New movie Kirk and Spock pic.

[Gorn Captain]

Asking me to except a fake Kirk and Spock is like asking me to accept some stranger who replaces one of my family members.

I wish some of MY family members would be replaced by strangers.....

[Gorn Captain]

I'm willing to give it a shot.
With the exception of the lead actor (not a convincing look to me), I kind of like the line-up. It'll seem weird, I know, but heck, it's more exciting to me than the last Indy movie. At least with this one, we're out of the geriatric ward....

[Mikey]

The classic series --- God I hate saying that ....

Star Trek is too big of an institution to play with.

People nowadays treat Star Trek as just another series (the first series) in a line of star trek television series'

It's not .... it's way bigger then that.. but still, they're blind and think there's money to be made off it.

First,
Let's make a cartoon of it.
Second,
Let's make movies based on the show.
Third,
Let's make a "new series" and call it Star Trek the Next Generation.
Fourth,
Let's "remaster" Star Trek for DVD release.
Fifth,
Let's make new special effects and music for the old show.
Sixth,
Let's make a new movie of the old show
Seventh,
Let's put the new movie actor's faces over the old show actor's faces.... while we're at it, let's put the new movie Enterprise in the old show.
Eighth,
Let's edit the old show -- perhaps we could make new stories.
Nineth,
Let's make a new-new movie of the newly edited old show.
Tenth,
See "seventh".

The old show is no more.
And us fans are the blame for letting it happen one step at a time.

[Nostalgiabuff]

I think Paramount is on the right track. They finally realized the fans don't want new characters and new ships. They want Kirk and Spock. But not geriatric versions. Their only hope of refreshing the franchise was to go back to basics....and that meant new actors taking over iconic roles. I am completely open minded about this. It is the only chance we have of ever getting new adventures on the screen with these classic characters. I believe the actors all signed contracts for 2 sequels so if this movie works they will be making more. There has not been any new Trek in several years, the last movie tanked(for good reason) and Enterprise was week at best. They need to get this right or Trek is dead.

[ctc]

>They want NEW fans to get hooked for the next 20 years.

Well.... sort of. They want new fans to be hooked, sure; but they want to do it by capitalizing on name recognition from the old. It's a self-defeating strategy: you want something new and shiney that'll appeal to the current audience, but to get there you mine the old for it's recognizability and invariably bring along a LOT of baggage.

"Old-fashioned but new!" Mylar was SUCH a weasel....

>People nowadays treat Star Trek as just another series (the first series) in a line of star trek television series'

Wow. You sure take this stuff seriously! I agree with you; but the sad fact is that audiences (as a collective) outgrow stuff. It'd be impossible for a new viewer to see the old show the same way we did when it was first aired. The templates and environment for the audience have changed. The reason the space hippie episode doesn't age so well is that there are no hippies any more. They seem like weirdos 'cos a new viewer doesn't have any context to take them from. (Now, make 'em whiney emo-kids and a younger viewer would probably get it. And, no I'm not suggesting Paramount redub the episode with CGI emo-kids....) Kirk kissing Uhura wouldn't even register with most people these days, even though it freaked a lot of folks out during the original run. Even Chekov was freaky to the original audience. A RUSSIAN?!?! Egads! Nowadays he seems really.... harmless.

There's nothing you can do about this; even though Paramount is desperately trying, what with all the re-edits and all. BUT you COULD do a COMPLETELY NEW story in that setting which would resonate with a new audience. IF you weren't so hung up with pandering to the fan base. Which Paramount IS. The Trek setting, in ANY of it's timelines, is detailed enough that you could do damned near anything. But nobody does.

"Show more Klingons! Kids like Klingons!!!"

>The Enterprise is as much of a character in the script as actors.

See; THAT'S part of the setting. The original established a certain look to things like the ships. Why change that? To make it conform with the current "correct" way of doing things of course; but story-wise there's no reason to bother. You can produce a much more detailed rendering of the ships WITHOUT modifying the designs. The Japanese do it all the time. (The RX-78 Gundam has looked EXACTLY THE SAME for almost 30 years, wether it's a model, cartoon, or super-real cgi feature....)

Don C.

[johnmiic]

I have this link as well if it has not been posted yet:

New Star Trek Images! | Filmonic

I'll see this film when it comes out. I can't tell from stills if it will be good or not. I'll just try to avoid opening day crowds. I noticed the colors of the unforms are darker-more serious looking instead of the usual bright, cheerful colors.

[starsky]

did you guys know that the new kirk is the son of robert pine, the guy who played Sarge on CHIPS?

[AJJ]

I'm waiting to see the first non-teaser trailer before I decide if I want to see this movie.

As for the pictures they look very interesting.

[miguet]

The bridge looks like the Apple Store in San Francisco. "Can I get a Genius to look at my laptop? And an espresso?"

[EMCE Hammer]

I wish they would have just gone with the original ship designs, with just a slight tweaking. It's impossible for me to get nostalgic with a bunch of different people in different ships with the same names. When Relics aired, I thought the bridge from the original series held up just fine. This new thing is just another space movie to me - I'm not feeling the connection at all. I would have been more willing to give the new group a chance if everything else had stayed true to the original.

[Sideshow Spock]

The Entertainment Weekly cover story is up:

'Star Trek' movie: Inside scoop! | Star Trek | Cover Story | Movies | Entertainment Weekly | 1

..and very interesting, I thought.

WARNING:The article does discuss some plot points and scenes.

[phil]

Since when does Kirk have blue eyes?

I'm not impressed with the premise of the movie. It seems, to me anyway,
far too convient that the regular characters from the original series first met
when they were younger. I don't buy it.

I'm also not too sure about seeing the movie. I understand Paramounts motives but I don't have to agree with them.

[Mikey]

at heart, Abrams is still more of a Star Wars guy. ''All my smart friends liked Star Trek,'' he says. ''I preferred a more visceral experience.''

Several years ago, Abrams wrote a Superman script that radically revised the entire Man of Steel 
 mythology. ''It was not well received by the Internet community,

Abrams made his perspective clear: ''We weren't making a movie for fans of Star Trek,'' he said. ''We were making a movie for fans of movies.


Oh, brother

[AUSSIE-Rebooted-AMM]

I'm going to give it a chance.

But if Vulcans have no emotions why is Spock choking Kirk? He looks angry, which is an emotion as I recall.

Pon Farr is every 7 years . . .and this might be 7 years before Amok Time? He tried to kill Kirk then too!

Also Spoc was exploring his human side with emotions in his time of the Enterprise with Captain Pike, as in the original Pilot the Cage and rehashed in the Menagerie. If this is a pre-quel to the TV series 5 year mission. . . then the emotions fit right in.

[Captain]

I wish they would have just gone with the original ship designs, with just a slight tweaking. It's impossible for me to get nostalgic with a bunch of different people in different ships with the same names. When Relics aired, I thought the bridge from the original series held up just fine. This new thing is just another space movie to me - I'm not feeling the connection at all. I would have been more willing to give the new group a chance if everything else had stayed true to the original.

I felt this way at first too. Now...I kinda hope they do go nuts with the designs. As I mentioned before, I dont see this as an actual link to the original Trek, but as something else. .....I'm starting to see CTC's point about doing something else in the same era. At the same time I agree with Bat, I want more Kirk and the gang stories. If I cant get them from the original cast, I hope these kids can pull it off, and help satiate that want.