Who else thinks "Star Trek" is going to stink ?

[Mikey]

Roddenberry is gone ...

The Classic Enterprise is unrecognizable

The crew are all new actors

The director never liked Star Trek

The word reimagined is everywhere.

It's the same old story.

Just another new movie butchering a classic and stealing it's name.

To me, this is no different then the thousand times this has already happened with other classic TV shows.

Look up to it all you want .......

Spock said -- HAVING is not as pleasing as wanting.

So enjoy this time before it's released.

Because when you do see it, you'll finally see it for what it really is

[EMCE Hammer]

[QUOTE=huedell;238718]

Are you serious? Apologies I couldn't tell.

If so, we have no common ground whatsoever.

(Even though my point still stands that it could go either way
with the Trek movie)

Just messing with you - couldn't resist. "When it's love........."

[jds1911a1]

[QUOTE=Azrak;238696]

Mike---this can go "Sammy Hagar"----OR it can go "Brian Johnson".

Exactly. It could be crappy, formulaic tripe like the Brian Johnson era of AC/DC, or it could be a classic that not only builds upon, but dare I say, surpasses the original like Van Hagar did.

ahh opinions
I always felt Brian Johnson as a decent continuty of Bon (of course since Bon died maybe I was more forgiving). I prefer DLR but just as many prefer Sammy - I think we can all agree the guy from Skid Row no one liked

I was going to equate it to when Judas Priest tried to replace Rob halford with the singer from British Steel (their cover band Band) as roughly immortalized in the marc wahlberg film Rock star. Not too many people lined up for that hence Halford came back

[huedell]

I don't think I should have brought up the analogy to begin with

[HardyGirl]

I think it will suck and the Trekkies will be disappointed. No, they don't have to let the franchise die, but there are other incarnations of Star Trek to make sequels of.The classic Star Trek was at it's best w/ the original actors of the TV series and movies. No one is going to recreate that magic no matter how hard they try. You could come up w/ a film w/ other characters w/ a starship and the same plot, and probably get the same results, but it just isn't true Trek.

I'm as Trekkie as they come, but I have NO interest in seeing this movie.

[HardyGirl]

I'll jump into your boat, T1K. I don't like the bad omen that surrounds the film. The first time I saw an image of the new Enterprise design online, I heard this snap sound and I looked over just in time to see my T1 Mego Capt Kirk fall in half. The elastic had broken and Mego Kirk was dead just like that.

You can't deny the omen. Megos never lead me astray.

Whoa! Definitely a sign!

[Nostalgiabuff]

hey, if it sucks, then this will be the end of Star Trek for the foreseeable future. If it is good then you can bet there will be sequels. The principal actors all signed contracts for at least 2. Hey maybe in the first sequel they can reimage Wrath of Kahn!!

just kidding

[Mikey]

Remember the classic Twilight Zone I Sing The Body Electric ?

I'm the kid that didn't want a fake grandma

Grandma is dead ... the only way to honor her is not forgetting her -- not replace her.

[EMCE Hammer]

[QUOTE=jds1911a1;238772]

ahh opinions
I always felt Brian Johnson as a decent continuty of Bon (of course since Bon died maybe I was more forgiving). I prefer DLR but just as many prefer Sammy - I think we can all agree the guy from Skid Row no one liked

I was going to equate it to when Judas Priest tried to replace Rob halford with the singer from British Steel (their cover band Band) as roughly immortalized in the marc wahlberg film Rock star. Not too many people lined up for that hence Halford came back

I was just messing with huedell - Brian Johnson is AOK in my book. Sammy's OK too, as long as he isn't out front for VH. You're thinking of Gary Cherone, from Extreme, not Sebastian Bach of Skid Row. All good singers, but there's only one DLR.......just like there's only one Captain Kirk until proven otherwise.

[huedell]

I was just messing with huedell - Brian Johnson is AOK in my book. Sammy's OK too, as long as he isn't out front for VH. You're thinking of Gary Cherone, from Extreme, not Sebastian Bach of Skid Row. All good singers, but there's only one DLR.......just like there's only one Captain Kirk until proven otherwise.

ACTUALLY...there's only one "William Shatner"...there can easily be
MANY Captain Kirks---see that's ONE of the differences here with
the Hagar/Roth and Scott/Johnson comparisons... comparisons that
I wish I never brought up to begin with as it's confusing the issue
as far as I'm concerned.

[Gorn Captain]

I'll jump into your boat, T1K. I don't like the bad omen that surrounds the film. The first time I saw an image of the new Enterprise design online, I heard this snap sound and I looked over just in time to see my T1 Mego Capt Kirk fall in half. The elastic had broken and Mego Kirk was dead just like that.

You can't deny the omen. Megos never lead me astray.

This is a matter of just getting better elastics, my friend.....

Though I have to admit, when the Fantastic Four movie came out, my Invisible Woman went grey-faced overnight......

[huedell]

ahh opinions...
I was going to equate it to when Judas Priest tried to replace Rob halford with the singer from British Steel (their cover band Band) as roughly immortalized in the marc wahlberg film Rock star. Not too many people lined up for that hence Halford came back

Shatner is too old to play Kirk in the movies at this point for anything
other than an elderly crew in space....which is not very feasible
plot-wise.

Bringing Halford back to Priest was much more feasible marketing-wise.

[huedell]

Though I have to admit, when the Fantastic Four movie came out, my Invisible Woman went grey-faced overnight......

Ya sure it wasn't "green-faced" (with envy)?

[ctc]

Hmmmm....

Looks like there's only one way to settle this; Mike and Hector into the circle, shirts off, cue dramatic music....

>part of what I enjoyed about TOS is the arguably poor special effects, cheap, fake looking sets

That's a big part of the problem for me. I wouldn't say the original was cheap or bad; they DID put a lot of effort into it, but that was 40+ years ago.... but there was a certain look about things in the old show. Partly by design, partly due to effects and materials technology of the time, partly 'cos of the prevaling design ethic of the day.... but there was a look. Losing that takes away a lot of the feel of the original setting. Yeah; the new ship is nice (albiet chubby looking) but it doesn't look like the original. It looks like the CURRENT ship designs.

This doesn't sit well with me since it shows a desire to capitalize on the Kirk/Spock name without accepting the limits of the setting. Usually that means a piecemeal film, with the KEWEL bits used out of context from the rest of the story....

>It's the same old story.

....which is what we usually end up with. I got no problem with prequels, or having different actors play the parts. I DO have a problem with watching the same story I've been watching for the last twenty years.

Don C.

[EMCE Hammer]

ACTUALLY...there's only one "William Shatner"...there can easily be
MANY Captain Kirks---see that's ONE of the differences here with
the Hagar/Roth and Scott/Johnson comparisons... comparisons that
I wish I never brought up to begin with as it's confusing the issue
as far as I'm concerned.

I knew what you meant, but you're much better at conveying your thoughts by the page. What I meant was that until someone else pulls it off, William Shatner is the only Captain Kirk for me. Until I see it, I'm assuming this is just prequel Kirkaoke. I want to like it, and I want it to be good, but I doubt it will be.