Do You Believe in Ghosts?

[JPkempo]

IMP - did you check your cell phone to see if it called your house? Most will show your recent calls.

[toys2cool]

I do,

Since I was a little kid I always saw stuff around the house and so did my mom

I still do from time to time I just pretend that i don't

[monkey tennis]

Ghost on London Underground...Including Winston Churchill's Ghost ????

http://www.paranormaldatabase.com/re...nderground.php

[toys2cool]

That's some scary stuff man

[monkey tennis]

That's some scary stuff man

It makes night shifts interesting.

[darklord1967]

Wow!! GREAT GREAT TOPIC!!

Do I believe?

Simply put: Emphatically YES!!!

It's really simple: History proves repeatedly that the world of the "paranormal" is often nothing more than just the world the defies scientific explanation or study. That does not mean that it does NOT exist.

It is the human tendency to label anything that is not scientifically explained as "fantastic" or "superstition".

But there have been far too many documented case evidence studies on virtually all the phenomena mentioned in this thread to suggest that everyone who has experienced them is a "crackpot" or crazy.

Furthermore there have been far too many reputable, responsible, sober individuals making these observations and reports. I'm talking about clergymen, law-enforcement officers, trained naval and commercial pilots, you name it.

MYTHICAL BEASTS: Are Bigfoot the Lochness Monster, or the Chupacabra mythical, paranormal, vampiric, beasts or simply highly elusive creatures that have yet to be captured and scientifically studied? Well, judging by the incredible numbers of species living on this planet that have yet to even be seen, much less studied, I'd judge them to likely be the latter and most definitely real. Too many people have seen them for them to be simply a figment of someone's imagination.

Don't forget, the giant panda bear was only first "discovered" in Asia about 140 years ago. Before that, it too was considered a "mythical" beast thought to be the delusions of "crazy" people.


GHOSTS and HAUNTING In my view, this phenomenon is all too real. There are more than enough documented cases of genuine hauntings, poltergiests, and demonic infestations to dismiss them as "hysterics". Furthermore, a growing number of these cases are being looked at and measured scientifically by paranormal investigators.

But scientifically-speaking what IS a ghost, apparition, or "haunting"? Well it is believed that the human brain's electro-magnetic impulses are not destroyed even after an individual's death. There is strong evidence that suggests that those impulses make up a large part of who we each are (wants, desires, hates, loves, passions, angers, joys, etc.) If particularly STRONG brain impulses could somehow be electromagnetically "recorded" at a given site /location after our death, it is postulated that given the proper naturally-occurring electromagnetic circumstances that they could "play-back" and actually be visible. This is probably why locations of violent death are often thought to be (and documented to be) "haunted". Those strong, electromagnetically imprinted impulses randomly play back and scare the hell out of a casual observer in the form of an aparition / ghost.

It should be noted that scientific distinctions are being made between ghost/apparitions (who appear visually and seem to go about their business OBLIVIOUS to an outside observer... just like a recording) and SPIRITS who are thought to be decesed, disembodied individuals who's actual conciousness remains locked at a given location or surrounding a particular living individual.

Poltergiests are usually emotionally-charged spirits who typically draw on thermal energy in order to physically move objects about and make noises to let their presense be known. This is why the presense of a poltergiest is usually accompanied by a "cold spot" or pervasive chill at the location.

UFO's / ALIEN VISITATIONS: It is the height of human arrogance to believe that in the vastness of the whole of the universe, the only planet containing sentient, intelligent life is Earth, and WE are it!

Far too much evidence suggests that highly-advanced extra-terrestrial visitors have been coming to this planet for THOUSANDS of years. They have visited this planet in craft that utilize a technology that literally allows them to travel incredible distances in a reasonable amount of time. This suggests that they have somehow mastered the ability to travel fourth-dimensionally through warped or "bent" space-time. Countless numbers of these craft have been observed in our skies, and deep in our oceans by individuals from all walks of life including one modern US President. These alien visitors have studied and interracted with the human race through abductions and up-close secret observation for an incredibly long time.

