DC Universe Wave 3 - MC review link and discussion (hopefully!)

[The Toyroom]

Killer Moth? I've got to have that figure!

http://74.52.193.82/events/main.php?g2_itemId=111433

[CaptainTrenchcoat]

All I want to know is which one comes with Grundy's head? He's nine inches tall.

Nightwing is packed with the Grundy head and torso. Would have thought they would have packed Robin due to the size. And yes, Atom Smasher is a CnC figure. Glad to see a JSA member make an appearance. Really want Dr Fate and the GA Sandman. Who am I kidding, I am sure I will buy every JSA figure they make. lol

[Raydeen1]

They all look great. I definitely want the Robin with the new uniform. I'd also like a DG Robin to have them both stand beside Batman in my display so I'm hoping they make one.

HawkMan is badass. I need that one for sure
Shazam. I wish they'd made his triming either gold OR yellow. Not both so I may repaint him but he's must have for sure.
Superman. I just like the look of these figures and SUpes looks pretty nice.
GL
Flash and possibly KF too.
And Mr. Miracle looks pretty sweet.

Of course, the Riddler looks pretty sweet as well. I'd like to see more of this line. Green Arrow for sure!! BatGirl! Yep. I like these and I prefer cloth capes and uniforms but these are quite nice. I HATE the hips though. My Bats stands funny.

[BlackKnight]

Killer Moth? I've got to have that figure!

http://74.52.193.82/events/main.php?g2_itemId=111433

Thats the one I couldn't remember last night,.. unbelievable that they made that character.

Whats next ? Calanderman ?

& Yes... Kid Flash looks great too.

[ScottA]

This line has so much potential. I hope we see all of these figures they have planned. Need to see more gals - Poison Ivy, Black Canary. Good luck to us all in finding them.

[starsky]

now if they could just start producing them in greater quantities!!!

[huedell]

Thats the one I couldn't remember last night,.. unbelievable that they made that character.

Whats next ? Calanderman ?

Makes sense they went with KILLER MOTH before
other lower tier Bat-villains, as KM's connection to BATGIRL
will always be huge as he was there in her origin issue.

Not that they wouldn't make Calendar Man or Signal Man or whoever
EVENTUALLY (wouldn't THAT be great) but, I can see why they went
with KM so early in comparison.

[BlackKnight]

Hue,...

Killer Moth Hasn't been Relevent for Over 30 Yrs. So,.. His figure Doesn't make Sense at all. If It's Not Short Packed,.. it will be a PegWarmer. There is No Child today Who Even Know or Cares About that Character. Even with the Camio in Booster Gold Last Month. If The Figure Didn't come With a BAF Piece,.. the only people that would buy are us Collectors.


BTW.. I think He is very cool,.. & Hope to get one.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I know a guy who is the world's biggest Killer Moth fan. He must be elated about this, esp. since DC Direct has yet to give us one. Killer Moth appeared on the Teen Titans animated series, but they never made figure of him (I think they did make one of those lil' pvc figures though). His mutated form was featured in "The Batman" figure line.

Chris

[huedell]

Hue,...

Killer Moth Hasn't been Relevent for Over 30 Yrs. So,.. His figure Doesn't make Sense at all. If It's Not Short Packed,.. it will be a PegWarmer. There is No Child today Who Even Know or Cares About that Character. Even with the Camio in Booster Gold Last Month. If The Figure Didn't come With a BAF Piece,.. the only people that would buy are us Collectors.

I disagree.

KILLER MOTH was in THE BATMAN show wasn't he?

They even made a figure of him for that line if I remember correctly.

Even so...regardless of THAT point....

And not to be too redundant here (as I mentioned this above already),
but KM's mere HISTORICAL VALUE----i.e. his large part of
BATGIRL's first appearance has cemented KILLER MOTH as a more important
lower-tier bad guy in the total DCU history.

And THAT was the point of my first post on this.....it's really just
the way it is, and not a debatable point.

