Mattel makes theirs look like this one!" and I disagreed completely. The head was too modern with an angry expression, giant chin, and somewhat out of scale with the body. It would stick out immediately next to original Megos and I didn't want that at all.
                      So the new heads have a bit of generic Mego style to them, and I'm ok with that.
                      Expectation is the death of discovery.

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                      • EMCEtoys
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 1, 2007
                        • 284

                        #86
                        Originally posted by CrimsonGhost
                        The question is: Mego era or Mego like? The initial intent was to make figures that could be displayed with original Mego figures and they would seem to be from the same line. Venture Bros, Twilight Zone, etc. Didn't have any early figures so modern sculpts are fine with those.
                        I remember seeing someones Flash custom recently and there were so many comments about " I sure hope Mattel makes theirs look like this one!" and I disagreed completely. The head was too modern with an angry expression, giant chin, and somewhat out of scale with the body. It would stick out immediately next to original Megos and I didn't want that at all.
                        So the new heads have a bit of generic Mego style to them, and I'm ok with that.
                        I'm with this line of thinking. Our intent has always been to tweak the Megos and improve what we thought were egregious flaws. So, just be clear that when you pick on a sculpt that is clearly a tweaked original, you couch your disappointment in the fact that we went with the original sculpt to begin with. One thing we have no interest in is getting into the "which artist is better" quagmire, unless DC has a very specific or different take on the character and dictates a new approach.

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                        • The Bat
                          Batman Fanatic
                          • Jul 14, 2002
                          • 13412

                          #87
                          Well, the argument could also be made that while some of the Mego Figures were "goofy looking"...like Batman for example. Some were really more Comic Book accurate like Mr.Fantastic & the Green Goblin.

                          So really...Mego went in both directions.
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                          • EMCEtoys
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 1, 2007
                            • 284

                            #88
                            Originally posted by The Bat
                            Well, the argument could also be made that while some of the Mego Figures were "goofy looking"...like Batman for example. Some were really more Comic Book accurate like Mr.Fantastic & the Green Goblin.

                            So really...Mego went in both directions.
                            Y'know, that's an excellent point. But, if we really want to go down the path of trying to trace a line through the styles Mego did as time went on, it would most likely land us in either of two places:

                            1) 3 1/2 figures - which Marty Abrams himself has said was where they were headed, as the multiple-process 8" figs were getting too expensive to produce even in the 70s, or,

                            2) $40 hyper-realistic master collector figures. Frankly, I'd like very much to do this, but I think we had to see how this initial approach worked.

                            So, the way it's netting out now, is that we're imagining ourselves designing the figures in 1978-79, with the current style guides and character compliances issued by the IP holders. In fact, we're having an issue right now with a sculpt that came in for a classic Mego character (no, I won't tell you or the Mattel black helicopters will take me away), which is far superior than the original, almost to the point of hyper-realism. We love it to death, but it strayed WAY too far from the classic Mego "innocent" look we usually shoot for.

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                            • The Bat
                              Batman Fanatic
                              • Jul 14, 2002
                              • 13412

                              #89
                              Originally posted by EMCEtoys
                              In fact, we're having an issue right now with a sculpt that came in for a classic Mego character (no, I won't tell you or the Mattel black helicopters will take me away), which is far superior than the original, almost to the point of hyper-realism. We love it to death, but it strayed WAY too far from the classic Mego "innocent" look we usually shoot for.
                              Well that's a bummer. I'd REALLY like to see that Sculpt. Hey...use the argument I just did, with Mattel. That Mego went in both directions! What'd ya think?
                              Last edited by The Bat; Dec 4, '10, 3:05 PM.
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                              • EMCEtoys
                                Veteran Member
                                • Feb 1, 2007
                                • 284

                                #90
                                Originally posted by The Bat
                                Hey...you the argument I just did, with Mattel. That Mego went in both directions! What'd ya think?
                                Thought I answered that...or is my sarcasm detector not functioning?

                                Or are you saying they "swung both ways"?

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