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  • Gorn Captain
    Invincible Ironing Man
    • Feb 28, 2008
    • 10549

    #16
    Originally posted by hedrap
    Cameron must be devastated.
    Horner's relationship with Cameron was not a "friendly" one, so I think Cameron would only miss him on a practical level. The way Horner was treated by Cameron and Hurd during Aliens wasn't exactly "gentle".
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    • Earth 2 Chris
      Verbose Member
      • Mar 7, 2004
      • 32963

      #17
      One of the greats. A huge loss to the film industry for sure.

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      • Hedji
        Citizen of Gotham
        • Nov 17, 2012
        • 7246

        #18
        My modest collection:

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        • Hedji
          Citizen of Gotham
          • Nov 17, 2012
          • 7246

          #19
          Originally posted by Gorn Captain
          Horner's relationship with Cameron was not a "friendly" one, so I think Cameron would only miss him on a practical level. The way Horner was treated by Cameron and Hurd during Aliens wasn't exactly "gentle".
          Yeah, I haven't seen it documented anywhere, but isn't the legend that Cameron threw Horner up against a wall in a moment of deadline pressure rage?

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          • Hector
            el Hombre de Acero
            • May 19, 2003
            • 31852

            #20
            He scored Apollo 13...one of my all time favorite movies.
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            • Hector
              el Hombre de Acero
              • May 19, 2003
              • 31852

              #21
              Originally posted by hedrap
              wowowow...the man rivaled John Williams in the 80's and surpassed him in the 90's before entering semi-retirement. Hans Zimmer is the only consistently working composer who even approaches Horner's level, and he's still not there. Truly sad. Cameron must be devastated.
              No one in my lifetime will ever surpass John Williams. His body of work is simply unmatched...no one comes close, not even Horner. The only one who does, at the top of my head...is the late Jerry Goldsmith.

              I'll take Star Wars and Superman's soundtrack over Titanic and Avatar anytime.

              But Horner was fantastic too...one of the greats...no doubt.

              Danny Elfman is not too shabby either...
              Last edited by Hector; Jun 23, '15, 2:34 PM.
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              • Hedji
                Citizen of Gotham
                • Nov 17, 2012
                • 7246

                #22
                The new crop... Zimmer, Giacchino, etc. can't hold a candle to Horner.

                Elfman is good. Williams is God. That's all we have left now.

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                • Hector
                  el Hombre de Acero
                  • May 19, 2003
                  • 31852

                  #23
                  I like Vangelis too...but he's not everyone's cup of tea. But Blade Runner and Legend are two movie soundtracks that I love.
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                  • mego73
                    Printed paperboard Tiger
                    • Aug 1, 2003
                    • 6690

                    #24
                    From what I heard, their relationship during ALIENS was contentious enough that they did not work together again. Then, after seeing Braveheart and being impressed with the score, Cameron reached out to him for Titanic. Apparently, their relationship was much better this time. I am sure Cameron is mourning on a personal level too.

                    Originally posted by Gorn Captain
                    Horner's relationship with Cameron was not a "friendly" one, so I think Cameron would only miss him on a practical level. The way Horner was treated by Cameron and Hurd during Aliens wasn't exactly "gentle".

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                    • emeraldknight47
                      Talkative Member
                      • Jun 20, 2011
                      • 5212

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Hector
                      I like Vangelis too...but he's not everyone's cup of tea. But Blade Runner and Legend are two movie soundtracks that I love.
                      LEGEND is one of my faves, too, Hector, but wasn't it's score by Tangerine Dream, not Vangelis...?
                      sigpic Oh then, what's this? Big flashy lighty thing, that's what brought me here! Big flashy lighty things have got me written all over them. Not actually. But give me time. And a crayon.

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                      • Mikey
                        Verbose Member
                        • Aug 9, 2001
                        • 47258

                        #26
                        Loved his "stealing the Enterprise" score.

                        It's prob the only piece of music that'll give me a woodie on every listening

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                        • Hector
                          el Hombre de Acero
                          • May 19, 2003
                          • 31852

                          #27
                          Originally posted by emeraldknight47
                          LEGEND is one of my faves, too, Hector, but wasn't it's score by Tangerine Dream, not Vangelis...?
                          Damn it...my bad...you are right, brain fart, lol.

                          Actually Legend was released with two different music scores. The American market got Tangerine Dream...while the European market got the more contemporary classical Jerry Goldsmith score. I have the special edition Legend DVD where it has both tracks. Listening to the Jerry Goldsmith one immediately changes the whole movie...it's like a totally different movie. I like them both...my preference does lean towards Tangerine Dream more...but Goldsmith's is also great.

                          But Vangelis did do Blade Runner...a beautiful and memorable score indeed. Vangelis won an Oscar for Chariots of Fire as well.
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                          • Gorn Captain
                            Invincible Ironing Man
                            • Feb 28, 2008
                            • 10549

                            #28
                            To me, the Golden Age of soundtracks, with Goldsmith, Williams, Horner, Herrmann, is gone. I no longer get that thrill from modern scores, with a couple of exceptions.
                            I have several Horner scores, but to me, Jerry Goldsmith remains the best. The variation he put in scores, the drive and excitement, the odd instruments he used, Goldsmith tried it all with astonishing effect. Just listen to Planet of the Apes, First Blood, The Omen, fantastic scores.
                            Horner had some great moments, but at times he did repeat himself. I remember listening to Wrath of Khan and Krull and Battle beyond the stars, and hearing tracks that were so close to each other. But I always realize that soundtrack composers often have very little time to compose, often two to three weeks to produce an entire score. They are the unsung heroes of movies, often saving a mediocre film and adding that extra drive it badly needs.
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                            • Hedji
                              Citizen of Gotham
                              • Nov 17, 2012
                              • 7246

                              #29
                              Yeah, the film music industry is officially on life support at this point. Last hummable theme was...?

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                              • Earth 2 Chris
                                Verbose Member
                                • Mar 7, 2004
                                • 32963

                                #30
                                Captain America: The First Avenger has the best soundtrack of any film I've heard in the last 10 or 15 years. Alan Silvestri bucked the current trend and scored the film as if the music were an actual element of the movie-viewing experience, not just background noise. His Avengers theme isn't bad either, but the rest of the music in that film is fairly forgettable.

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