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  • Thor
    Thunder God
    • Dec 17, 2009
    • 679

    #31
    Back in the 90's Lucas apparently lied and said that the EU books were canon (great way to draw in fans). Years later he changed his tune when the prequels came out. Some of the EU storylines (not all) are better than any of the stuff that Lucas cranked out recently imo. At one time the games were considered canon too but I guess Disney nixed that.
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    • Blue Meanie
      Talkative Member
      • Jun 23, 2001
      • 8706

      #32
      So The Big Black Box remastered Laserdisc set is what then?? It's not the original cut? IMHO the Black Box LD set is THE definitive set:



      Best sound and picture. They even talk about it on this site:




      I am a bit confused as to why the Black Box wouldn't be the original cut. Can someone explain? Thanks.
      "When not too many people can see we're all the same
      And because of all their tears,
      Their eyes can't hope to see
      The beauty that surrounds them
      Isn't it a pity".

      - "Isn't It A Pity"
      By George Harrison


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      • WannabeMego
        Made in the USA
        • May 2, 2003
        • 2170

        #33
        Originally posted by Dave Mc
        Lucas has always made it up in the moment. He acts like he always had a grand plan, but that's just to make himself more awesome in his own eyes. He has contradicted himself in interviews over the years so often it's not even funny.
        Sounds like the Paul McCartney of Film
        Everyone is Entitled to MY Opinion...Your's, not so much!

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        • Blue Meanie
          Talkative Member
          • Jun 23, 2001
          • 8706

          #34
          Originally posted by WannabeMego
          Sounds like the Paul McCartney of Film
          Very Funny
          "When not too many people can see we're all the same
          And because of all their tears,
          Their eyes can't hope to see
          The beauty that surrounds them
          Isn't it a pity".

          - "Isn't It A Pity"
          By George Harrison


          My Good Buyers/Sellers/Traders list:
          Good Traders List - Page 80 - Mego Talk

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          • Werewolf
            Inhuman
            • Jul 14, 2003
            • 14980

            #35
            Originally posted by Blue Meanie


            I am a bit confused as to why the Black Box wouldn't be the original cut. Can someone explain? Thanks.
            It has the New Hope title opening scroll. The original trilogy versions for the 2006 Bonus DVDs are taken from the 93 laserdiscs but have the original non New Hope title scroll reinserted at the beginning of Star Wars.

            [edit] Your link explains in better detail the problems of the 93 digital masters both the 93 Laserdisc and 2006 DVDs use.

            " The official release was plagued by a number of problems: 1) The 1993 master had DNR applied to it which smeared away detail in any moving shot and sometimes left trailing artifacts. 2) It was not anamorphic. 3) It suffered from aliasing or "jaggies". 4) It was not up to modern standards of detail. All of these were a result of the era in which it was made, which was over a decade out of date. 5) It was excessively grainy, especially in early scenes. 6) The audio mix was not the original. 7) It was plagued by frame jitter, or gate weave. 8) It lacked the original subtitles."
            Last edited by Werewolf; Jun 1, '14, 6:03 PM.
            You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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            • Blue Meanie
              Talkative Member
              • Jun 23, 2001
              • 8706

              #36
              Unfortunately I personally don't think Disney will ever come out with a better version than is already out...at least when it comes to an untouched/No added affects version. BTW, looking at the image comparisons of '93 vs. '04 on the site...I'd rather have the '93 than the '04 version.

              "When not too many people can see we're all the same
              And because of all their tears,
              Their eyes can't hope to see
              The beauty that surrounds them
              Isn't it a pity".

              - "Isn't It A Pity"
              By George Harrison


              My Good Buyers/Sellers/Traders list:
              Good Traders List - Page 80 - Mego Talk

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              • Werewolf
                Inhuman
                • Jul 14, 2003
                • 14980

                #37
                Originally posted by Blue Meanie
                BTW, looking at the image comparisons of '93 vs. '04 on the site...I'd rather have the '93 than the '04 version.
                The 2004 DVDs share the same masters as the Blu rays and have all the same issues. Digital changes aside, they suffer from crushed blacks and a terrible new pink toned oversaturated color scheme. Just miserable transfers.

                As outdated as it is, the best version of the classic trilogy commercially available is from the 2006 DVD bonus discs.
                Last edited by Werewolf; Jun 1, '14, 6:29 PM.
                You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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                • Klosterheim
                  Persistent Member
                  • Mar 23, 2013
                  • 1126

                  #38
                  If the original Star Wars Blu ray is as good as the Jaws Blu-ray, I'm in!

