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  • Brue
    User without title
    • Sep 29, 2005
    • 4241

    #76
    Originally posted by Bruce Banner
    That one I posted was from the 80s, so the Green Cross robot was certainly inspired by Artoo.
    WOW! I would've thought he wouldn't need the PSAs after Star Wars.

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    • huedell
      Museum Ball Eater
      • Dec 31, 2003
      • 11069

      #77
      Originally posted by Brue
      WOW! I would've thought he wouldn't need the PSAs after Star Wars.
      Need them?

      Here's my guess... it was likely a job he took that has some wiggle-room for "lowering himself" because its a "safety" thing for the public good... and, like, a government sponsored thing... ya know?

      That said... Prowse is a bodybuilder turned actor, correct?

      If that's the case, then only one man has ever made me feel there's good money in that... and his name is not Lou.... and Prowse doesn't even have the charisma of a Lou.

      Guess what I'm saying is... regardless of what the money/career dynamic of a PSA spokesman is... Prowse seems like the type of actor who'd have to accept some pretty low-end work throughout his career. Not that I know that for sure, and not that there's anything wrong with that if I was right.
      "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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      • Bruce Banner
        HULK SMASH!
        • Apr 3, 2010
        • 4335

        #78
        He continued doing it because he considered it a worthy cause and road safety was a passion of his. The Green Cross Code Campaign was what he received his MBE for.


        In Prowse's own words:

        The 14 years I spent as the face of the government’s road safety campaign – as the Green Cross Man – is the best job I’ve ever had, including my Star Wars role, and by far my proudest achievement. When the campaign started in the mid-70s, there were 40,000 children every year who became road accident casualties – a terrible statistic which needed to be addressed, which was why the Green Cross Man was created.

        During that time we made a number of road safety films that were regularly shown on the telly but we also needed to get the message across to schoolchildren, which is why between 1976 and 1980, I travelled around the UK, often visiting up to three schools a day, five days a week. It was a busy few years.

        I loved going round the schools talking to the children and educating them on “STOP, LOOK, LISTEN and THINK” – four words I know many people still fondly remember, even if they don’t apply it. And by the end of the campaign the number of children involved in road traffic accidents had been halved, down to 20,000. It’s been estimated that the code saved as many as 250,000 children from being injured or killed on our roads.

        Many people will know me for being the ultimate screen villain, Star Wars’ Darth Vader. But being a “goodie goodie” and heading up the Green Cross Code campaign, helping to save thousands of lives has always been the ultimate honour. Road safety is a real passion for me.
        PUNY HUMANS!

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        • Earth 2 Chris
          Verbose Member
          • Mar 7, 2004
          • 32531

          #79
          20 years ago David Prowse was a guest at the comic shop I worked at, and I was his gopher for those days. Despite all the stories you hear around the web, he was very pleasant, and answered questions about ALL of his work, and yes, even then, he told us he was most proud of his Green Cross Man work.

          As for the prequels...I don't hate them with every fiber of my being like some, but yeah... Lucas forgot what made Star Wars "Star Wars". Centering the whole thing around political intrigue and trade agreements was a mistake right out of the gate. Good actors are given bad dialog and even worse direction, so they can't work with that bad dialog. And there's no wiseacre character like Han Solo to point out how silly all of this is. The movies take themselves WAY TOO seriously for the most part, and the only humor is provided by the way too young Anakin and heaven help us, Jar Jar.

          I don't mind watching them with the kids, but they aren't something I'm going to revisit often on my own.

          Chris
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          • palitoy
            live. laugh. lisa needs braces
            • Jun 16, 2001
            • 59239

            #80
            He was rude to me and my girlfriend once but even i couldn't help but feel bad for him after watching the documentary about him. It's super crappy he's banned from celebration.
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            • Klosterheim
              Persistent Member
              • Mar 23, 2013
              • 1121

              #81
              I watched a video interview on youtube, and George Lucas said Star Wars is about father & son and dysfunctional family. He said that it's a space opera, but it really is a soap opera.

