Doctor Who 2-Amy's episode tonight

[samurainoir]

Shockingly, this might just be the episode that hooked my wife! Despite the lack of sexy vampires.

She'd seen previous episodes, but to her, they mostly seemed like a show about robots running around shooting stuff and screaming things. She indulged me by sitting in while I watched this episode, and then last night she really surprised me by asking to watch another one. So I showed her the first Matt Smith episode. Now she's in the other room watching the next one on her own.

This is the same woman who threatened to open up a wrist if she ever had to sit through another conversation about Red Dwarf.

Now I have to figure out which other episodes she might like.

[MEMEGO]

Samurainoir - I think she may like the Doctor's Wife, that was a wonderful episode written by Neil Gainman. (I think I spelled his last name wrong)

[ctc]

>they mostly seemed like a show about robots running around shooting stuff and screaming things

So....THIS is how your wife sees Doctor Who?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev_S6...eature=related

Awesome!

Don C.

[Nefud]

As long as River Song isn't in it, it's a GREAT episode

Mikey I think you and I are going to get along just fine.

[wolfie]

River Song Rocks.

[samurainoir]

Samurainoir - I think she may like the Doctor's Wife, that was a wonderful episode written by Neil Gainman. (I think I spelled his last name wrong)

Good one. She really likes Stardust by Gaiman.

She's decided to go chronologically starting with Matt Smith and has burned through half of his first season over two nights. Rewatching them, it really does drive home how fantasy/horror/romance driven the show has been since Moffat took over. Vampires, the stone angels, creepy carnival of the future, Dream Lord... Doctor's Peter Pan thing. The show has been ridiculously overt with the fairy tale winks and nods.

The Daleks took a bit of explaining though. She thought the "bad Artoo Deetoos" were kind of silly (back to the running around shouty shooty robots).

[Bruce Banner]

Tonight's episode was better than the last few, IMHO.

I got a strange thrill out of hearing the Nimon referenced, too!

[pmwasson]

I was surprised that they never mentioned Rory waited 1000 years compared to Amy waiting 36 or maybe I just missed it.

[ctc]

>I got a strange thrill out of hearing the Nimon referenced

Yeah; that ws weird. The ending was a shock....

Don C.

[LonnieFisher]

From two Amy's to no Amy! Bummer.

[Mikey]

I had a hard time understanding the plot - even at the end

I still don't know if the Nimon was good or bad

As far as Amy and Rory leaving I don't believe that one bit.

It's probably a way for the producers to make a Matt only story aka Midnight/Deadly Assassin.

[palitoy]

I still don't know if the Nimon was good or bad

He had been stuck in that prison so long he just wanted to die. He was technically "the bad guy" but it wasn't so black and white. A lot of character growth in this one, really enjoyed it.

[wolfie]

Amy & Rory are not in next weeks episode but have to be in the last one the week after due to previous episodes.

[samurainoir]

Given the arc of the season, it's a circular time travel story driven reason to separate the Doctor from Amy and Rory before the season finale and his approaching death as seen in the first episode opening of the season. Remember, they encounter the Doctor just in time to witness his death, and they are not traveling with him at that point in time.

It's seems kind of odd that Amy is the first official companion (not counting her daughter River Song) to encounter the Doctor in such a non-linear fashion given the nature of time travel and the Doctor's decades long established pattern of not being able to fully control where or when he ends up (depending on the story). Although I guess a big part of it is assuming that the viewers have grown more sophisticated and can follow along with this non-linear approach.

As much as I love Amy and Rory, they have had such strong character arcs in the past two seasons that I'd prefer that they leave on a high note rather than overstay their welcome (I'm lookin' at you Rose!). Particularly with the whole Peter Pan thing, and the Doctor asking Amy to "grow up" at the end of this episode.


Although it astonishing how their way of once again "overlooking" Rory in this episode was actually one of the strongest character moments overall in the episode... his lack of faith is why they keep showing him the Exit, and the fact that he's the only one who actually really got to quietly know a couple of the others and small details of their lives before they died (that the guy with the glasses fought a stutter). He is a nurse after all, and he obviously has to have those soft people skills... i guess at the expense of his own needs most times as we've seen continually in this series.

But the Lack of Faith thing is certainly interesting... does that mean for example that he's actually the strongest character because he does not need that external validation? This is a guy who stood around for 1000 years after all. Who can you rely on in those circumstances other than yourself?

[Mikey]

[QUOTE=samurainoir;805660]Given the arc of the season, it's a circular time travel story driven reason to separate the Doctor from Amy and Rory before the season finale and his approaching death as seen in the first episode opening of the season. Remember, they encounter the Doctor just in time to witness his death, and they are not traveling with him at that point in time.

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good one

I didn't even think of that