Pick one: Holodeck or transporter?

[ddgaff1132]

Transporter. Save gas. It would need a recall feature as I dont have a Scotty to bring me back.
(How would you feel if you turned off the Holodeck and you too faded away. Just musing.)

[DocDrako]

I'd take the Holodeck. So much potential for leisure time. Other eras, other planets, other cities, etc.

One problem with the Transporter is that if it were real, it would no doubt be owned by some company or even the goverment and they'd charge everyone for it's use. "This Transporter plan offers unlimited local and long distance use for only $10,000 a month."

[TrueDave]

Technology cannot be controlled.

Holodeck? No more exploration. No more invention. We wpould stagnate.

Thats wghat we are facing with virtual reality. Ever seen Brainscan? The old dude sitting in the basement rotting on VR porn? Mice when thier brains have been hooked up to please buttons would forgo eating to push the button till they died.

Transporter?

" getting there is half the fun " Fozzie and Kermit Muppet movie.

Flying is disorientating. I once flew top florida and missed quite a bit. I drove back and saw Georgia The smokey mountains , relatives , stopped at all kinds of resturants and small towns.

It would hurt the world economy. No more cars, no more jobs hauling freight on trucks boats or trains. No planes, etc.

And it would be used as a weapon. in so many ways.

We need to grow up a lot as a race to have either of these.

[UnderdogDJLSW]

But what do you guys think of the explained technology that everytime you transport you are actually killed and or disintegrated and a clone of you is "built" using local source matter at the destination you are going then your consciousness is beamed into the clone.

James Blish had a novel where they were concerned about that (Not the beamed next to the sewer part). But, the quote from wiki below is usually how I've heard it. It is supposed to be the same molocules transmitted to the new location, not a clone:

Simultaneously, the object was broken down into a stream of subatomic particles, also called the matter stream. The matter stream was briefly stored in a pattern buffer while the system compensates for Doppler shift to the destination.

The matter stream was then transmitted to its destination via a subspace frequency. As with any type of transmission of energy or radiation, scattering and degradation of the signal must be monitored closely. The annular confinement beam (ACB) acted to maintain the integrity of the information contained in the beam. Finally, the initial process was reversed and the object or individual was reassembled at the destination.

Man I'm really geeking out now

[Hector]

I'd want a long-distance transporter.
Going from planet to planet. Because a lot of the time, the transporter is used on occasions when a simple shuttlepod would have done the trick, too. I'd travel the universe, no doubt about it.

The Federation is supposed to have expanded to only about 19% of the galaxy (this was discloded in a TNG episode)...let alone the entire universe.

So you are not going to be able to transport from one end of the universe to the other.

Who's is going to place the other transporter to the other side?

[Meule]

So if you beam down next to a sewer, you just might be full of sh-t

I can think of a couple of people that already are

[jds1911a1]

I'd want a long-distance transporter.
Going from planet to planet. Because a lot of the time, the transporter is used on occasions when a simple shuttlepod would have done the trick, too. I'd travel the universe, no doubt about it.

I'd be careful with too much transporting, 'cause odds are you'll end up looking like Pike someday.

I'd go for the Holodeck when I'm older, and can't get around much anymore. Bring the universe to my living room. I wouldn't have to take my dogs for endless walks anymore. I'd program it to make a stretch with nothing but trees and lamp posts. Going in a huge circle. My dogs would come back to me, exhausted but satisfied.
I'd make a program that gives me every toy in the world. Wouldn't that save money....

Pike wasn't a transporter accident but Cmdr Sonak in STTMP was

[Mikey]

Technical question .......

But what do you guys think of the explained technology that everytime you transport you are actually killed and or disintegrated and a clone of you is "built" using local source matter at the destination you are going then your consciousness is beamed into the clone.

Technically everytime you transport you are a new clone.

If you read the tech books, your body is not actually disintegrated beamed and rebuilt ...
Your new body is made from local source matter at the destination.

So if you beam down next to a sewer, you just might be full of sh-t

[Gorn Captain]

I'd want a long-distance transporter.
Going from planet to planet. Because a lot of the time, the transporter is used on occasions when a simple shuttlepod would have done the trick, too. I'd travel the universe, no doubt about it.

I'd be careful with too much transporting, 'cause odds are you'll end up looking like Pike someday.

I'd go for the Holodeck when I'm older, and can't get around much anymore. Bring the universe to my living room. I wouldn't have to take my dogs for endless walks anymore. I'd program it to make a stretch with nothing but trees and lamp posts. Going in a huge circle. My dogs would come back to me, exhausted but satisfied.
I'd make a program that gives me every toy in the world. Wouldn't that save money....

[jds1911a1]

I hate to geek out here, but here goes. I believe one of the early episodes of TNG explained that the holodeck worked because of transporter technology. The walls and such were illusion, but the things like clothing, food, etc. were created via beam in of ships stores, etc.

Wish I could remember where I heard that exactly, but looks like everyone would want a transporter first

Though, Sharry, I agree it would be neat to be able to see the 70's again without worries!

Could have been encounter at Farpoint since it introduced the concept or The Big Goodbye the first Holodec centered story

[jds1911a1]

I didn't know the transporter was a cloning machine.

Hec Mike is making a reference to THE ENEMY WITHIN

[UnderdogDJLSW]

I hate to geek out here, but here goes. I believe one of the early episodes of TNG explained that the holodeck worked because of transporter technology. The walls and such were illusion, but the things like clothing, food, etc. were created via beam in of ships stores, etc.

Wish I could remember where I heard that exactly, but looks like everyone would want a transporter first

Though, Sharry, I agree it would be neat to be able to see the 70's again without worries!

[Meule]

The transporter would have unexpected drawbacks as well -- if they were commonplace.

Suddenly there would be no more snowday's from work.

Alcoholics would get worse considering they're only a second away from any ginmill or liquor store.

You have no excuse to cancel when invited to parties, get-togethers and other functions you don't feel like attending.

Terrorists would have a field day.

It never snows that much here that you can't go to work

Alcoholics will find their way to liquor store no matter what. That still doesn't mean they suddenly have more money to buy more alcohol, so I don't see this getting worse. Look at like this: they get arrested by the cops and get immediately transported to rehab. No chance to protest, instantly transported.

Plenty of excuses left: death in the family, no baby sitter, basement got flooded, house burnt down, ...

The transporter can be set in a way that it doesn't transport weapons

[raider5gt]

your afraid of Mr. T?


transporter for me, I hate driving in snow

No Mr T didn't like to fly "I aint getting on no plane fool"

We have had lots of snow here also not very good driving

[Riffster]

I would go for the transporter too,that means i won't have to ever go on a plane lol

Still have not been on one to this day (Mr T Phobia)

your afraid of Mr. T?


transporter for me, I hate driving in snow