Back to the Future: Just how Inbred were the McFly's?

[samurainoir]

So in this time-line, we've got the Twin Pines Marty and his Delorean aided by Doc Brown of 1955.
Lone Pines Bif of 2015 and his stolen Delorean.
Twin Pines Marty returned from his dark alt-1985 with the Lone Pines Doc.
The dead body of Doc buried in the cemetery since 1885 along with the Delorean in the cave since 1885...

So where did Lone Pines Marty from the end of the initial Back to the Future installment end up again?

[Joe90]

I'm with Miles O'Brien when it comes to Temporal Physics...

Time Travel stopped being innocent fun for me when I read The Proteus Operation. The thought of an infinite number of parallel universes all seems so very sober and serious.

[darklord1967]

So in this time-line, we've got the Twin Pines Marty and his Delorean aided by Doc Brown of 1955.
Lone Pines Bif of 2015 and his stolen Delorean.
Twin Pines Marty returned from his dark alt-1985 with the Lone Pines Doc.
The dead body of Doc buried in the cemetery since 1885 along with the Delorean in the cave since 1885...

Absolutely Correct! At the close of Back to the Future part 2, what you describe is PRECISELY what the timeline looks like!

So where did Lone Pines Marty from the end of the initial Back to the Future installment end up again?

Ah-ha! Well that is the real question, isn't it? I mean, we never see Lone Pine Marty beyond the end scene of Back To The Future Part 1. And when we last saw him, he was speeding toward a time travel trip into a single common timeline past (1955) that is shared by BOTH the Twin Pines reality AND the Lone Pine reality.

SO... what happened to Lone Pine Marty?

Well... as District Attorney Jim Garrison said (during his summation of the Clay Shaw murder trial), "Let's speculate for a moment shall we?"

HOWEVER... as I try to answer that question, let me first state a few things up front:

1) Wherever possible I will use information and clues that appear in the films to extrapolate likely historical events that DO NOT appear in the films. This will require some conjecture, assumption, and a generous amount of creative dramatic license.

2) My speculation about Lone Pine Marty's fate will take into account the supposition that:

A) November 12th, 1955 is likely "...a temporal junction point of the entire space-time continuum..." (as stated by Doc Brown)

AND

B) The universe maintains a self-defense mechanism for preventing time-paradoxes caused by the interventions of Time-travelers.

3) I am of the belief that the Twin Pines timeline reality that we see at the start of Back to the Future Part 1 has already been "polluted" by time-travel interventions into the past. I will explain why later.

4) With my written speculation as to the fate of Lone Pines Marty, I DO NOT mean to infer an intimate working knowledge of Bob Gale and Robert Zemeckis' narrative intentions beyond what they they presented in the finished films or documentaries of the makings on the films.

5) Unfortunately my speculation must be a little long since the answer to the question of What happened to Lone Pines Marty does NOT have a simple answer. To that end, I will break down my analysis into several posts to make it easier to read.

Alright... let's get to it.

THE FATE OF LONE PINE MARTY...


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[darklord1967]

DOCTOR EMMETT BROWN INVENTS A TIME MACHINE


Before we can properly speculate as to what became of the Marty from the Lone Pines Mall universe, we must first understand the workings of Doc Brown's Time Machine.

It's clear that Doctor Emmett Brown spent many years and much of his family fortune to finally come up with the successful invention of his automobile time machine. In order to do this, Brown made intense studies of Albert Einstien's Theories of General Relativity and Special Relativity.


In 1955, Brown finally makes a scientific breakthrough when he develops a mathematical model that combines Einstien's Relativity theory with Heisenberg's Quantam Mechanics, effectively creating a ten-dimensional wormhole at the super-string level.

Theoretically, through the intense electromagnetic warpage of the fourth dimension, two different points in space-time could be made to intersect, briefly resulting in the formation of a wormhole. This artificial singularity could be made expand exponentially (like a virus gone wild) ONLY so long as IMMENSE amounts of energy were continuously applied to it.

But Brown theorizes that the energy needed to hold open this singularity and allow for time travel could be greatly reduced if the wormhole were opened for only the briefest fraction of an instant, and if it were precisely timed to open up directly in the path of a moving object intending to travel through time.

The basic three-point "Y" shaped energy ribbon that Doc Brown envisioned on November 5th, 1955 became the model for the powerful energy configuration that would briefly hold open the wormhole.

