Any interest in a repro Aquaman vs The Great White Shark set?

[reevefan78]

Well you could have just said Yes, its difficult to match the blue but thank you for your thorough reply. I can see that your putting loads of effort into this, so I am sure this Shark is going to rock!

Clem,

Yes, it is difficult to match the blue, LOL......(since we really have nothing solid to match to). I blame my "thorough reply" on my background as an art instructor....... :-)

I'm glad I was able to clarify the reasons it's difficult to match the blue background on the original box though.

All of us involved are striving to make this Mego Shark repro project the very best we can and I am very fortunate to be working with some very talented and passionate individuals. Thanks for all the support and encouragement that you and everyone else following this thread has and continues to give us......I don't think anyone will be disappointed by the final product. More to follow soon.....stay tuned.

[clemso]

Clemso,

It is not a color correction issue. My designer friend and I have spoken over the phone about the blue background color. Personally I think the color was a bit too deep on the digital scans of "geoffdude's" original Aquashark box (too dark and too red of a blue) from what I saw on my computer monitor and so does he from what his monitor showed him. I think the color he used is a better blue but who really knows for sure as I'll do my best to explain below.

I tried to answer your question as best I could in my previous post where you quoted me (see below)....but in case I was not clear in my description I'll quote myself and do my best to explain a little further:

"The designer will match the blue background and wave patterns around the cello window as closely as he can to what he thinks the original box looks like from several different sources that I have provided for him. Without an actual box in hand to go by this will have to be approximate...but he has assured me it will look great when all is said and done. Even the high res scans are not 100% perfect color wise but he will make it aesthetically pleasing so hang tight."

In other words......nothing is final until it's final and even the colors on the scans can be inaccurate as I have found from doing some of my own scans from original Mego 8" figure boxes (my own collection) just last night.....and no matter what it looks like in digital form what really matters is how the colors look in the print out. Colors do not replicate 100% accurately from what a computer monitor shows in the digital file because you're dealing with colored light on a computer monitor vs. dyes/inks in printed form.

This is the one drawback from posting images online....every monitor is calibrated differently so what you are seeing is not necessarily what I am seeing and vice versa. I don't want people thinking that these "in-progress" images are final images.......they are simply "in-progress" screen shots and what matters is the type of board used to print on (how it absorbs the ink) and the color of the printed "proof". If colors need adjusting then my designer friend will make the necessary adjustments until the print is aesthetically perfect. Without the actual box in the hands of the printer he's "flying blind" with nothing but a digital file (a second generation image) to work from that most likely has shifted in color from the original anyway.

Which leads me to my next point....the only way to be 100% accurate to the printing of the original box is for the designer/printer to have an original box in hand and adjust the printed proof until the print colors look exactly like the original box. But even so the box today has aged over 33 years so the colors are most likely not 100% accurate to the way they were in 1978 when the boxes were newly printed and rolled off the production lines. There's just no way to be 100% accurate to the colors of the original box from 1978 (colors may have faded a bit and cardboard does yellow over time unless it's archival quality - acid free - which Mego boxes were not) that will affect the printed color with age) when it was new so there will be a little bit of guess work on the part of the designer for color matching, but have faith....my friend has printed every mego 8" WGSH box from either his own personal collection or someone else that has sent him original boxes to scan. He is very aware of the colors that Mego made use of for the majority of their Superhero figure/sets lines and he will do his dead level best to make the colors look the best they can for the repro box.

I hope that helps clarify things a bit.

More to follow. Stay tuned.

Well you could have just said Yes, its difficult to match the blue but thank you for your thorough reply. I can see that your putting loads of effort into this, so I am sure this Shark is going to rock!