More importantly, ample evidence suggests that the major governments of the world are aware of these visitations and the fact that they continue to this day thoughout the world. They have hidden these facts from the public for decades, engaging in mis-information and de-bunking campaigns routinely. Government funding has been diverted and entire government study groups have been formed to study this phenomena that they claim does NOT exist. Project Blue Book just to name ONE.

I have no doubt that a significant percentage of "Close Encounter" cases are observatons of experimental military craft developed by various world governments. I also have no doubt that a fair number of insane individuals have let their imaginations get the beter of them.

However, once you separate out those two types of close encounter observations from the vast number of case studies accumilated since just the late 1940's, and when you consider the characteristics and areal acrobatics performed by these craft that simply defy physics (completely silent, sharp perfect right-turns in mid-air at incredibly high speeds) what you have left over is a HEAVILY documented phenomena that is very real and un-deniable.

When you throw in the observations of pre-historic man in their writtings and cave -wall artwork depicting and describing flaming circular "charriots" decending from the skies piloted by large-headed beings with large "all-seeing" eyes... I think the truth is pretty plain to see.

Sckeptics may call me nuts, and that's okay. I've never really been one to care about what people think of me.

But I just believe that a greater stretch in LOGIC must be made to dismiss, debunk, and explain away ALL of these paranormal events as "paranoia" than to look at them for what they likely are: genuine encounters with the world of the un-known.

[Vortigern99]

Of course "UFOs" are real: Unidentified Flying Objects. People see them all the time. I've seen a few myself. It doesn't mean they're alien spacecraft, or any other explanation that involves the supernatural or extraterrestrial. With all of the aircraft, satellities, weather balloons, and covert military operations going on in the skies above us, it's a wonder there aren't more documented cases.

EDIT: I do not suggest that we are the only planet in the universe on which life has evolved; far from it. But given the vast distances involved, and the Einsteinian principles that dictate we cannot move anywhere near the speed of light (at which rate even the closest star would be 2 light years of travel away), it is extremely improbable that extraterrestrial beings could visit our world, and vice versa. I do not say impossible, but in the absence of real evidence (apart from personal anecdotes, which can be mistaken, misapprehended or outright hoaxes and are not scientifically valid), it's more probable to conclude that some terrestrial phenomenon is occurring in any given instance rather than extraterrestrial.

[HardyGirl]

Spirits, yes. Ghosts, no. The difference is, one is the essence of who we are, and the other is something someone made up to scare people. I don't believe that they go wandering the Earth searching for closure like on "Ghost Whisperer", although that makes for great entertainment.

[SUP-Ronin]

As long as they don't wander the earth looking for Me, I am not too worried about .

[Vortigern99]

I agree with Hardy Girl. I have yet to see anything on any TV show, photograph or youtube video that constitiutes real evidence of ghostly phenomena. Photographic double images, the brain's tendency to see patterns where none exist, and obvious hoaxing explain every piece of film or video ever put forward.

[darklord1967]

Of course "UFOs" are real: Unidentified Flying Objects. People see them all the time. I've seen a few myself. It doesn't mean they're alien spacecraft, or any other explanation that involves the supernatural or extraterrestrial. With all of the aircraft, satellities, weather balloons, and covert military operations going on in the skies above us, it's a wonder there aren't more documented cases.

There were no earth-based "... aircraft, satellities, weather balloons, and covert military operations..." during the ancient time of the Mayans or Mesopitamians. Yet through cave drawings and historical writings, they depict strange craft in their skies and un-usual looking beings piloting them.

There were also no "... aircraft, satellities, weather balloons, and covert military operations..." in our skies during the time of Cristopher Columbus' journey to the "New World". Yet his ship's logs are FULL of documented encounters with "circular, saucer-shaped" lights buzzing the skies above his ships during his voyage.