Brown's only stumbling blocks are:

a) He does not possess an immense energy source that is capable of warping space-time and holding open his theorized wormhole for even the split second that he needs.

b) The theorized gravitational and thermal forces at the "event horizon" (or mouth) of the singularity could potentially be so great as to destroy any object or individual crossing through it.

In 1985, Doctor Emmett Brown's time-travel project finally gets a HUGE boost forward when he is approached by Lybian terrorists and asked to build a suitcase nuke bomb out of the raw plutonium they provide him with. Instead, Brown gives the unsuspecting terrorists a case full of worn pinball machine parts and steals their cache of plutonium.

Brown intends to use the plutonium as the final energy source solution to his stalled time travel experiment. He outfits a powerful electromagnetic generator to the electrical systems of a DeLorean automobile . He hopes to use the immensely powerful electromagnetic field generated by this device to create a controlled fourth dimensional warp , and briefly hold open a wormhole singularity caused by the intersection of two points in space-time.

Each single plutonium rod that he has stolen will provide just enough raw electromagnetic power (through nuclear fusion) to accurately perform the procedure only once. Brown has calculated that the problem of thermal and gravitational forces at the event horizon of the singularity will actually NOT be as great an issue as he originally thought since the source of power creating the wormhole will originate from the time vehicle itself. The car will, in effect, be "protected" against these powerful forces by the very same electromagnetic "cocoon" that it will create around itself, reverberating around its stainless steel construction (with the help of electromagnetic amplifiers that the Doc has strung around the contours of the car)

There will indeed be a radical thermal change as the car passes through the wormhole's event horizon, but this will be negligible and limited only to the exterior of the time vehicle. The temperature change is dictated by the Delorean's brief entry and passage through the fourth dimensional realm's temperature of absolute cold.

Stay with me everyone. The boring science stuff is over, and I promise to get to Lone Pines Marty soon enough...


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[darklord1967]

TIME TRAVEL MISHAPS & PARALELL REALITIES


Throughout these posts we've been speaking of only TWO reality timelines:

REALITY-A (aka "Twin Pines Mall Reality") and REALITY-B (aka "Lone Pine Mall Reality")

We've also stated that these two realities share a single common "past" on the morning of November 5th 1955, just before the destruction of a Pine tree on the Peabody farm.

Here's my problem, though: It seems to me that the Twin Pines Mall reality is already influenced by time travel intervention in the past due to the historical presence of a lightning bolt that struck the Hill Valley Courthouse clock tower (which I believe is an artificial event NOT a natural one).

Because of this, I believe it is prudent to examine the very real possibility that more than TWO reality timelines share that common November 5th 1955 past.

So for the sake of simplification let us define THREE (3) realities that branch off from that single 1955 past reality:


REALITY ONE: This will be Twin Pines Mall reality WITHOUT a lightning bolt ever having struck the Hill Valley Courthouse Clocktower.

REALITY TWO:: This will be the Twin Pines Mall reality WITH a lightning bolt that strikes the Hill Valley Courthouse Clocktower. This is also the reality that we come in on at the beginning of Back To The Future Part 1

and lastly...

REALITY THREE This will be Lone Pine Mall reality.


Okay... Why do I think the lightning bolt that struck the clock tower is NOT natural?

Well, I believe this because I suspect that the universe's self-preservation mechanism kicked in to prevent time paradoxes during all of this sloppy time-traveling and interference / pollution of established events / realities.

I suspect that the storm and the lightning bolt that permanently damaged the Hill Valley Courthouse Clock Tower were, in fact, a by-product of the DeLorean Time machine's electromagnetic interference with the space-time continuum.

As evidence to support this theory, please note that the storm which appeared over the skies of Hill Valley on the night of November 12 1955 was a completely unexpected and un-detected event... even as late as an hour before it struck. This is highly un-likely for a storm that was as violent and powerful as that one turned out to be.

When 1985 Doc Brown encounters his younger 1955 self and chats with him, young Brown mentions that he is conducting an experiment where he is hoping for some lightning, but that the weather forecast predicted no rain (or storms) of any kind for that evening.

So that storm front (which should easily have been tracked by meteorologists) did not originally exist. It was created artificially by a sudden occurence of some kind.