[reevefan78]

Exploded box design - complements of Greg Jensen (AKA dengar)

Hey guys,

Here's a pic of the basic box design courtesy of Greg Jensen (AKA "dengar" on Ebay and my designer friend on this repro box). "Geoffdude" has been a Godsend in giving me and Greg access to scans of his original "Aquashark" box set. Greg is doing a "fin-tastic" job so far.....just keep in mind these are temporary placement templates and do not represent the final box design. This is what Greg has so far for the exploded box layout prior to any detail begin added. BTW.....the wave pattern that surrounds the cello window (window is red....this will be the cut out area like the original with an acetate window put in it's place) is accurate to the original and created directly from "Geoffdude's original box scans.

I've asked "Geoffdude" to send me (and Greg) pantone color numbers (http://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/index.aspx) that he (Geoffdude) will match to the colors on his original box to give Greg an idea of exactly what colors he (Greg) is trying to match in the final print proof for this repro box......and as usual "Geoffdude" is all too happy to help out.....what swell guys you both are - Geoff and Greg!


Enjoy.....more to follow soon....stay tuned!

Exploded (flattened) "Aquashark" box design by Greg Jensen


"Geoffdude's" Original Mego Aquaman VS The Great White Shark set

[reevefan78]

looking great. can't believe the amount of time and effort you are putting into this. Cannot wait to see some production samples

An intermediate cast from the "trash mold" is on it's way......I got this email message from my mold maker friend yesterday afternoon (Feb. 28):

"Still on schedule to make the resin Aquashark Tomorrow or Thursday."

I will ask him to take a pic of the copy prior to and after the necessary adjustments are made (i.e. logo replacement, walling off the back of the throat, etc.) before making the final mold and production casts. Stay tuned...more to follow soon.

[Nostalgiabuff]

looking great. can't believe the amount of time and effort you are putting into this. Cannot wait to see some production samples

[reevefan78]

Thanks for posting a scan, looks like terrific progress. Question. I notice that the blue on the touched up scan does not match the original. Are you having problems with color correction?

Clemso,

It is not a color correction issue. My designer friend and I have spoken over the phone about the blue background color. Personally I think the color was a bit too deep on the digital scans of "geoffdude's" original Aquashark box (too dark and too red of a blue) from what I saw on my computer monitor and so does he from what his monitor showed him. I think the color he used is a better blue but who really knows for sure as I'll do my best to explain below.

I tried to answer your question as best I could in my previous post where you quoted me (see below)....but in case I was not clear in my description I'll quote myself and do my best to explain a little further:

"The designer will match the blue background and wave patterns around the cello window as closely as he can to what he thinks the original box looks like from several different sources that I have provided for him. Without an actual box in hand to go by this will have to be approximate...but he has assured me it will look great when all is said and done. Even the high res scans are not 100% perfect color wise but he will make it aesthetically pleasing so hang tight."

In other words......nothing is final until it's final and even the colors on the scans can be inaccurate as I have found from doing some of my own scans from original Mego 8" figure boxes (my own collection) just last night.....and no matter what it looks like in digital form what really matters is how the colors look in the print out. Colors do not replicate 100% accurately from what a computer monitor shows in the digital file because you're dealing with colored light on a computer monitor vs. dyes/inks in printed form.

This is the one drawback from posting images online....every monitor is calibrated differently so what you are seeing is not necessarily what I am seeing and vice versa. I don't want people thinking that these "in-progress" images are final images.......they are simply "in-progress" screen shots and what matters is the type of board used to print on (how it absorbs the ink) and the color of the printed "proof". If colors need adjusting then my designer friend will make the necessary adjustments until the print is aesthetically perfect. Without the actual box in the hands of the printer he's "flying blind" with nothing but a digital file (a second generation image) to work from that most likely has shifted in color from the original anyway.

Which leads me to my next point....the only way to be 100% accurate to the printing of the original box is for the designer/printer to have an original box in hand and adjust the printed proof until the print colors look exactly like the original box. But even so the box today has aged over 33 years so the colors are most likely not 100% accurate to the way they were in 1978 when the boxes were newly printed and rolled off the production lines. There's just no way to be 100% accurate to the colors of the original box from 1978 (colors may have faded a bit and cardboard does yellow over time unless it's archival quality - acid free - which Mego boxes were not) that will affect the printed color with age) when it was new so there will be a little bit of guess work on the part of the designer for color matching, but have faith....my friend has printed every mego 8" WGSH box from either his own personal collection or someone else that has sent him original boxes to scan. He is very aware of the colors that Mego made use of for the majority of their Superhero figure/sets lines and he will do his dead level best to make the colors look the best they can for the repro box.

