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  • Liu Bei
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    Originally posted by LonnieFisher
    Well, the latest news about the Indy franchise is not making it look very good for the movie. The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles is being changed. Old man Indy has been removed from the streaming shows. No longer narrating the episodes. Take that as you will...
    Not only was old Indy removed, as has already been mentioned, but you you also haven't been able (legally) to get a copy of the original Young Indy series for decades. George went back and edited the episodes into two hour movies, often combining episodes that have no relationship with each other.

    Cultural vandalization is bad enough when others do it, but when you have creators doing it to their own work, as George did with the OT Star Wars Trilogy and Young Indy, it's especially heartbreaking. I have never once seen a director's cut of a film that was better than the original theatrical version. I wish directors and studios would just let our cultural heritage be passed on to future generations without trying to "improve" it. And if you do have to butcher it, please allow both versions to exist, instead of hiding the originals away somewhere in a vault like Star Wars or Young Indy.

    I love George, but it's an unforgivable sin.

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  • Falstaff13
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    Temple of Doom is often credited with being the reason (maybe the final straw) for the PG-13 rating being implemented.

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  • Werewolf
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    Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
    , tonally I think Crystal Skull fits into the franchise better than the mean-spirited and nasty Temple of Doom.
    I really liked Temple of Doom. But I do think it would have been better if they had toned it down to a bit. Released it as a PG movie instead of pushing the envelope to PG-13.

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  • Bruce Banner
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    My favourite Indy movies are Raiders and Temple of Doom.
    I know a lot of people love Last Crusade, but I always found it lacklustre, like a "lite" version of an Indiana Jones movie.

    Temple of Doom has a great story and it moves at a relentless pace. It's a great film and the dark theme really works. However, some of the scenes which were cut for timing/pacing should have remained in the movie for the sake of coherence, such as the scene where Indy puts some planks over the lava pit to allow the slave children to escape the Thuggee mines. The planks then catch fire preventing Indy, Willie and Shorty from escaping via the same route.

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  • drquest
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    Temple of Doom was almost a horror movie, and had a different tone than Raiders. But I've said this before, the cold opening sequence is one of my favorite scenes of all time. There's so much packed in just a few minutes. So much backstory was tossed at the screen with no explanation and just made for a great setup. I wanted to see the story of Nurhachi and how that all went down, and Indy's friend that(Spoiler) died within those few minutes as well.

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  • Earth 2 Chris
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    ^I didn't realize they had ever cut them. I have mixed feelings about that show. I wanted to like it, but the episodes with really young Indy were, to my teenage mind, very boring and overly educational without being entertaining. I liked the teen Indy episodes well enough. I thought Old Indy was probably a bit too goofy and boxing them in, but I enjoyed the one-off appearance of Ford, of course.

    I liked Crystal Skull well enough. Having rewatched the movies again recently, tonally I think Crystal Skull fits into the franchise better than the mean-spirited and nasty Temple of Doom. Yes, Crystal Skull has a few too many goofy indulgences, but Temple of Doom almost seems to be from a knock-off Indy movie. I know I'm not the first person to say that.

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  • Werewolf
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    Those were cut way back in 99. The VHS releases don't even have them.

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  • Nostalgiabuff
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    yeah, old man Indy was cut out decades ago

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  • Bruce Banner
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    Originally posted by LonnieFisher
    Well, the latest news about the Indy franchise is not making it look very good for the movie. The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles is being changed. Old man Indy has been removed from the streaming shows. No longer narrating the episodes. Take that as you will...
    The removal of the old Indy framing sequences/narrations happened years ago, for the home video releases of the series, if I remember correctly.
    It's not a recent change.

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  • LonnieFisher
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    Well, the latest news about the Indy franchise is not making it look very good for the movie. The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles is being changed. Old man Indy has been removed from the streaming shows. No longer narrating the episodes. Take that as you will...

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  • Liu Bei
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    Originally posted by YoungOnce
    Man I am so pumped for this. Put me in that camp of being fine with Crystal Skull too.

    I think it's worst fault was that the CGI slightly changed the vibe. There's just something about practical effects and real sets that creates its own vibe.

    And too, enabled by the ability granted by CGI, we got scenes like the "Tarzan and the monkeys" scene and all the spaceship, other-dimension stuff at the end.

    So far, a bad Indian Jones movie is still better than 90% of everything else.
    Don’t get your hopes up. What they do to Indy in this one will make their treatment of Luke, Han, and Leia in Disney’s Star Wars sequels look respectful by comparison.

    The cultural vandals at Disney are going to top even themselves with this one. Sadly, I will not be seeing this. For me, there will only ever be three Indiana Jones films.

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  • YoungOnce
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    Man I am so pumped for this. Put me in that camp of being fine with Crystal Skull too.

    I think it's worst fault was that the CGI slightly changed the vibe. There's just something about practical effects and real sets that creates its own vibe.

    And too, enabled by the ability granted by CGI, we got scenes like the "Tarzan and the monkeys" scene and all the spaceship, other-dimension stuff at the end.

    So far, a bad Indian Jones movie is still better than 90% of everything else.

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  • Werewolf
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    Originally posted by Nostalgiabuff
    i know a lot of people hate Crystal Skull, but i always loved it, goofy parts and all.
    I have no problem with Crystal Skull and I loved the return of Marion.

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  • drquest
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    Crystal Skull really didn't do the franchise any favors, hope this can be good....
    Last edited by drquest; Dec 5, '22, 6:18 PM.

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  • Nostalgiabuff
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    i think it looks fantastic. the de-aged Indy in the flashback looked pretty damn good. not so sure i like the title, though maybe that will change once i know what the Dial is. i know a lot of people hate Crystal Skull, but i always loved it, goofy parts and all. i do hope that Dial is better received though so he goes out on a high note

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