CGI ST:TOS Klingons already!!

[TrueDave]

Why not?
Forget Enterprise , and Trials and Tribulations.

How about some animators go back and slap some ridges on the klingon heads? We still have our classic version.

It would wrap up the whole issue. Roddenberry wanted them done up but couldnt afford it. Wonder what his original visual idea was other than "Swarthy". . . .can't remeber.

[Mikey]

The way I understand it John Colicos basically invented the Klingon's look.

Lore has it Roddenberry let him help design what a Klingon should look like - and it remained the same until The Motion Picture.

[ctc]

Hmmmm....

I dunno. I'm a "warts and all" kinda guy, so I don't like monkeying with stuff like this. They're fine the way they are, and there's no sense encouraging Paramount to relase ANOTHER set of disks.... "Completely restored to the originals".... so's to soak the fans AGAIN in the future.

Besides; you're NOT gonna fool the kids into thinking it's new.

Don C.

[Bruce Banner]

Sure, I'd like to see the OS Klingons ridged up someday, but I always simply try to imagine them like that anyhow whenever I watch the show. Works pretty well!

Wasn't too sure about Enterprise trying to explain it all via the augment virus storyline... that all just seemed contrived.

I always remember seeing TMP for the first time as a kid and thinking how cool and menacing the new Klingons looked.

[ctc]

>Wasn't too sure about Enterprise trying to explain it all via the augment virus storyline

Dunno that one. (I didn't watch Enterprise so much.) The original story was that they were engineered Klingon/Human hybrids: the Klingons did it so's they could fight better in human-normal environments. (There were supposedly Klingon/Romulan ones too.)

Don C.

[david_b]

>Wasn't too sure about Enterprise trying to explain it all via the augment virus storyline

Dunno that one. (I didn't watch Enterprise so much.) The original story was that they were engineered Klingon/Human hybrids: the Klingons did it so's they could fight better in human-normal environments. (There were supposedly Klingon/Romulan ones too.)

Don C.

Don, that's the first I've heard that rationale, but it's the BEST IDEA so far..

[Gorn Captain]

Leave the old school Klingons alone.
I mean it.
Don't make me sharpen my Bat'leth.....

Enterprise explained it all perfectly well (with the virus), so no need to start painting ridges on John Colicos....

[Mikey]

The old Klingon's were better because they were basically the Hell's Angels of the galaxy.

Once they were give weird heads, it ruined their original personalities

[Gorn Captain]

Old school Klingons seemed a bit more...educated.
The new Klingons are more about meat and mayhem....

[Doc]

Don, that's the first I've heard that rationale, but it's the BEST IDEA so far..

That was the rational they used in the role playing game. With the little model ships Fasa I believe. They had a whole 4 year war military history. More military theme to Star Fleet too. What they figured the logical progression to the series would have been. The Movie and STNG threw that all out the window. None of it was considered Cannon.

[Mikey]

Enterprise ruined any notion of ANYTHING being cannon anymore.

For me the true history will always be the FASA history.

[Doc]

Enterprise ruined any notion of ANYTHING being cannon anymore.

For me the true history will always be the FASA history.

Another fan? Lets have a moment of silence in honor of all those brave souls who gave their lives in Operation Dixie and Operation Grey Ghost. The intel they gathered on the Klingons and Romulans was invaluable in saving the Federation............................

[ctc]

>That was the rational they used in the role playing game.

Yup!

>None of it was considered Cannon.

It WAS.... until the Next Gen. FASA had a helluva time with Paramount and Roddenberry. EVERYTHING in the game was scrutinized, which is why I refrence it so much. But when the Next Gen came out Roddenberry was looking to take Trek away from the military aspect and more into the exploratory; so a lot of older stuff got quashed. Like the Gorn: their supplement for the RPG was in the works and the plug got yanked.... and thus far I've never been able to track down any notes from it!

Gorn rule! WOOOOOOO!!!!!

Don C.

[Mikey]

How the UFP really began ......

Earth's outpost on Alpha Centuri got an unknown distress call from space.

They rescued the unknown ship ..

The ship was Vulcan and was Earth's first meeting with Aliens

Both Earth and Vulcan teamed up and started exploring.

The first planets that were discovered were Tellar and Andor.

These 5 planets teamed up to make the United Federation of Planets.

I think that's right

[ctc]

>I think that's right

Pretty much. Earth sublight ships made contact with the Centauri, and Cochrane was a Centauri scientist who perfected warp. One of their earliest ships met the Vulcans. The Vulcans already knew of the Andorians at that time. The Caitians and Edoans were discovered during the Enterprise's first 5 year tour under Kirk. (Hence their inclusion in the cartoon but not original show.)

Don C.