Also, the raging violence of the storm itself presents an interesting time-travel clue. This storm was SO violent that Doc Brown and Marty McFly had to shout to one another just to be heard over its loud roar! But this loud roaring storm SUDDENLY ENDS IN TOTAL SILENCE at the moment the lightning bolt strikes the clock tower and transports the Delorean Time Machine back to 1985.

Also note that the violent electrical storm (one again) END SUDDENLY INTO TOTAL SILENCE at the very moment that the flying Delorean time machine (piloted by Doc Brown at the end of BTTF Part 2) is struck by lighting and is sent to the year 1885.

It is almost as though the Delorean (s) totally absorbed the violent storm at the moment it (they) harnessed that electromagnetic power. It is not too far of a stretch, then, to assume that the two lightning bolts in question had electro-magnetic signatures that were identical to the signatures of the DeLorean Time Machine's electromagnetic discharge. I think they're identical because they originated from the time machine itself!

There is always a VIOLENT electro-magnetic lightning discharge that occurs just prior to the DeLorean Time Machine emerging from a trip through time. Typically there are always two or three loud flashes of electromagnetic lightning followed by the sudden appearence of the time-vehicle.

Alright... gettin' closer to the fate of Lone Pines Marty.

Hang in there folks. I promise. All of this relates...


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[darklord1967]

THREE REALITIES - TWO TRAGEDIES


Alright, so we've got three parallel reality timelines all sharing that single November 5th 1955 past.

It's important to note that although some reality timelines are very similar to each other, each is nevertheless unique and features at least something that sets it apart from the infinite numbers of others.

So let us assume that in the THREE realities I illustrated at play here, the differences include:

1) The demeanor, thought patterns, actions, and general intelligence of Marty McFly. (similar in Reality 1 & 2, but very different in Reality 3)

2) The name of the Shopping Mall where the late night time travel experiment happens ("Twin Pines" in Reality 1 & 2 / "Lone Pine" in reality 3)

3) Doc Brown's fate (murdered in reality 1 & 2 / survived (by way of bullet proof vest in reality 3)

4) Clock Tower Lightning bolt (Not present in Reality 1 / Present in Reality 2 & 3)

5) Marty McFly's driving trajectory when being chased by the blood-thirsty Lybians (likely different from each other in all three realities).

6) The Delorean Time Machine (stalling starter ignition in Realities 1 & 2 / perfectly operational starter in Reality 3).

7) The exact hour (on November 5th 1955) that appears on the Delorean's time circuits (likely different in all three realities - Universe trying to prevent the same matter from occuying the same space at the same time)



So... In REALITY ONE Marty McFly watches horrifed as his friend Doc Brown is gunned down by Lybian terrorists. He jumps into the Delorean car (which has just been outfited with a single plutonium rod for travelling through time) and takes off. The gunmen give chase, and when Marty accelerrates up to 88 miles per hour, the car travels to the last date punched into the Time circuits by Doc Brown: November 5th, 1955.

Let us assume that (because he took a slightly different trajectory during the chase with the Lybians) Reality 1 Marty does NOT crash into the Peabody farm when he arrives in 1955. Instead, he arrives in an open field and it is (let's say) 1:22 AM. Marty brings the car to halt, and takes a moment to calm himself and gather his bearings. He looks through his windshield and sees that the the Twin Pines Mall and the Lybians no longer exist and he realizes after a moment the he has traveled backward in time to November 5th 1955. He immediately decides to return to his own time. So he punches October 26th 1985 1:20 AM into the time circuit, and once again accelerates the Delorean up to 88 miles per hour.

But the nervous teenager has forgotten that the Plutonium rod that powers the time machine's flux capacitor provides only enough raw power to accurately perform ONE successful trip through time. There IS a remnant of power left in the rod, but it is only sufficient to forward-warp space-time a minimal amount (about seven days). The resulting wormhole is unstable and NOT held open long enough for Marty to cross through it. The electro-magnetic pulse necessary to hold open the singularity suddenly terminates as the plutonium rod is totally depleted.

Sadly, the wormhole pinches closed upon the Delorean instantly after it enters the singularity. The unprotected car is violently CRUSHED into nothing, instantly killing REALITY 1 Marty McFly.

