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  • toothaction
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    Originally posted by Madcap70
    Let's be honest now all of the "Fanboys" NEVER wanted any prequel films made ...
    If I may speak for my entire generation, heh, I declare that the lot of us did indeed want prequels... in '86, '89 and '92! At the point that we learned that the first one would now and forevermore be known as the IVth episode, and that there were a few more stories to be told on the back nine, I'm comfortable in saying that, by '83, we were ALL expecting a steady diet of space drama for years to come. That said...

    What we got, some 15 years off schedule, was the most painful bait-and-switch in the history of dorkery! Heh. Me, I was spared some of the pain because my lifelong love of all things SW, midway through the cantina scene in the 'special' edition, had already died.


    Wheeee!

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  • Madcap70
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    Let's be honest now all of the "Fanboys" NEVER wanted any prequel films made just like those same "fanboys" Never wanted sequels made either because the OT was special (Which it is) but how long can that "Old fuzzy" go when you have to tell a story...On one hand you get people that are going to hate when you re-hash the OT and the other half that are going to hate because it's "different" from the OT even though it's still "Star Wars"....

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  • jwyblejr
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    Originally posted by sprytel
    Yes! I thought I was alone on this one... nice to hear someone else finds this annoying. Obi-Wan is supposed to be in hiding on Tatooine. Plus, Obi-Wan's outfit is nearly identical to what Owen Lars wears. It clearly is not some sort of Jedi uniform.

    And yet Anakin is wearing one at the end of Jedi too.

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  • EmergencyIan
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    I've never seen them. At the time, I saw the trailers and thought the looked terrible or dumb. I've just never had any interest in them.

    - Ian

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  • Brue
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    Originally posted by darklord1967



    ...Virtually EVERY negative criticism hurled against the prequel films (or now the sequel films ) was hurled at one time or the other against the original trilogy.
    No.

    After Star Wars criticism was non existent by fans. The only criticism was from movie critics who did not understand what had just been unleashed.

    Empire had LOTS of criticism on the Vader is Luke's father, but was soon accepted. It had some criticism of Luke and Lei's relationship, but really turned into tongue and cheek jokes. Otherwise it was loved then and overall

    ROTJ did suffer from criticism and Ewoks continued to be debated on their merits through today. But to say it held the same level of criticism as the Prequels is a reach at best.

    And even IF there was some criticism of the originals, as you say it has not continued. So either they were less criticized at first or at least over time lessen on criticism. Prequels began with broad criticism and even that has grown.

    It is nice to try to put the prequels in a better light, but it is simply disingenuous.

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  • sprytel
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    Originally posted by Brue
    Anther reason to hate them:

    Minor, but annoying.

    All the Jedi dress like they live in a desert.

    Obi-wan dressed like he lived on a desert in Star Wars because he lived in a desert.

    For some reason after that Lucas decided that was a Jedi outfit. Moron.
    Yes! I thought I was alone on this one... nice to hear someone else finds this annoying. Obi-Wan is supposed to be in hiding on Tatooine. Plus, Obi-Wan's outfit is nearly identical to what Owen Lars wears. It clearly is not some sort of Jedi uniform.

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  • Nostalgiabuff
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    well said DarkLord. that pretty much sums up my feelings as well, they were never going to recapture the magic for us because like the characters, "we" had also grown and moved on

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  • jwyblejr
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    Originally posted by darklord1967
    I'll keep my view on this simple:

    I have LOVED the STAR WARS Saga since I was a boy in the 1970's.

    I think the films are incredibly well-made, epic, exciting, and magical.

    When the Prequels came out, i went to see them as an almost 40 year old man.

    I DID NOT go in expecting to be made to feel the same way that I felt as a 10 year old with the OT.

    Therefore I enjoyed them thoroughly. Are they flawed? Of course! But then so were the original trilogy films.

    The sequel films?... Rogue One? Brilliant all. I am still thoroughly WOWED every time I go to see one of these films... and it is in a way that NO OTHER franchise has done.

    I thoroughly appreciate that these characters evolve and change in unexpected ways over the years. It makes them more believable and interesting to me than if they just stayed the same as when they were first introduced in 1977. Its one of the reasons why i love THE LAST JEDI so much.

    Virtually EVERY negative criticism hurled against the prequel films (or now the sequel films ) was hurled at one time or the other against the original trilogy.

    Especially against Return of the Jedi. There use to be sooooo much hate against the Ewoks. Now,it's like they are an afterthought.

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  • Hedji
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    ^ Good post!

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  • darklord1967
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    I'll keep my view on this simple:

    I have LOVED the STAR WARS Saga since I was a boy in the 1970's.

    I think the films are incredibly well-made, epic, exciting, and magical.

    When the Prequels came out, i went to see them as an almost 40 year old man.

    I DID NOT go in expecting to be made to feel the same way that I felt as a 10 year old with the OT.

    Therefore I enjoyed them thoroughly. Are they flawed? Of course! But then so were the original trilogy films.

    The sequel films?... Rogue One? Brilliant all. I am still thoroughly WOWED every time I go to see one of these films... and it is in a way that NO OTHER franchise has done.

    I thoroughly appreciate that these characters evolve and change in unexpected ways over the years. It makes them more believable and interesting to me than if they just stayed the same as when they were first introduced in 1977. Its one of the reasons why i love THE LAST JEDI so much.

    Virtually EVERY negative criticism hurled against the prequel films (or now the sequel films ) was hurled at one time or the other against the original trilogy.
    Last edited by darklord1967; Jan 20, '18, 9:59 PM.

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  • Brue
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    Anther reason to hate them:

    Minor, but annoying.

    All the Jedi dress like they live in a desert.

    Obi-wan dressed like he lived on a desert in Star Wars because he lived in a desert.

    For some reason after that Lucas decided that was a Jedi outfit. Moron.

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  • Brue
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    Originally posted by jwyblejr
    I'm trying to figure out where the hate came from. I've been watching fan reactions from 1999 on YouTube,everyone was gushing over the TPM. Somewhere along the way,came the hate.
    I saw it opening night. I thought it was bad opening night. No change here in opinion of the film.

    And as I said, I do remember lots of 10 year olds loving it in 1999. People born before 1980 hated it. I suppose by default people born in the 80's had mixed reviews.

    I have seen revisionist reviews of other films (Batman Forever cones to mind. After Batman and Robin was so terrible, people lowered opinion of its predecessor.)

    I watched the prequels with my 11 year old recently. I went in with the thought that I was too harsh and maybe they are good. I painted a positive picture for my daughter.

    They are still horrible.

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  • jwyblejr
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    I'm trying to figure out where the hate came from. I've been watching fan reactions from 1999 on YouTube,everyone was gushing over the TPM. Somewhere along the way,came the hate.

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  • acrovader
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    I liked the prequels, flawed as they are, maybe more so than the Disney movies. Revenge of the Sith is the best of the 3, and Attack of the Clones had some good stuff (and to a lesser degree, The Phantom Menace). Certainly, the prequels were much more visually rich than the rather dull Disney films.

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  • PNGwynne
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    I liked Watchmen--both comic and film. I felt the film actually improved some elements of the comic. I regret though, for both the original and the adaptation, how Watchmen influenced more mainstream comics and superhero film.

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