Its like I said, I don't doubt you're right that some of these close-encounter observations have an Earthly explanation. But not all of them. And too many people throughout the WORLD have told the EXACT same stories about encounters with highly intelligent beings that ARE NOT HUMAN. Too many people throughout the world have had stange markings left on their bodies after proported medical examinations. Too many people have had identical metallic implants left embedded in their nasal cavities or eye sockets.

Do some research on-line. You'll be shocked by what you find when you dig deep.

Look up the cases of abductees Betty and Barney Hill or mountain logger Travis Walton from Snowflake Az.

Read up on the case of police officer Lonnie Zamora.

I'm telling you, it can't ALL be a figment of someone's imagination, or mis-identified phenomena.

[megoscott]

Sorry, I should say my dad saw a flying saucer when he was a kid...in Roswell.

[Sideshow Spock]

It can't?

[darklord1967]

I do not suggest that we are the only planet in the universe on which life has evolved; far from it. But given the vast distances involved, and the Einsteinian principles that dictate we cannot move anywhere near the speed of light (at which rate even the closest star would be 2 light years of travel away), it is extremely improbable that extraterrestrial beings could visit our world, and vice versa.

Not if those extra-terrestrial beings were advanced enough to develop a form of propulsion that does NOT travel through space in a linear way.

Yes, the closest star IS two light years away traveling at the (scientifically accepted) impossible speed of light.

However, if a race of beings were so advanced as to harness tremendous amounts of energy that they could actually compress space/time 4th dimensionally, then they could travel through this warped/bent realm at a conventional speed and arrive at their destination in a reasonable amount of time. It would sort of be like riding a wave on a surfboard.

Scientists have been looking at these implications for YEARS and have determined them to be scientifically FEASIBLE given the correct amount of energy and electro-magnetic control. It IS possible. However it is only un-likely at OUR current technological level of understanding.

I highly recommend the writtings of noted physicist and Columbia U instructor Jeanne Cavalos.

[Vortigern99]

Good heavens, I've been resarching this topic since the late 70s. I'm just drawing different conclusions from you. There have been celestial phenomena -- meteor showers, comets, lunar and solar eclipses -- since ancient times, thousands of years before human beings had developed the scientific principles (Gallilean astronomy, Newtonian physics) and technologies (telescopes, an accurate model of the solar system) to understand what they were seeing, much less depict it realistically on a cave painting or a stone carving. Why should we conclude that what the Mayans, Mesopotamians and Columbian explorers saw were alien spacecraft? Ancient peoples also had stories of giants and dragons forming the world from their body parts, and heroes flying on winged sandals: should we credit these, too, as tales of extraterrestrial intervention in human affairs? Where does it end? Are all tales of gods and fantastic deeds actually stories of alien escapades in disguise -- or just some of them? Who decides which myths and legends are "really" about aliens visiting the earth, and which are the products of the human psyche searching for answers to the mysteries of creation and astronomical phenomena? It seems to me that folklorists and mythologists have a far better understanding of these matters than UFO enthusiasts and paranormal researchers, and their conclusions do not bear out such imaginative speculations.

As to modern accounts of alien abduction, I've read many. I've also exprerienced the state between dream and wakefulness, when one's limbs are paralyzed inside the dream but one can see the surrounding room in real life, and shades and figures of nightmare emerge from the otherwise real walls, shapes and shadows. This is a real physiological event, documented many times in sleep laboratories, which seizes the mind in the interim between dream and reality. It explains probably 90% of alien abduction stories. The other 10% or so is outright hoaxing, wild tales bent on attention and following in the mold of the stories that have come before it and that have been presented in the media. Anecdotal evidence is not scientific evidence. You are welcome to accept it in your own search to grasp the world around you, but it cannot be accepted ina scientific study because it is prone to error, misapprehension and fraud.