This tragic event causes a violent electromagnetic storm (at the outlet end of the unstable wormhole singularity) which manifests as an angry, violent storm front crackling over the skies of Hill Valley late on the evening of November 12, 1955. A lightning bolt from this storm STRIKES the Hill Valley Court House Clock Tower, permanently damaging the mechanism.

REALITY 1 Marty McFly never gets to meet or interact with anyone from 1955 before he is killed. So the parallel reality he creates (REALITY 2) is virtually identical from his own except that now, a lightning bolt has struck the Hill Valley Courthouse Clock tower and is part of that reality's history.


Next, we have REALITY 2 (The reality seen at the beginning of Back To The Future Part 1). I won't go into the details of what happens to Marty McFly here since we already know that. Suffice it to say that this Marty arrives in November 5th 1955 at 5:55 AM (so he never runs into REALITY 1 Marty nor the other Delorean (who arrived and were destroyed earlier at 1:22 AM). He crashes into the Peabody farmhouse, kills a pine tree, and speeds off into the dawn while the old man fires rifle blasts at him.

This Marty never gets a chance to calm down, so it never really occurs to him that he has travelled backward in time, much less to try using the time machine to go back to his own time. As Marty drives away from the Peabody farm, he actually tries to convince himself that this is all "... a very intense dream..." The starter stalls on the car after Marty stops to look at his home, which is now the fledgling Lyons Estates housing Development (just beginning its ground-breaking). The plutoinum Rod indicator light goes off, indicating that the rod in the flux capacitor chamber is depleted. Marty hides the car behind a road sign and walks into town.

Marty's subsequent 1955 adventure causes a "branch-off" to a new reality, REALITY 3 (aka Lone Pines Mall reality).

Once again, events on the night of the time travel experiment at the mall are similar to the other two realities... EXCEPT:

1) The Mall is now named "Lone Pine Mall".

2) REALITY 3 Marty McFly is probably smarter and better-adjusted than the Martys from Realities 1 & 2 since his parents and siblings are NOT losers, and he would actually have them as better role models to grow up with.

3) Doc Brown has prepared for the attack that he knows is coming from Lybian Terrorists by wearing a bullet-proof vest.

4) Doc Brown has probably developed the Delorean with a perfectly functioning starter... one that does NOT stall (as Reality 2 Marty complained was the case with his Delorean).

So... in REALITY 3, the Lybians shoot Doc Brown, and they think they have killed him. They then lead Marty on a chase where he accidentally launches himself to November 5th 1955. Reality 2 Marty witnesses all of this at the end of BTTF Part 1.

Reality 3 Marty arrives at the Peabody farm on November 5th 1955 at, let's say, 6:10 AM (that's 15 minutes after Reality 2 Marty has left and walked into town)

BOTH Marty's now occupy Reality 3 (Lone Pine Mall), and BOTH are now making changes to the timeline by their very presence.

Unfortunately, Lone Pine Marty's contributions to the changes on this timeline are short-lived. Like his Reality 1 counterpart, this MArty attempts to return to 1985 with the time machine, forgetting that the plutonium rod doesn't have sufficient energy to warp space time for a full 30 years. Instead, it only warps space-time for about 7 days . And then the wormhole suddenly pinches closed upon the Delorean crushing it and killing Marty McFly instantly.

The destruction of this DeLorean manifests as the lightning storm above hill valley (just like the destruction of the other Delorean). But this car produces the violent lightning strike that sends Doc Brown's flying Delorean back to 1885 at the end of BTTF Part 2.

So there you have it.

As I see it, Lone Pine Marty McFly is dead, I'm very sorry to say

[jwyblejr]

Soooo.......all of this is basically like the first Futurama movie? I'm just trying to make it easier for people to understand.

[Joe90]

Soooo.......all of this is basically like the first Futurama movie? I'm just trying to make it easier for people to understand.

I'm sticking with Miles O'Brien's original assertion.

[jwyblejr]

^ I just figured people's heads wouldn't explode as much if they went "ohhh....the whole deal with Lars on Futurama." Seems a little easier to wrap one's head around that.

[saildog]

Crises on Lone Pine Earth. Crises on Twin Pine Earth. Crises on Infinite...Pines????

Infinite Conifers???

[Joe90]

Crises on Lone Pine Earth. Crises on Twin Pine Earth. Crises on Infinite...Pines????

Infinite Conifers???

When you put it that way, I'm so very thankful that Gumby and Pokey never Time-Travelled.