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  • bizzaro megomauler
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    Anyone here ever own the "clash of the titans" pegasus mattel did? I always wanted wings fastened like that on a mego for hawkman. they could be nicely placed behind him detached.

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  • The Bat
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    Originally posted by scott metzger
    The material approach is likely the way to go here, and a wire along the upper edge works great for posability.

    The problem is the package, and Mattel will not make a figure that does not fit in a standard package (they apparently never saw Toy Biz use larger blisters for larger figures ). THey've used that as a reason they couldn't make certain figures more than once. If the wings could fold over and still fit in a standard blister, Hawkman would be a possibility. If not, I don't know how much of a chance we'd have to get him.

    Welcome Back Scott!! It's good to see you here Buddy! You & Charlie Flatt the reason I started Customizing.

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  • bobws
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    I say sometime between year 2 and 3 we'll see a Hawkman. he was in superfriends and therefore he'll in the top wanted character list.

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  • boynightwing
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    I've never been a huge fan of Hawkman. However I'd get Hawkgirl if they make her.

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  • Tothiro
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    Originally posted by scott metzger
    The material approach is likely the way to go here, and a wire along the upper edge works great for posability.
    Metzger? Nice Where've you been hiding?

    I agree a soft-goods approach would be the mego style - a screen print similar to Falcon's wings.
    I don't know if Mattel would warm to that design idea though... I get the feeling their design template may be "retro within reason," considering the body changes, boot changes, accessory pack ins, etc.

    Though an alternate, later-mego idea would be a flat but hard plastic one-piece pair of wings with a span as wide as the figure is tall... (thinking thicker but almost vacu-formed or "stamped" in appearance... maybe .5mm thick sculpt. Like a surfboard in shape) then the part could be packed behind the figure in the clamshell and simply attach to a peg or such on the harness back.

    Either approach could work in the existing packaging.

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  • PNGwynne
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    I always thought that Mego would have done Hawkman (& Dr. Octopus) with backpack-style harnesses that included the tentacles or wings. They might have been semi-poseable, but would have fit inside the standard blister.

    I think Mattel could easily do the same thing, with the wings molded in the folded position. (Like Super Powers.)

    As far as availability, I think we'll see Plastic Man & Capt. Marvel sooner, but shouldn't Hawkman & Atom arive thereafter?

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  • thunderbolt
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    In the past the non standard package fitting figures from Mattel lines end up as SDCC or Matty exclusives. Hope this is not the case for Hawkman. I could see him being in line to be in wave 4 or 5.

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  • scott metzger
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    The material approach is likely the way to go here, and a wire along the upper edge works great for posability.

    The problem is the package, and Mattel will not make a figure that does not fit in a standard package (they apparently never saw Toy Biz use larger blisters for larger figures ). THey've used that as a reason they couldn't make certain figures more than once. If the wings could fold over and still fit in a standard blister, Hawkman would be a possibility. If not, I don't know how much of a chance we'd have to get him.

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  • samurainoir
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    Originally posted by spamn
    That might do it, especially if they sew poseable bendy wire into the outline of the cape. Then they could screen print the wings and it would be a slightly more expensive to make cape rather than a huge manufacturing and repackaging deal.
    Screen printed "Feathers" is a very Mego thing to do, alongside the screen printed "Rocks" and "Flames" on Thing and Torch, there is a precedence there.

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  • spamn
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    Originally posted by samurainoir
    In my mind, the most Mego-ey thing that they could do is to make the wings as cardboard cut-outs on the back of the package like the Kiss Instruments.

    Of course the contemporary consumer won't go for such a thing, but that what I imagine Mego might have done.

    alternatively, what about cloth wings wrapped on top of soft mesh wire support that can easily roll/fold to fit into the blister?
    That might do it, especially if they sew poseable bendy wire into the outline of the wing to allow you to set it in different positions. Then they could screen print the wings and it would end up being a slightly more expensive to make cape rather than a huge manufacturing and repackaging deal.
    Last edited by spamn; Mar 30, '10, 2:35 PM.

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  • samurainoir
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    In my mind, the most Mego-ey thing that they could do is to make the wings as cardboard cut-outs on the back of the package like the Kiss Instruments.

    Of course the contemporary consumer won't go for such a thing, but that what I imagine Mego might have done.

    alternatively, what about cloth wings wrapped on top of soft mesh wire support that can easily roll/fold to fit into the blister?

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  • spamn
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    Originally posted by Orion
    He is on the top of my wish list for figures to be produced. A removable helmet would be fantastic. The Mattel DCUC Hawkman figure was one of the best that came out of that line to date. I would love to see Mattel take a shot at him in this line as well.

    Could the style of the wings from the DCUC be borrowed and used on a retro figure? Not sure how you go about doing that. (Last time I asked a similar question on how Mego would have portrayed the wings if they had done this figure back in the 70's, someone pointed out they could have done a "stuffed Lizard tail" style - which seemed a very reasonable approach.)

    Hawkman is certainly not an easy figure to do right - but one that I would be very happy to see done.
    I don't see why they can't do in 8" scale what they did with the DCUC figures. For anyone that doesn't know, what they do is anchor a rod in the torso back that functions as a hinge pin pointing to the ground. Then they put the wings on that so they can flap, and ideally the wings are each two pieces so that they can fold up. See below:



    I'd certainly want it done this way over any stuffed/sewn solution. The question is: can they do this successfully while still having the figure strung with rubber bands? Would the wingpost interfere with the neckpost?

    A possible solution is to make a new back half of the torso mold that includes a molded wingpost. That's more costly, but could work.

    Of course, there's the question of whether the extra plastic required for the wings breaks the price point. If they just reuse the molds from the above figure, they can save tooling costs.

    Doesn't solve the packaging question, though.
    Last edited by spamn; Mar 30, '10, 1:35 PM.

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  • Orion
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    He is on the top of my wish list for figures to be produced. A removable helmet would be fantastic. The Mattel DCUC Hawkman figure was one of the best that came out of that line to date. I would love to see Mattel take a shot at him in this line as well.

    Could the style of the wings from the DCUC be borrowed and used on a retro figure? Not sure how you go about doing that. (Last time I asked a similar question on how Mego would have portrayed the wings if they had done this figure back in the 70's, someone pointed out they could have done a "stuffed Lizard tail" style - which seemed a very reasonable approach.)

    Hawkman is certainly not an easy figure to do right - but one that I would be very happy to see done.

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  • Brown Bear
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    There's lots of DC guys I'd rather see than Hawkman.

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  • MIB41
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    Hawkman would be a massive hit if they made it. I think it would be perfect as a Matty exclusive.

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