Back to the Future: Just how Inbred were the McFly's?

[Doc]

[QUOTE=samurainoir;606378]Superman 1 and 2 before the Salkinds pulled the plug on Donner.

All three Lord of the Rings.

Darkman 2 and 3.

Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and 3.

The Matrix 2 and 3.

Harry Potter.

Green Lantern, Avatar and Mad Max sequels are all rumoured to be shooting back-to-back.[/QUOTe

But Back to the future was hyped as being one of the first. Superman was supposed to be one film until it became too cumbersome. All your other fine examples came after.

[Earth 2 Chris]

But Back to the future was hyped as being one of the first. Superman was supposed to be one film until it became too cumbersome. All your other fine examples came after.

Well...kinda. Most of Donner's stuff filmed for Superman II was meant for that movie, and was filmed simultaneously with shooting of Superman: The Movie. But because of the budget considerations, time, etc, Donner and Tom Mankewicz took the ending they originally envisioned for II and used it for the first movie, just in case Superman tanked.

Chris

[huedell]

Well...kinda. Most of Donner's stuff filmed for Superman II was meant for that movie, and was filmed simultaneously with shooting of Superman: The Movie. But because of the budget considerations, time, etc, Donner and Tom Mankewicz took the ending they originally envisioned for II and used it for the first movie, just in case Superman tanked.

With all the malarkey, I'm always thinking they really surpassed expectations
box-officewise for such a clustersuck of a scenario.

[samurainoir]

But Back to the future was hyped as being one of the first. Superman was supposed to be one film until it became too cumbersome. All your other fine examples came after.

I didn't say it wasn't! Simply replying to your second line of inquiry about how many.

[Mikey]

I was actually surprised I like Back To The Future 1.

My buddy seen it and told me "you gotta see this movie"

I didn't want to thinking it was a typical "teen flick"

I wound up going and was surprised how much I liked it.

[saildog]

I was actually surprised I like Back To The Future 1.

My buddy seen it and told me "you gotta see this movie"

I didn't want to thinking it was a typical "teen flick"

I wound up going and was surprised how much I liked it.

I just watched it on TV a couple of weeks ago and I was surprised by how much I still like it. It has held up pretty well for me.

One of the best gags for me, that kids today wouldn't understand, was the exchange between Marty and Lou, the guy who ran the Diner/Malt Shop (played by Norm Alden...Aquaman).

Lou: You gonna order something, kid?
Marty McFly: Ah, yeah... Give me - Give me a Tab.
Lou: Tab? I can't give you a tab unless you order something.
Marty McFly: All right, give me a Pepsi Free.
Lou: You want a Pepsi, PAL, you're gonna pay for it.

Now, if you think about it, Marty went back in time 30 years and that movie is 25 years old. Kids watching it today would be just as confused by that exchange as ole Lou was.

[huedell]

Now, if you think about it, Marty went back in time 30 years and that movie is 25 years old. Kids watching it today would be just as confused by that exchange as ole Lou was.

I just talked the Doc...he told me your revalation just put the Universe
in danger of collapse due to your Time Paradox discovery.

[saildog]

I just talked the Doc...he told me your revalation just put the Universe
in danger of collapse due to your Time Paradox discovery.

It's trippy, for sure.

25 years ago, I imagined a future where....well, Marty wouldn't think the DeLorean malfunctioned if he showed up in 2010. Technology has gotten smaller or faster, but not much has changed.

Marty: "How's the Space Program going?".

Random 2010 Person: "Well, the Space Shuttle Atlantis flew this May and Discovery is launching in November.".

Marty: "***!".

[Earth 2 Chris]

One of my favorite bits is where Darth Vader from the planet Vulcan threatens to melt George McFly's brain.

They don't make movies like that anymore. There are a few curse words in it, and some sexual innuendo, but it's sweet at it's core. Nowadays most movies are either for kids or just plain raunchy.

Chris

[saildog]

One of my favorite bits is where Darth Vader from the planet Vulcan threatens to melt George McFly's brain.

When Marty took out the Pine Tree, crashed into Old Man Peabody's barn, and Peabody's son Sherman matched Marty up to a cover of his Sci-Fi magazine. All of the established plot implications and real world references were too much to take in at the time!

[huedell]

It's trippy, for sure.

