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"No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix -
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Oh man, that's all so wrong...... I wish the company of the Entertainment editing that new TOS style Star Trek starting over..... Also, the new Kirk wear a black shirt, he's supposed to wear the correct Captain Kirk's gold uniform...... why all BLACK????? All the crew supposed to be adults only, not the kids from high school....... like swoyerjay said.Last edited by Mr Mego; Oct 15, '08, 8:54 PM.Comment
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I am optimistic and open minded. Bring it on. . . .it isn't like DeForest Kelly. the Shat or Nimoy are about to give us new adventures. . . . .this looks kinda cool to me. . . and I would rather this bridge than the ENTERPRISE series one.
Lets give it a go . . . I can't wait!Comment
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I am optimistic and open minded. Bring it on. . . .it isn't like DeForest Kelly. the Shat or Nimoy are about to give us new adventures. . . . .this looks kinda cool to me. . . and I would rather this bridge than the ENTERPRISE series one.
Lets give it a go . . . I can't wait!
That's the spirt!!I want more Kirk & Spock stories...and Shat & Nimoy are too old.
So I intend to approach this Movie with an open Mind.
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I wish I was as optimistic as you guys, but I just can't accept a fake classic crew.
For me, classic Star Trek was a big part of my youth and still is today.
Asking me to except a fake Kirk and Spock is like asking me to accept some stranger who replaces one of my family members.
For me, it's just not gunna happen.Comment
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On the plus side, at least it’s not as basterdized as other recently re-imagined classic sci-fi shows.
I half expected them to change the genders and races of the characters around, have the Phasers shoot bullets, not have Spock have pointed ears or even be an alien because it wouldn’t be “edgy” or “realistic” enough for today’s modern audience.
Not to mention having Alexander Courage’s iconic Trek theme pounded out on bongos with kazoos as accompaniment.
I honestly feel lucky and surprised it’s as close to the classic series as it seems.
What gets me is the snubbing of Shatner. I feel it is disrespectful, no profane, not to have him involved when the movie so heavily focuses on Kirk.You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...Comment
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I feel the same way you do T1K. I've found a way around it though. Any Trek beyond the original series, animated series, and first six movies I dont include in my "real" Trek universe.
TNG and the rest happen in an alternate Trek reality (like DC's Earth one and two). This way, no matter how much they screw things up and around, it doesnt affect my interpretation of Classic (or Real) Star Trek. As far as I'm concerned this new movie series is completely seperate from the original series. The differences in continuity do bug me, but in the end...alternate universe...no big whoop.
Shatner, Nimoy, et al, and the universe they built stands far and above....and unaffected anything done nowadays.
In most of the new shows I've found myself a bigger fan of, and more interested by, the technology, rather than the characters anyways. I'm not talking the techno babble crap, but the ship designs, console lay outs, etc....For me, an all new, original bridge design is way more interesting than the cast.....although I hope they do pull this off with some dignity and honor and respect what has come before. Most remakes miss that last part (like Dukes of Hazzard, Starsky and Hutch, etc.)
It's all kinda weird maybe, but it works for me."Crayons taste like purple!"Comment
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>but the "Trek creative collective" (excuse the Borg implication!) is helming this
Are those the same folks responisble for Voyager, and Enterprise changing 35 years of back story in the first 5 minutes of the first episode?
I dunno.... I still think a lot of what made the original what it was came from WHEN it was made and accordingly it's impossible to recapture that. (Well.... not IMPOSSIBLE; but very unlikely.) Using the old crew in the old setting seems like a marketing thing more than a good idea. (Kirk and Spock are the names Trekkies respond to with Pavlovian obsessiveness. Which may end up sinking them, since the original actors are also closely tied to those names.) I would be MUCH more excited about a story in the original setting with a new crew. And a ship NOT called "Enterprise."
>TNG and the rest happen in an alternate Trek reality
I'd bet this is how the producers see it too; but they may not say it this way. It's a shame though; 35 years of back story is an awesome resource when creating a series. But NOBODY uses it! Every new series or movie seems to work really hard to distance itself from the old shows.
>an all new, original bridge design is way more interesting than the cast
That seems like a shame too; sinc eit's the characters that MAKE the story. Or SHOULD, anyhoo. Can't really dispute this point after the last couple of series. But it IS a shame. The crew should be more than the organic parts of the ship. (Interesting maybe; but it's hard to empathise with a control panel.)
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I totally understand how You feel...it's the Characters that they created that made the show so GREAT! And what J.J. is doing...is attempting the impossible! But I can't help hoping beyond hope, that He actually pulls it off...because I desperately want to see more Kirk & Spock adventures!
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I look at it two ways:
1) they can do this in the James Bond series, etc. change the times, actors, etc. and all seems OK. But the Bond a person likes, usually coincides with the first actor they saw play the part. (Well, maybe not one or two Bonds).
2) The actors who played the characters have made the part so iconic, it would be hard to see anyone else in the role. (looking elsewhere as an example: Caroll Channing in Hello, Dolly!) someone could play that character, but they will always be compared to the original.
My thoughts on this movie not being well done (to me, I'll point out. To someone else it may be what is needed) are the design changes to the clothing, ship, bridge, etc. The Enterprise is as much of a character in the script as actors. Change it too much, as it appears by the bridge photo and my mind has to accept not only new actors, but now their living space has changed. I've also seen unfortunately the more a "creator" decides to change an iconic element into their own vision, the more it veers from the thing a die-hard fan loved about the original piece.
Hopefully it is the alternate timeline approach. Maybe Leonard Nimoy is at the beginning of the movie surrounded by all of the familiar trek and then something happens to the timeline that shows us that "we are not in Kansas" anymore.
I know it was just a show in the late 60's, but it was a show that I obsessively likedIt's all good!Comment
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I want this to work, but that EW cover is horrible. They both look much better in the set photos though.
I am of the Kirk=Shat and Spock=Nimoy camp too, but eventually, Paramount was going to do this. They almost did it over 20 years ago. I just hope they do it right, and a new generation of Trek fans can enjoy it.
ChrisComment
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In the final analysis- its all about making money- not art-
Paramount is thinking about the franchise- period.
They want NEW fans to get hooked for the next 20 years.
Sure Nimoy's in there---for us fogies--- but their eyes are on the future dollar.
Re-makes of tv shows as movies and endless sequels are just more examples of
a lack of imagination in the movie buisness.
Television seems to have more creativity now. im seing better stuff on HBO and ABC
than in theatres.Comment
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