              So I guess, Intergalactic Civil War and Trade Agreements are just built around that focus, as the background and setting. The heart of the story is family.

              I guess the spaceships, planets and creatures work well because the audience becomes emotionally involved with the main characters.

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              • LonnieFisher
                Eloquent Member
                • Jan 19, 2008
                • 10836

                #82
                Personally, I think all the hate come from the fact that the movies really suck.

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                • Brue
                  User without title
                  • Sep 29, 2005
                  • 4241

                  #83
                  Originally posted by LonnieFisher
                  Personally, I think all the hate come from the fact that the movies really suck.
                  Well there's that.

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                  • Spyweb007
                    Persistent Member
                    • Apr 18, 2006
                    • 1449

                    #84
                    The prequels may not be the best Star Wars movies, but I think they are better than most other Sci-Fi movies that came out around the same time. Star Wars expectations are hard to live up to. I like them well enough, but they do have flaws that are not easy to overlook.

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                    • fallensaviour
                      Talkative Member
                      • Aug 28, 2006
                      • 5620

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Spyweb007
                      The prequels may not be the best Star Wars movies, but I think they are better than most other Sci-Fi movies that came out around the same time.
                      Not sure how you can even say that....lol
                      Star Wars episode I -1999
                      The matrix

                      Star Wars episode II - 2002
                      28 days later
                      Star Trek nemesis
                      Men in black II
                      Minority report
                      Eight legged freaks
                      Signs

                      Star Wars episode III - 2005
                      Serenity

                      The reason they stink is also partly due to the fact that there were way better sci fI films out the same year....lol
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                      • Mikey
                        Verbose Member
                        • Aug 9, 2001
                        • 47243

                        #86
                        I think it comes down to the Prequels being made to satisfy a particular classic movie audience and perhaps rake in their children as well.

                        The originals (specifically the first movie) was made to be just a generic fun "space movie" for everyone that walked in the theatre.

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                        • Nostalgiabuff
                          Muddling through
                          • Oct 4, 2008
                          • 11300

                          #87
                          the biggest problem was Lucas let his ego take over and he had to control all aspects of production. he should have just written the story and then produced but let others write the screen play and direct

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                          • Brue
                            User without title
                            • Sep 29, 2005
                            • 4241

                            #88
                            Hmm. I would have thought other sci for films concurrent with the prequels would have been better. Now reading the list you gave - I see only one I liked (Matrix), Serenity was decent, but really just a made TV movie.

                            Originally posted by fallensaviour
                            Not sure how you can even say that....lol
                            Star Wars episode I -1999
                            The matrix

                            Star Wars episode II - 2002
                            28 days later
                            Star Trek nemesis
                            Men in black II
                            Minority report
                            Eight legged freaks
                            Signs

                            Star Wars episode III - 2005
                            Serenity

                            The reason they stink is also partly due to the fact that there were way better sci fI films out the same year....lol

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                            • huedell
                              Museum Ball Eater
                              • Dec 31, 2003
                              • 11069

                              #89
                              Originally posted by fallensaviour
                              The reason they stink is also partly due to the fact that there were way better sci fI films out the same year....lol
                              Let's see reasons why a film of the quality of Independence Day struck so hard, and so deep as if it was New Hope itself for five hundred, Alex!
                              "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                              • huedell
                                Museum Ball Eater
                                • Dec 31, 2003
                                • 11069

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Spyweb007
                                The prequels may not be the best Star Wars movies,
                                But they ARE "Star Wars" movies, which brings us to:

                                Originally posted by Mikey
                                I think it comes down to the Prequels being made to satisfy a particular classic movie audience and perhaps rake in their children as well.
                                Star Wars fans who will gobble up anything with lightsabers, John Williams score and an opening crawl (throw in a Yoda here or there as icing on the cake).
                                Last edited by huedell; Jan 16, '18, 7:43 AM. Reason: removed inapplicable part of posters post
                                "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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