I hope that helps clarify things a bit.

More to follow. Stay tuned.

[Mikey]

Thanks Thomas,

I had padded post counts in the past that our previous Mego Moderator warned me twice time in our 1st old forum.

Then I noticed this forum doesn't warns other member(s) and me, I guess I go ahead and post as much I like.

And Frankly,

I think I'm wrong about you. Sorry about that.

Pat, forget about the old days.

It's not like that anymore

It's much better

reevefan78 is not padding posts ...

Padding post is for making a post count higher.

reevefan78 don't care about post count

He's just updating and everyone likes it

So it's all good

[Mr Mego]

Nevermind Pat, you post as much as you like

Thanks Thomas,

I had padded post counts in the past that our previous Mego Moderator warned me twice time in our 1st old forum.

Then I noticed this forum doesn't warns other member(s) and me, I guess I go ahead and post as much I like.

And Kris,

I think I'm wrong about you. Sorry about that.

[clemso]

Hello all,

Okay, several of you have asked for photos so here's a sneak peak at the "Aquashark" repro box side panels in progress. The illustration shown below appears on both side panels on the original box so only one needed to be scanned and tweaked.....the repro box will make use of the illustration on both side panels like the original box has.

The original panel is on the right and the tweaked panel in progress is on the left. Please keep in mind that this is not the final panel on the left but an in progress screen shot so there is still work to be done on it to make it perfect.....i.e. making the blue background consistent behind the closed letter forms on the Mego symbol as well as the phrase that begins with, 'Watch the "huge jaws" open whenever.......'

The designer will match the blue background and wave patterns around the cello window as closely as he can to what he thinks the original box looks like from several different sources that I have provided for him. Without an actual box in hand to go by this will have to be approximate...but he has assured me it will look great when all is said and done. Even the high res scans are not 100% perfect color wise but he will make it aesthetically pleasing so hang tight.

I will show as much as I can without divulging too much info that both the mold maker and the designer would rather keep private.

More to follow soon. Stay tuned.

P.S. The in progress panel on the left includes the white flap that tucks inside the bottom left and right sides of the box when the box is closed.

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...27_posting.jpg

Thanks for posting a scan, looks like terrific progress. Question. I notice that the blue on the touched up scan does not match the original. Are you having problems with color correction?

[PNGwynne]

Great progress--thanks for keeping us updated!

[Meule]

Pat,

Not sure what you mean there Pal.....unless you're trying to pull my leg, LOL

As for the near double posts....just wanted to make sure both sections were covered individually and with equal attention since I got updates from both on the same day....the mold maker's progress as well as the box designer's progress. But yeah....in the future I'll just update with a single post.......okay, Buddy?

Much more to follow.....stay tuned!

Nevermind Pat, you post as much as you like

[geoffdude]

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[reevefan78]

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geoffdude

No way Geoff! You're "the MAN"! Without you we wouldn't have those sweet scans of your Mego Aquashark "treasure set"! My team and I owe you a great deal of gratitude for all that you've contributed to what we hope will be one of the best Repro Mego items ever made. I can't thank you enough Bro!

[geoffdude]

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geoffdude

[reevefan78]

Frankly, you've been double posts at near same time are not allowed.

Next time edit your post, we'll appreciate it.

Pat,

Not sure what you mean there Pal.....unless you're trying to pull my leg, LOL

As for the near double posts....just wanted to make sure both sections were covered individually and with equal attention since I got updates from both on the same day....the mold maker's progress as well as the box designer's progress. But yeah....in the future I'll just update with a single post.......okay, Buddy?

Much more to follow.....stay tuned!