Jodie Whittaker IS the Thirteenth Doctor

[Gorn Captain]

I didn't make it through the last GB. Life's too short and the "jokes" just didn't work at all.

[palitoy]

While I don't agree with it being a good movie ( I was actually rooting for it to be good), I do agree that most Fandom for the series is due to the cartoon being excellent.

[Werewolf]

I don't know ANYBODY that ever said Ghostbusters 2016 was impressive in any way

It was a good movie. It was the best GB movie that could have been done given the circumstances. GB3 was never, ever, EVER going to happen. A straight remake wouldn't work. People trying to impersonate Bill Murray, Ramis, etc. would have been terrible. New unrelated characters just using the classic characters names Egon, Ray, etc. would have also sucked.

Ghostbusters 2016 didn't kill the franchise. Ghostbusters 2 did that in 89.

Unpopular opinion: The Real ghostbusters animated series was better than the movies.

[Mikey]

For Ghostbusters 2016 it says ……..

Critics Consensus: Ghostbusters does an impressive job of standing on its own as a freewheeling, marvelously cast supernatural comedy -- even if it can't help but pale somewhat in comparison with the classic original.

I don't know ANYBODY that ever said Ghostbusters 2016 was impressive in any way

[palitoy]

One is critical reviews, the other is public, it's usually discordant because whenever the internet can manipulate something to either a) "Crush something they don't like" or b) "Bloviate over something they over aggrandize", they will! RT has gotten lots of flack over this over the years and it's actually been caught fudging numbers in important, life altering matters like "Marvel Vs DC" movies.

I don't agree with either score BTW, critical reviewers are seriously ignoring some misfires and problems and well, the fan base isn't being properly represented either.

[Mikey]

Was never on Rotten Tomatoes until now.

Why is there 2 scores

It looks like one score is high and the review acts like its the best show ever made --

The other score says 25%

I thought Tomatoes was just audience reviews and ratings ?

[palitoy]

Rotten Tomatoes is hardly empirical data, in fact, I think it has no relevance anymore. Even though I am personally critical of the new direction, I know more than a dozen people in my circle who genuinely enjoyed the new season. I don't join their discussions because I don't want to rain on their joy but from what I've observed, the results are pretty mixed in the community.

[LonnieFisher]

Rotten tomatoes has the audience score at 25 percent. It drops more every day it seems.

[LonnieFisher]

It seems not very many people liked the new season. It has such a high score from the critics, but a super low number from the audience. Critics are a total joke...

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/doctor_who/s11/

[Gorn Captain]

would that be as if her hearts aren't into it?

Well, at least one of them isn't!

[rche]

My first choice for a female Doctor would have been Zoe Wanamaker.
I know, she's older, but she has a quirky personality, can switch from sweet to grumpy in a heartbeat, and she has that "spark" that the Doctor needs.
I'm really missing that in Whittaker. All we got so far is a "frowny face", as if her heart isn't in it...

would that be as if her hearts aren't into it?

[Gorn Captain]

My first choice for a female Doctor would have been Zoe Wanamaker.
I know, she's older, but she has a quirky personality, can switch from sweet to grumpy in a heartbeat, and she has that "spark" that the Doctor needs.
I'm really missing that in Whittaker. All we got so far is a "frowny face", as if her heart isn't in it...

[johnnystorm]

Oh, for sure, Graham has been the most complete of the main cast. It would seem that all the writers were comfortable with him and thus he became an everyman focal point, to the detriment of all others. There really only needs to be two companions here. Either of the others at this point could go, I don't care they're both so similar it doesn't matter.

[palitoy]

I think they've just gone overboard trying to make the new Doctor a "fun upbeat" character, from the trendy Gap outfit to the cool fun Tardis with cookie dispenser...she would be so much better swrved as a stronger, more authoriative figure. More of a professorial or teacher image than a cool buddy.

Well, I think she could have been both, it's just feel she never got the proper time to develop.

That's why we all seem to like Graham so much, we developed empathy for him in the pilot, watched him mourn, saw him become a better man. He's had the "Joeseph Campbell Heroes Journey" this season, not the Doctor.

That's a strange choice for a series named after it's main character.

[LonnieFisher]

The finale did not impress me. A poor villain who did not deserve a return. And sorry, I couldn't get over seeing Mrs. Hughes from Downton Abbey in alien makeup. And I realize Phyllis Logan is a good actress (not that you could tell from the crappy part she was given). Just took me right out of the show.

The last few shows have focused on Graham, who is most assuredly the strongest character on the show. Stronger and better characterized than The Doctor. Which is sad. And also sad is I get the feeling he'll be the first companion to exit, leaving three cyphers in the Tardis. I think they've just gone overboard trying to make the new Doctor a "fun upbeat" character, from the trendy Gap outfit to the cool fun Tardis with cookie dispenser...she would be so much better swrved as a stronger, more authoriative figure. More of a professorial or teacher image than a cool buddy.

Maybe Graham should have been the Doctor.