How did Star Trek Voyager last 7 seasons ?

[wolfie]

Well i liked it, there i've said it.

I will add though that i did not watch every episode every week, i only saw an episode now and again so i guess it was allways fresh to me.

[garagesale]

Weakest of all the Trek shows, for sure. However, I liked some things about it. Janeway was, indeed, nice to look at. However, it was 7 of 9 that gave the show a real lift (I know she gave me one!). In many ways, I feel 7of9 is the most interesting Trek character ever! I watched the show on and off during its 7 year run.


JamesD

[Mikey]

Even though I didn't like the show before 7 of 9, I think after she was brought in was when the show really jumped the shark.

Bringing in a "babe" for the viewers to drool over is something that had to have been thought up at an executive board meeting.

I can almost hear that meeting now .....

This show is really going down hill .... Idea !!!!! .... Trek fans are all geeks with no girlfriends , right ? .... Let's bring in a big boobed babe .... They'll love it .... Story lines ? .... They wont even care... They'll be more worried about seeing her gigantic jugs every week

Unfortunetely, their scheme worked.
Most people that like Voyager talk about how sexy 7 of 9 is.
They couldn't care less about the stories.

[david_b]

Yes, despite the '7of9' jokes, the show was clearly rectifying it's creative shortcomings when her character was added. Remember, same faltering of interest was apparent when they added Worf on DS9... 'Course Gene added Chekov for similar ratings potential...

The first few years of Voyager did hold my interest, but as most of you will attest, don't underestimate the reality of that being when the FRANCHISE was in full swing, remember..? Figures after figures stocking entire aisles, people were buying them up like beanie babies to keep them MIB, all the variants, skycap inserts, early 'starfleet academy' figures, conventions, etc. It was a huge, buldging beast, all of it. Riding on the crest of it was the new network (UPN), more expensive conventions, etc.

Once the 'crest' was ridden, shark-jumping-wise, interest waned terribly on all fronts, which is why Enterprise was not well-timed at all. Applause for it's inception and intent, but it had a bit stacked against it.

I always liked Next Gen, but come it's 5th/6th season, it was basically on auto-pilot as it's creative juices moved over to DS9, and it showed..! I thought DS9 got too wrapped into it's subplots after a bit. Voyager definitely had it's wonderful moments, and some strong characters (Chakotay was pretty cool..), but as with the other sister offerings (NG, DS9, and Enterprise) it's final years were a shadow of it's earlier creativity.

I do recall Berman wanting Janeway to recall a lot of Shatner/Kirk 'bravado' initially, cowboy diplomacy you could call it, but after several eps of 'negotiating with the Borg', that fell flat.

[censy]

I didn't watch past the first season and I was a rabid trekkie (trekker, whatever).

Chris

[Gorn Captain]

It started out so well, with the conflict between Chakotay's group and Starfleet.
Then after about three episodes, they all loved each other, Chakotay forgot he was Native American, Torrez forgot she was half Klingon, and it took Seven's cleavage and her Spock/Data routine to put just a little excitement in it.
Tuvok was boring, Janeway was the greatest disappointment as the first female captain (boring! annoying!).
This is the only Trek show I stopped watching...

[johnmiic]

I liked ST-Voyager. Still the people who produced it hobbled it early on. Adding Seven of Nine helped some but the show was really the Gilligan's Island plot for 7 years; You mean you can co-opt a 29th century holo-emitter so the Dr. can walk around the ship but you can't find a wormhole that will get you home?

[Riffster]

um...Jeri Ryan... reason enough for me

[Mikey]

I was never a big fan of Jeri Ryan

Take away her fake jugs, and you'll be forced to look at her face -- she's not all that pretty.

[mitchedwards]

Loved voyager, and until Spike pulled it, I was watching it every afternoon

[ctc]

>Trek fans are all geeks with no girlfriends , right ? .... Let's bring in a big boobed babe ....

HAW! I suspect you're right, especially when you see how... pronounced... they were with the second costume.

I couldn't watch it when it first aired; it was REALLY boring, but I watched it last year beginnign to end. (It was on when I got up for work.) And I gotta say the show was a near miss. They had a lot of good ideas, but they didn't carry through with any of them. So.... half the crew is Starfleet half terrorists; and the conflict lasts exactly an episode and a half? And Paris is the cocky rebel guy for.... I dunno if he ever really WAS. we were TOLD that (and he was in Starfleet Prision at the beginning) but he never really did anything rebellious. McCoy was a bigger rebel!

It didn't help that the characters were all functional; they served a purpose plot-wise but were never really characters. Janeway was the worst, since she had whatever skill or talent was needed for the crew to win. She could fly a shuttle, fix the engines, rebuild an alien society, and even helped the doc with an operation in one episode! And we were never shown if she was an uber-mind, or if it was bad writing. Even if some of the crew was surprised by her skill at some point, it woulda let us know how to take her.

And when they DID start getting into characters (in the last few seasons) the character stuff never went anywhere. Like when Neelix died and the afterlife wasn't what he'd expected. By the end of the episode he STILL hadn't resolved how he felt, and it all went away. Or when Chakotay and 6 of 9 hooked up. It came out of nowhere, for no real reason.

On the upside, the kid wasn't irritating. She was smart, but still a kid. (Like how she'd send the captain her reports every week; and the crew was laughing 'cos she was trying, but they were completely wrong. If that was Wesley they'd follow the correct format, have ways to rewire the ship and advance the tech level every week, AND still be ignored by the crew.)

All told, it always seemed like they were trying to hard, and for doing so missed the mark.

Don C.

[Mikey]

One of my least liked characters on Voyager was Janeway herself.

She just didn't seem like a Star Fleet captain.
She seemed more like an office person at the pentagon -- like Kirk would say, a chair bound paper-pusher.

She was all about regulations and duty -- which is usually the sign of someone who don't know what it's like to be out IN THE FIELD.

If Kirk was out there .... in less then a year, he'd have forgotten all about Starfleet.

I think Janeway's character was written very poorly.

[Hector]

I was never a big fan of Jeri Ryan

Take away her fake jugs, and you'll be forced to look at her face -- she's not all that pretty.

You are nuts, lol.

[Hector]

Weakest of all the Trek shows, for sure.

The weakest by far was Enterprise...come on now.

[Mr Mego]

You're too funny all about that guys.

Voyager is half suck but when my TV guide don't have speical shows that make me borning, so I picked that 1 left and watching it. I like the Enterprise and DS9 are good but I like TOS and TNG are the best in my book.