[BlackKnight]

Killer Moth's Look On the New Batman Cartoon,.. is So not what the Classic's Toy is,.. & Lost all of What the Character is and Was.

If you wanna Go a " lower-tier'' Batman Villian,.. a Mad Hatter or Even DeadShot have more Significant Value today.

But even to throw Killer Moth in a Line,.. Where Martian ManHunter, Doctor Fate, PowerGirl & Green Arrow are not even a part of yet,.. seems alittle Out there.

[huedell]

Killer Moth's Look On the New Batman Cartoon,.. is So not what the Classic's Toy is,.. & Lost all of What the Character is and Was.

Yes...I actually got my education on this on a (get this) "KILLER MOTH
TRIBUTE" SITE

Also, I was following you regarding the "reworked image" but I was
just focusing more on his "fixed legacy" in the Bat-world/DCU in
talking about what made KM special....which leads me to this...

If you wanna Go a " lower-tier'' Batman Villian,.. a Mad Hatter or
Even DeadShot have more Significant Value today.

I'm not devaluing Hatter or Deadshot...in fact I'd agree they are more
popular than KM...and with that in mind, I was actually comparing KM
to even LOWER tier Silver Age guys like Calendar Man (as mentioned)
and maybe Signal Man, Cavalier or The Spook.

Regardless---just as I said above (twice! ha-ha) that "Batgirl connection"
is something none of the littler Bat-baddies will ever have----and at this
point----the whole "he's so entirely wacky that he's cool" aspect seems
to be KILLER MOTH's mantle---and his alone. That also works in his favor.

But even to throw Killer Moth in a Line,.. Where Martian
ManHunter, Doctor Fate, PowerGirl & Green Arrow are not even a part of
yet,.. seems alittle Out there.

Ya don't say?

[The Toyroom]

Killer Moth may not be relevant in today's Gotham City...in fact, writer's over the years have seemed to go out of their way to showcase how "un-cool" the Moth is by today's standards. It got to the point that they had to "badden" him up by turing him into Charaxes.

BUT...I think Killer Moth still has a lot of Silver Age Geek Fanboys (like myself) that love the character. Maybe it's the bizarre costume...or how he was the original Anti-Batman...or maybe it's that he represents a simpler, goofier time. Whatever the case, a lot of those fans are in the industry today...and that's why he keeps popping up in cartoons and now in an action figure line.

I say it's about freakin' time...true, there are other characters who haven't made the cut yet for the DC Universe line, but the ones that BK mentioned HAVE been parts of other lines. With the Moth, that's not the case. It's his first ever action figure in his most famous form so I think he may be harder to track down than people may suspect. In a double-edged sword sorta way I hope I'm wrong because I want to find one but I also hope I'm right to prove there are people out there that like the character.

And as I've said before...there are no "bad" characters, just characters that are written badly. Take BK's boy Deadshot for example....a one-off Bat-villain AGES ago until he was made interesting during the Englehart/Rogers run on "Detective" in the 70s. The character lay dormant after that, popping up as a background villain whenever the Bat-Villains would have a pow-wow or escape. He became relevant again when he was tagged to join the Suicide Squad. But once again, he became a nobody...until Gail Simone tapped him for the Secret Six (his best interpretation to date IMO BTW).

[huedell]

BUT...I think Killer Moth still has a lot of Silver Age Geek Fanboys (like myself) that love the character....a lot of those fans are in the industry
today...and that's why he keeps popping up in cartoons and now in an
action figure line.

I came THIS close to stating that "fans in the industry" sentiment^^^^.
I gotta believe that is what is happening.

I also concur about the "original anti-Batman" value...KILLER MOTH
is more "Batmany" than that Bizarro Batman (Batzarro?) will ever be.

[Raydeen1]

I want a Killer Moth. I'm kind of shocked they made a classic version of him. They should make his partner too just so there'd be a proper set but I don't know that I'd shell out money for a Cavalier figure. ;P

*Edited because my keyboard is dying and some letters don't type unless I really pound on the keys.