25 years ago, I imagined a future where....well, Marty wouldn't think the DeLorean malfunctioned if he showed up in 2010. Technology has gotten smaller or faster, but not much has changed.

Marty: "How's the Space Program going?".

Random 2010 Person: "Well, the Space Shuttle Atlantis flew this May and Discovery is launching in November.".

Marty: "***!".

I believe I just got the main meaning of your post...and, I agree,
that it's funny how it all "went down" from 1985 to 2010.

[TrueDave]

If Io was me and that was my mom and it was before I was born I would have to do that.

Embarrassing but True .

I also agree with Ellisons A Boy and His Dog.

[darklord1967]

Next to the STAR WARS saga, the Back To The Future Trilogy is, by far, my next favorite movie franchise.

About 6 years ago, I wrote a paper on the narrative inconsistencies, implications, paradoxes, and parallel timeline comparisons as they pertain to time-travel in the Back To The Future films.

There are indeed quite a few narrative loopholes in the time-traveling shown in these films (based on the very rules established in the first film).

But I had a lot of fun exploring these things in my paper (within the context of science and the implied workings of Doc Brown's Delorean time-machine and it's ability to warp space-time into a junction-point wormhole that he can travel through)

Also, it was very interesting to explore the very dark and unsettling chain-reaction of events that led to the alternate realities seen in the films (George McFly's murder at the hands of Biff Tannen, Tannen's subsequent marriage to the widowed Lorraine McFly, Marty McFly being shipped off to Switzerland by his "stepfather" Biff Tannen, Doc Emmet Brown being committed to a mental ward, Doc Brown's murder in 1885 by Buford Tannen "over a matter of 80 dollars", etc.) It's amazing to me that all of those (alternate) terrible events became possible by the mere handing off of a sports almanac to young Biff (in 1955). Even more incredible is the idea that the concept of this hand-off occurs to old Biff Tannen in the year 2015 (after overhearing it)

But the thing I enjoyed exploring the most in my paper is the question of what became of "Lone Pine Mall" Marty McFly (who is seen at the very end of Back To the Future accidentally launching himself to 1955, just as our "Twin Pines Mall" Marty did at the beginning of the film). I can tell you that his fate (as I imagine it), although it is not seen in the films, is likely not a happy one.

And our Twin Pines Marty really "trades up" doesn't he? I mean, he goes from being a self-conscious loser with loser parents, and siblings, all living in a crappy home (at the beginning of the film), to becoming a kid with successful parents and siblings, all living in a beautiful home with his own shiny black 4X4 in the garage (at the end of the film). But that great life does NOT belong to him. It is the rightful life of this other "Lone Pines Marty" briefly seen at the end of the film disappearing into the past in the Delorean.

Meanwhile, somewhere in space-time, there is likely a 1985 parallel-reality (the Twin-Pines Mall reality) where Doctor Emmet Brown has been shot dead, and Marty has gone missing, never to be seen again. He is probably presumed dead by his loser parents and siblings.

This reality likely continues to exist among the infinite numbers of variations within space-time. It does not get "erased" or re-written.

Our Marty's shocked reactions to his "new" home-life at the end of the films proves this. He has memories of this loser life with loser parents and a loser home. If this reality were "erased" or "re-written", then so would Marty's memories have been.

[darklord1967]

Both movies kinda stink because they lack Crispen Glover. I know he clams he dropped out because he didn't want to play that character again - but my guess is that it came down to money.

Well, by all accounts, Crispin Glover is a bit of a strange dude, and a little tough to work with. According to Producer Bob Gale, Glover didn't "drop out"... he was fired.

Through his agent, Crispin Glover made some extravagant demands (in terms of money and perks) for his return to the series after the success of the first one. Bob Gale and Director Bob Zemeckis responded that they would really like for him to be in the sequels, however he would need to revise some of his demands which were, frankly, unreasonable for an actor at that early stage of his career. Glover and his camp refused to make the concessions, so they proceeded without him.

[Earth 2 Chris]

^Ha, good point. I kind of divide time travel stories into "alternate realities" and "rewritten history". I guess Back To the Future subscribed to the later, but had elements of the former. Of course some time travel stories posit that the time traveler is somehow "outside" the timestream, and can therefore remember his/her original history.

Chris