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  • Meule
    Verbose Member
    • Nov 14, 2004
    • 28720

    #31
    Too difficult to choose, I love 'em both

    Originally posted by ctc
    Hammer for boobs.
    This is a pretty strong point tho
    "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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    • Meule
      Verbose Member
      • Nov 14, 2004
      • 28720

      #32
      Even in my customs I can't choose

      "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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      • PNGwynne
        Master of Fowl Play
        • Jun 5, 2008
        • 19955

        #33
        ^Hey--you've Teenage Frankenstein in there, too! Cool!!!
        WANTED: Dick Grayson SI trousers; gray AJ Mustang horse; vintage RC Batman (Bruce Wayne) head; minty Wolfman tights; mint Black Knight sword; minty Launcelot boots; Lion Rock (pale) Dracula & Mummy heads; Lion Rock Franky squared boots; Wayne Foundation blue furniture; Flash Gordon/Ming (10") unbroken holsters; CHiPs gloved arms; POTA T2 tan body; CTVT/vintage Friar Tuck robes, BBP TZ Burgess Meredith glasses.

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        • Mr.Krusher
          Banned
          • Oct 25, 2010
          • 569

          #34
          Meule - I'm floored sir....WOW! Brilliant usage of the Neptunian's hands and feet...when I got my Neptunian in the mail, thats the FIRST thing that I thought of - Creature custom!

          WHY is the only Creature from that era so damned hard to find?? ....Its not fair ...

          Did someone else OTHER than Azrak make a Creature? (I almost got the jiggler, one of my favorite toys of all time, but the bidding approached $50...)

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          • lepage
            The Ape General
            • Aug 12, 2001
            • 4056

            #35
            Originally posted by PNGwynne
            ^Hey--you've Teenage Frankenstein in there, too! Cool!!!
            Yeah I thought that would be a great figure to make. Would anyone else dig one of those?

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            • lepage
              The Ape General
              • Aug 12, 2001
              • 4056

              #36
              Originally posted by Mr.Krusher
              Hammer for me please, without a second thought. Lee and Cushing are unmatched, and the Prowse version of Frankenstein's Monster is FAR more effective than the Karloff version, in my humble opinion.

              Though there is ONE Monster from Universal's stable that I prefer over ALL others though:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE1dEoaLthw

              (Watch all of these if you are a fan...very cool documentary...)

              I am with you!

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              • lepage
                The Ape General
                • Aug 12, 2001
                • 4056

                #37
                Originally posted by wolfie
                Did Hammer actually have any monsters? The films were updated versions of the Universal films and monsters from other studios.

                I'm trying to think of a monster that Hammer invented for it's films.
                It sounds like your saying Universal invented those characters!? I think it is nieve to believe that had Universal not made those films that no one else eventually would have. They are after all based on classic literature.

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                • Gorn Captain
                  Invincible Ironing Man
                  • Feb 28, 2008
                  • 10549

                  #38
                  Originally posted by lepage
                  It sounds like your saying Universal invented those characters!? I think it is nieve to believe that had Universal not made those films that no one else eventually would have. They are after all based on classic literature.
                  True, and there were versions previous to the Universals, like Edison's Frankenstein. I love the Universals versions, but some others were just as good.
                  I disagree that Hammer just updated Universal, because the make-ups were totally different, and the original source material dates back well before Universal (and all the way into mythology and folk lore). Curse of the Werewolf had a totally different story line, for example.
                  And Hammer had some superior actors on board: Cushing and Lee were excellent.

                  Some of our more recent versions, like Coppola's Dracula and the recent Wolfman with Del Toro were good, too, so there's hope that we'll still have new "takes" on the genre in the works....

                  Now if only someone could nuke those Twilight abominations....
                  Last edited by Gorn Captain; Jan 7, '11, 8:10 AM.
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                  "When things are at their darkest, it's a brave man that can kick back and party."

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                  • HardyGirl
                    Mego Museum's Poster Girl
                    • Apr 3, 2007
                    • 13950

                    #39
                    I like the Universal Monsters as well!
                    "Do you believe, you believe in magic?
                    'Cos I believe, I believe that I do,
                    Yes, I can see I believe that it's magic
                    If your mission is magic your love will shine true."

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                    • Meule
                      Verbose Member
                      • Nov 14, 2004
                      • 28720

                      #40
                      Originally posted by wolfie
                      Did Hammer actually have any monsters? The films were updated versions of the Universal films and monsters from other studios.

                      I'm trying to think of a monster that Hammer invented for it's films.
                      If you only take Frankenstein, Dracula, the Mummy and the Wolfman into account, then NO, Hammer didn't "invent" any monsters. But neither did Universal.
                      There was a Frankenstein movie in 1910, Nosferatu (first Dracula movie) was released in 1922, Phantom of the Opera (1925), Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1920) and The Werewolf (1913).

                      Hammer did however come up with The Reptile and Countess Dracula
                      "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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                      • The Toyroom
                        The Packaging King
                        • Dec 31, 2004
                        • 16653

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Meule
                        Hammer did however come up with The Reptile and Countess Dracula
                        But Universal had Dracula's Daughter and Son of Dracula
                        Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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                        • Meule
                          Verbose Member
                          • Nov 14, 2004
                          • 28720

                          #42
                          Originally posted by The Toyroom
                          But Universal had Dracula's Daughter and Son of Dracula
                          But they didn't have Ingrid Pitt
                          "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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                          • Earth 2 Chris
                            Verbose Member
                            • Mar 7, 2004
                            • 32981

                            #43
                            I think Carmilla was adapted before Hammer did "The Vampire Lovers", but I've never seen it.

                            Hammer definitely did a lot for Van Helsing. Peter Cushing made him a compelling hero, not just a wise old man with a thick accent.

                            Chris
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                            • PNGwynne
                              Master of Fowl Play
                              • Jun 5, 2008
                              • 19955

                              #44
                              Yeah, Cushing's Van Helsing & Baron Frankenstein are a lot more compelling than Hammer's Dracula or any monster creation. Maybe it was just Cushing...

                              I'm no Lee-hater (his Monster has pathos, Kharis is great, and Duc de Richlieu-whew!), but Drac is so one-dimensional. An exciting novelty in the first film, but 1-D.

                              FVH's Ferdy Mayne, Willman's coldly autocratic cultist Ravna, and even the creepily fey Baron Meister are more interesting.
                              WANTED: Dick Grayson SI trousers; gray AJ Mustang horse; vintage RC Batman (Bruce Wayne) head; minty Wolfman tights; mint Black Knight sword; minty Launcelot boots; Lion Rock (pale) Dracula & Mummy heads; Lion Rock Franky squared boots; Wayne Foundation blue furniture; Flash Gordon/Ming (10") unbroken holsters; CHiPs gloved arms; POTA T2 tan body; CTVT/vintage Friar Tuck robes, BBP TZ Burgess Meredith glasses.

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                              • Werewolf
                                Inhuman
                                • Jul 14, 2003
                                • 14978

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Meule
                                Phantom of the Opera (1925),
                                That was Universal.
                                You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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