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                  • Gorn Captain
                    Invincible Ironing Man
                    • Feb 28, 2008
                    • 10549

                    #39
                    Looking at the difference between these two images...I just don't care...
                    The images are good enough for me, and I'd rather watch a great story with ok images than a crap story in glorious HD.

                    The only thing that still interests me now is seeing deleted scenes and doing SW archaeology, finding all the missing bits.
                    I'd love to see the original SW with all the missing scenes edited back into it, no matter what the picture quality.

                    I'm a big fan of old movies (like the Chaney Phantom), and if the images are poor at times, I'm still happy because I'm watching a terrific story.

                    Originally posted by Blue Meanie
                    Unfortunately I personally don't think Disney will ever come out with a better version than is already out...at least when it comes to an untouched/No added affects version. BTW, looking at the image comparisons of '93 vs. '04 on the site...I'd rather have the '93 than the '04 version.

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                    "When things are at their darkest, it's a brave man that can kick back and party."

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                    • Werewolf
                      Inhuman
                      • Jul 14, 2003
                      • 14980

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Gorn Captain
                      Looking at the difference between these two images...I just don't care...
                      That picture is very flattering to the absolutely horrible color altered 2004 transfer the Blu rays are from. This video of the making of a fan restoration gives you a better idea.



                      It also crops out the large surrounding boarder the non anamorphic 93 transfer has on modern HD televisions. As well as all the other primitive digital restoration flaws the severely outdated 93 transfer has.
                      You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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                      • Werewolf
                        Inhuman
                        • Jul 14, 2003
                        • 14980

                        #41
                        A little bit of interesting news.

                        This site mentions a 4k restoration of the SW trilogy.

                        Under projects-restoration.



                        Note restoration. Not upscale. So, this is not the altered digital transfer used on the Blu-rays getting an upscale to 4k. This has to be an actual film restoration.

                        SW clips are also shown in the image processing video under reels.
                        You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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                        • apes3978
                          Talkative Member
                          • Nov 19, 2005
                          • 5116

                          #42
                          Gorn,

                          Good points all around... I feel the same way...



                          Originally posted by Gorn Captain
                          Looking at the difference between these two images...I just don't care...
                          The images are good enough for me, and I'd rather watch a great story with ok images than a crap story in glorious HD.

                          The only thing that still interests me now is seeing deleted scenes and doing SW archaeology, finding all the missing bits.
                          I'd love to see the original SW with all the missing scenes edited back into it, no matter what the picture quality.

                          I'm a big fan of old movies (like the Chaney Phantom), and if the images are poor at times, I'm still happy because I'm watching a terrific story.

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                          • Hedji
                            Citizen of Gotham
                            • Nov 17, 2012
                            • 7246

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Werewolf
                            A little bit of interesting news.

                            This site mentions a 4k restoration of the SW trilogy.

                            Under projects-restoration.



                            Note restoration. Not upscale. So, this is not the altered digital transfer used on the Blu-rays getting an upscale to 4k. This has to be an actual film restoration.

                            SW clips are also shown in the image processing video under reels.
                            Very interesting.

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                            • jds1911a1
                              Alan Scott is the best GL
                              • Aug 8, 2007
                              • 3556

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Blue Meanie
                              So The Big Black Box remastered Laserdisc set is what then?? It's not the original cut? IMHO the Black Box LD set is THE definitive set:



                              Best sound and picture. They even talk about it on this site:




                              I am a bit confused as to why the Black Box wouldn't be the original cut. Can someone explain? Thanks.
                              Star wars in the 77 relase did not have EPISODE IV A NEW HOPE a the start of the crawl. the defninitive colleciton LD box set is the theatrical releases of all 3 films with the caveat that Star wars has the 78 oscar re-release crawl with the A new hope sub title. There are about 25 minutes of footage shot on skywalker farm with Bigs and in anchorhead with Luke and his freands that was not in the release, likewise there was some footage for empire with wampas in the base

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                              • Werewolf
                                Inhuman
                                • Jul 14, 2003
                                • 14980

                                #45
                                I've been reading reports that during the SDCC Lucasfilm was showing digitally restored versions of the original theatrical trailers of the classic trilogy at their booth. To be totally clear these were restored classic trailers of the original trilogy. NOT a trailer for a restored release of the classic trilogy. It still does make you wonder why they were showing them or why they'd restore the pre-special edition trailers.
                                You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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