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  • samurainoir
    Eloquent Member
    • Dec 26, 2006
    • 18758

    Two Face's Coin

    I'm sure there must have been behind the scenes discussions around whether or not to include Two Face's coin with the Retro Figure.

    Not that any previous Two Face figure has presented much of an eloquent solution for such a tiny accessory, other than including 1:1 scaled coins or having the coin sculpted into the hand.

    I'm just curious what led to Mattel's decision to not include what most consider the crucial accessory for Harvey Dent?
    Last edited by samurainoir; Aug 26, '10, 11:17 AM.
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  • Orion1
    Member
    • Apr 7, 2010
    • 58

    #2
    There was No discussion. This is Mattel you're talking about. Mattel has NO quality control whatsoever. Their entire business model is based on the "good enough" philosophy.

    Why should they pack in character appropriate accessories, why should they redesign a horribly constructed body? - Will they sell more units that way? That would only cut into their profit margin. They know DC Super Hero collector's will buy a piece of dog excrement once they plop a Bat mask and cape on it and seal it in a package.

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    • Meule
      Verbose Member
      • Nov 14, 2004
      • 28720

      #3
      I have no solution either cause it would really be a tiny accessory, but it would've been cool

      Originally posted by Orion1
      They know DC Super Hero collector's will buy a piece of dog excrement once they plop a Bat mask and cape on it and seal it in a package.
      I'm a big Batman fan, but that's where I draw the line
      "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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      • Meule
        Verbose Member
        • Nov 14, 2004
        • 28720

        #4
        Hmmm, the only thing they maybe could've done is have a giant coin on the back of the card and make it a cut-out, like the Kiss instruments. But then the back of the card wouldn't have been the same as the others, which is another problem. I guess not including one was just easier
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        • PNGwynne
          Master of Fowl Play
          • Jun 5, 2008
          • 19903

          #5
          The best solution, imo, would've been to mold one of his hands in a pinched position, holding a coin which is molded-on & painted.

          A .45 could have been included for the other hand.
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          • enyawd72
            Maker of Monsters!
            • Oct 1, 2009
            • 7904

            #6
            Originally posted by Orion1
            There was No discussion. This is Mattel you're talking about. Mattel has NO quality control whatsoever. Their entire business model is based on the "good enough" philosophy.

            Why should they pack in character appropriate accessories, why should they redesign a horribly constructed body? - Will they sell more units that way? That would only cut into their profit margin. They know DC Super Hero collector's will buy a piece of dog excrement once they plop a Bat mask and cape on it and seal it in a package.
            Gee, now we're comparing the Retro Batman to dog crap? That's a little overboard. These figures aren't perfect, but what is? Plenty of people seem to like them just as they are, including myself. I have all nine standing tall on my shelf and they look great. I don't delude myself into thinking the original Megos were any better either. I played with the originals too when I was a kid, and I remember knees and elbows that broke easily, emblems that fell off, boots that split at the seam, and oven mitts.

            The Retro-Action figures are light years ahead IMO.

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            • The Toyroom
              The Packaging King
              • Dec 31, 2004
              • 16653

              #7
              Originally posted by samurainoir
              I'm sure there must have been behind the scenes discussions around whether or not to include Two Face's coin with the Retro Figure.

              Not that any previous figure Two Face figure has presented much of an eloquent solution for such a tiny accessory, other than including 1:1 scaled coins or having the coin sculpted into the hand.
              The DC Direct 13" Two-Face came with a loose coin that's in scale with the figure....so it could have been done if Mattel had wanted to...Unless of course the "small parts choking rule" applies differently to stuff marketed at a TRU level as opposed to DC Direct?
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              • CrimsonGhost
                Often invisible
                • Jul 18, 2002
                • 3608

                #8
                A scale coin would have been ridiculously tiny. If it wasn't simply lost immediately, it surely would have been a choking hazard. I don't think making a coin holding hand is a good solution either.
                Expectation is the death of discovery.

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                • Sandman9580
                  Career Member
                  • Feb 16, 2010
                  • 741

                  #9
                  ^ By "choking hazard" you mean "ingestion hazard", right?

                  It'd be so tiny that including it as an accessory would have been kinda silly, I think. 12" is probably the appropriate threshold, and even that's tiny. I agree with PNGwynne: molding and painting it to the hand would have been the way to go, if they were going to do it at all.

                  As it is, I don't really miss it not being there. Seems like it could be a pretty easy custom: thin cardboard, glue, tin foil, a hole-punch maybe?

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                  • huedell
                    Museum Ball Eater
                    • Dec 31, 2003
                    • 11069

                    #10
                    What's with all this talk about it being in scale?
                    Making a big "out of scale" "Two-Face coin" would've been great
                    (as well as practical). Shame.
                    "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                    • Sandman9580
                      Career Member
                      • Feb 16, 2010
                      • 741

                      #11
                      Originally posted by huedell
                      What's with all this talk about it being in scale?
                      Making a big "out of scale" "Two-Face coin" would've been great
                      (as well as practical). Shame.
                      Do you mean full-scale? Or having him look like he's holding a coaster?

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                      • CrimsonGhost
                        Often invisible
                        • Jul 18, 2002
                        • 3608

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sandman9580
                        ^ By "choking hazard" you mean "ingestion hazard", right?

                        It'd be so tiny that including it as an accessory would have been kinda silly, I think. 12" is probably the appropriate threshold, and even that's tiny. I agree with PNGwynne: molding and painting it to the hand would have been the way to go, if they were going to do it at all.

                        As it is, I don't really miss it not being there. Seems like it could be a pretty easy custom: thin cardboard, glue, tin foil, a hole-punch maybe?
                        I guess that is what I mean. But I'm with you, I don't miss it. I do intend to give mine two pistols from the set Dr. Mego made as well as a green left hand.
                        Expectation is the death of discovery.

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                        • huedell
                          Museum Ball Eater
                          • Dec 31, 2003
                          • 11069

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sandman9580
                          Do you mean full-scale? Or having him look like he's holding a coaster?
                          I think coaster'd be better (i.e. substantial enough to hold, yet not unnecessarily big) than a bigger (full scale) coin.
                          "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                          • CrimsonGhost
                            Often invisible
                            • Jul 18, 2002
                            • 3608

                            #14
                            Originally posted by huedell
                            I think coaster'd be better (i.e. substantial enough to hold, yet not unnecessarily big) than a bigger (full scale) coin.
                            Ha Ha! "Batman! You'll either live or die based on a flip of this coaster!!"

                            Yeah, I'll pass on that.
                            Expectation is the death of discovery.

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                            • B-Lister
                              Eccentric Weirdo
                              • Mar 19, 2010
                              • 3071

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CrimsonGhost
                              I guess that is what I mean. But I'm with you, I don't miss it. I do intend to give mine two pistols from the set Dr. Mego made as well as a green left hand.
                              SA Two Face did not have a green left hand.
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