O.J. Made in America

[megomania]

Do yourself a favor and watch the 5-part ESPN films series on O.J.

Fascinating stuff. Lots of history not only about The Juice's early days but Southern California (not just the school) in general.

I had no idea he started seeing Nicole Simpson when she was 18 and he was still married with two young kids.

Just started part 2 and may be up all night watching part 3 as well.

-Chris

[EmergencyIan]

I agree. It's very good. In my opinion, it's the best doc that has been produced on this subject.

- Ian

[TrekStar]

It's pretty sad that 2 people were murdered and the person(s) responsible are still running free, so I guess
we're never going to find out what truely happened, so let's make a five part documentary about the person
who was a #1 suspect on his personal life and heroic playing days. Heck I always believed it was O.J. son who
did it, big strong man with a ten cent brain, and O.J. threw suspicion on himself. I really believe Simpson knows
what really happened and will never tell, and that makes him just as guilty, and as far as the bloody glove,
a smaller size glove could have been easily placed there to throw off suspicion, JMO

[MIB41]

I've always felt since day one that his friend, Al Cowlings, was the killer. That guy had the ability and the kind of loyalty I have never seen ANYONE offer Simpson. Plus he was the one guy who drove Simpson on the infamous white Bronco "chase". Why would anyone place themselves in that kind of position unless they had intimate involvement in the murder? I believe Simpson was there to mock her and to watch, but he was not physically capable of doing it himself.

[megomania]

It's pretty sad that 2 people were murdered and the person(s) responsible are still running free, so I guess we're never going to find out what truely happened, so let's make a five part documentary about the person who was a #1 suspect on his personal life and heroic playing days. Heck I always believed it was O.J. son who did it, big strong man with a ten cent brain, and O.J. threw suspicion on himself. I really believe Simpson knows what really happened and will never tell, and that makes him just as guilty, and as far as the bloody glove, a smaller size glove could have been easily placed there to throw off suspicion, JMO

You should watch it before casting aspersions about it "glorifying" him totally. He was probably the greatest college RB ever and that can never be taken away. He also ran for 2k yds in the NFL in 14 games. Those things happened long before he became crazy.

If you know anything about his past you know he was not liked by the black community, never stood up for black athletes the way Ali, Jim Brown, Alcindor (all guys he played in the same era with) etc did. He basically considered himself white which is why he insulated himself in Brentwood, CA one of the whitest neighborhoods in the country.

This documentary does not glorify O.J. It delves very deeply into his psyche and shows just how crazy he was.

But he was also THE #1 celeb of the late 60s thru the mid-eighties. The top ad pitch man, spokesperson, actor. In a white world.

[megomania]

I've always felt since day one that his friend, Al Cowlings, was the killer. That guy had the ability and the kind of loyalty I have never seen ANYONE offer Simpson. Plus he was the one guy who drove Simpson on the infamous white Bronco "chase". Why would anyone place themselves in that kind of position unless they had intimate involvement in the murder? I believe Simpson was there to mock her and to watch, but he was not physically capable of doing it himself.

O.J. beat the hell out of Nicole multiple times. He was capable.

[MIB41]

O.J. beat the hell out of Nicole multiple times. He was capable.

Ron Goldman was a experienced black belt. You don't handle someone like that and get out that clean unless you're skilled and capable. OJ handling an intimidated Nicole and being surprised by a black belt are two different worlds. But don't let that difference of opinion color your perception of my feelings on the matter. I think OJ was absolutely responsible. But he had help. I think autopsy evidence clearly shows that.

[Sideshow Spock]

It's pretty sad that 2 people were murdered and the person(s) responsible are still running free

Simpson has been in prison since 2008 after being convicted on robbery, kidnapping, and other charges.

[Hector]

Ron Goldman was a experienced black belt. You don't handle someone like that and get out that clean unless you're skilled and capable. OJ handling an intimidated Nicole and being surprised by a black belt are two different worlds. But don't let that difference of opinion color your perception of my feelings on the matter. I think OJ was absolutely responsible. But he had help. I think autopsy evidence clearly shows that.

I agree with you...it took more than one to murder Nicole and Ron.

[Hector]

Seen two parts so far...fascinating stuff...great documentary.

It's almost like a Ken Burns production...amazing to see all that footage. This was a monumental undertaking.

[megomania]

I agree with you...it took more than one to murder Nicole and Ron.

I don't know....when someone is a raging madman - particularly a former pro football player - full of hate and venom I could see Simpson doing this by himself. Especially if he had been stalking them and was able to surprise them.

We'll probably never know though

[bmattioli]

I do not watch too much on TV other than sports but this series has me hooked.. Very interesting stuff..

[mego maniac mark]

This is an excellent , well made documentary. It is sad that the race card was played in the trial. However the documentary does an amazing job of building the history of the unfortunate circumstances that the black community in LA has endured from the LAPD over the years. The culmination of the Rodney King beating led to the acquittal of OJ.
OJ himself , who couldn't have distanced himself further away from the black community in his younger years , would embrace his heritage at the most opportune time in history.
There is more than likely no doubt based on the evidence he is guilty. His law team was brilliant, working the system to their advantage and getting an acquittal for a guilty man.
Sadly lost in it all are two people brutally murdered. They are the victims not only of a heinous crime, but are the victims of the long injustices of the LAPD's inexcusable treatment of blacks for decades.
OJ said himself, " I'm not black, I'm OJ". He wanted nothing to do with those injustices when he was in his prime. Ironically , he embraced his heritage after his acquittal. One of the most tragic American stories ever , IMO.

[huedell]

This is an excellent , well made documentary. It is sad that the race card was played in the trial. However the documentary does an amazing job of building the history of the unfortunate circumstances that the black community in LA has endured from the LAPD over the years. The culmination of the Rodney King beating led to the acquittal of OJ.
OJ himself , who couldn't have distanced himself further away from the black community in his younger years , would embrace his heritage at the most opportune time in history.
There is more than likely no doubt based on the evidence he is guilty. His law team was brilliant, working the system to their advantage and getting an acquittal for a guilty man.
Sadly lost in it all are two people brutally murdered. They are the victims not only of a heinous crime, but are the victims of the long injustices of the LAPD's inexcusable treatment of blacks for decades.
OJ said himself, " I'm not black, I'm OJ". He wanted nothing to do with those injustices when he was in his prime. Ironically , he embraced his heritage after his acquittal. One of the most tragic American stories ever , IMO.

Monitors...I beg you... close/lock this thread ASAP.

[megomania]

Monitors...I beg you... close/lock this thread ASAP.

Why???