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Tonight's Breaking Bad was AWESOME!!! WARNING *****SPOILERS*****

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  • StrangeVisitor
    Career Member
    • May 13, 2007
    • 598

    #31
    I keep trying to picture how far in the future we got when Walt grabbed the ricin from the wall plate.
    The flash forward scenes are only about 7 or 8 months after "Ozymandias", remember Walt with his 52nd birthday bacon & eggs in the diner?

    As far as Walt knows Jesse is dead, after he deals with the rest of the Aryans he'll get a surprise as to who the new cook is.

    I don't know how this doesn't end with Jesse killing Walt (unless it's Todd that does it in retaliation for Walt attacking the Aryans ie Todd's "family")
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    • sauce
      Removed
      • Jun 24, 2007
      • 3491

      #32
      Originally posted by StrangeVisitor

      The flash forward scenes are only about 7 or 8 months after "Ozymandias", remember Walt with his 52nd birthday bacon & eggs in the diner?

      As far as Walt knows Jesse is dead, after he deals with the rest of the Aryans he'll get a surprise as to who the new cook is.

      I don't know how this doesn't end with Jesse killing Walt (unless it's Todd that does it in retaliation for Walt attacking the Aryans ie Todd's "family")
      Right. 52.

      Not sure if Walt would see logic in going after the Jack crew. Walt paid heavily but paid to kill Jesse, Hank, Gomez, and also keep himself out of prison. And he has $10M+ but just no family, so who knows what is next!

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      • megoscott
        Founding Partner
        • Nov 17, 2006
        • 8710

        #33
        Originally posted by Splitty
        Walt rolling that last barrel of money around the desert totally reminded me of that prehistoric squirrel in the Ice Age movies with his nuts.
        Someone pointed out that he rolls that barrel past a pair of khaki pants lying on the ground...Easter egg call out to the first episode
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        • MegoSteve
          Superman's Pal
          • Jun 17, 2005
          • 4135

          #34
          I don't get calling Walt Jr. a pansy, either. He's someone who really wanted to believe in his dad, and in one day went from a completely innocent kid to wrestling a knife away from his dad and throwing himself in front of his mom to protect her, then calling the cops. That's the scene where Walt lost his family and it's also the scene where Junior became a man.

          I also don't get calling Marie a hypocrite for being sad about losing her husband. Why?

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          • cjefferys
            Duke of Gloat
            • Apr 23, 2006
            • 10180

            #35
            Originally posted by MegoScott
            Someone pointed out that he rolls that barrel past a pair of khaki pants lying on the ground...Easter egg call out to the first episode
            Yeah, I noticed him passing a pair of pants but didn't make the connection until it was pointed out online. Nice touch!

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            • Brazoo
              Permanent Member
              • Feb 14, 2009
              • 4767

              #36
              I think the irony is that Hank called everything completely right. He totally nailed Walt's weakness for Jessie. If Jessie listened to his original plan Walt would have been taken down. When Jessie messed that up Hank pulled another plan out of his butt, and that worked too!

              Hank had a blind spot for seeing Walt for who he was all this time, but Walt revealed a major blind spot for Hank. Hank had him TWICE, easily out stepping Walt when nobody else could. Actually the only reason Walt isn't dead is dumb luck, because there's no real reason for the nazi's to let him go - when it really comes down to it.

              As far as Walt goes I think it was a brilliant episode, because we see Walt at his cruelest (giving up Jessie was expected, but torture?!) and also his most redemptive - trying to give away the money to save Hank, the phone call/confession for Skylar, and letting the baby go.

              Also, after that cliff hanger last week the first shot of the boiling pot had me laughing hard. Those brilliant evil *******s really know how to mess with me.
              Last edited by Brazoo; Sep 19, '13, 12:13 AM.

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              • MegoSteve
                Superman's Pal
                • Jun 17, 2005
                • 4135

                #37
                The Nazis let Walt go because Todd respects him and, more importantly, Walt owes them a cook. That $11MM they gave him is a drop in the bucket compared to what they'll make if Todd can learn to cook anywhere near as well as Walt did.

                (I'm not sure Jack is aware that Jesse could cook meth almost as well as Walt did. Todd may have saved Jesse so he could use Jesse's cooking skills and take the credit to impress Lydia.)
                Last edited by MegoSteve; Sep 18, '13, 7:07 AM.

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                • Chris
                  Persistent Member
                  • Dec 23, 2009
                  • 2279

                  #38
                  Not to sound like Skylar but the Nazis just landed 68 million. How much money do they need?

                  Like you guys I'm watching it from the start for the second time. It's so damn good.
                  If a Mego figure of God did not exist, it would be necessary for EMCE to invent him.

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                  • Access
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 22, 2013
                    • 258

                    #39
                    Am I the only one who thinks the order things "disappeared" at the beginning may be telling in some wAy?

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                    • Brazoo
                      Permanent Member
                      • Feb 14, 2009
                      • 4767

                      #40
                      Originally posted by MegoSteve
                      The Nazis let Walt go because Todd respects him and, more importantly, Walt owes them a cook. That $11MM they gave him is a drop in the bucket compared to what they'll make if Todd can learn to cook anywhere near as well as Walt did.

                      (I'm not sure Jack is aware that Jesse could cook meth almost as well as Walt did. Todd may have saved Jesse so he could use Jesse's cooking skills and take the credit to impress Lydia.)
                      Yeah, Jack had a few reasons he spouted off for letting Walt go and giving him cash...but all were a wee bit thin, no? Does he really think Todd is capable of caring about anyone that much? I don't think there was a solid reason, and even Jack acknowledged that. (Seems to me like an old screenwriting trick, when you need your character to do something odd, have them acknowledge that they know it's odd to smooth it over a bit with the audience.) Anyway, some weird sociopathic appeal to karma, perhaps? I'm not saying it was bad writing, but it wasn't the smoothest plot development either.

                      In any case, Jack didn't seem to care about being in the meth cooking business after getting this windfall, he never even mentioned cooking to Walt after they got the money, so I don't think he's enterprising enough to be thinking about doubling down. Though, with Jessie's skills, and Todd doing the heavy lifting maybe the Nazi crew will still be hanging around when Walt brings around his new toys.

                      I think Todd ABSOLUTELY saved Jessie so he could use him to cook to impress Lydia, as for taking credit, probably. Either way impressing/helping Lydia must be his motive. I don't think Todd cares about money too much. They made a point to show him NOT taking money from Walt (until he learned his new trade better.) He's obviously obsessed with Lydia.
                      Last edited by Brazoo; Sep 19, '13, 12:18 AM.

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                      • Brazoo
                        Permanent Member
                        • Feb 14, 2009
                        • 4767

                        #41
                        To me Todd is like a grown up psycho version of Linus from peanuts. I'd like to see the Lucy who screwed him up this bad.

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                        • Brazoo
                          Permanent Member
                          • Feb 14, 2009
                          • 4767

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Access
                          Am I the only one who thinks the order things "disappeared" at the beginning may be telling in some wAy?
                          That's an interesting thought, and I don't remember the order off-hand. They are so clever about working details in I wouldn't be surprised if you were on to something.

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                          • Access
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 22, 2013
                            • 258

                            #43
                            The pleasant phone call with his family ended first, then Walt disappeared, then jesse, then the meth lab went away. It felt like veiled foreshadowing to me the first time I saw it, then in the episode Walts family in essence went away, which felt like the first thing to have gone in the opening sequence.

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                            • Access
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 22, 2013
                              • 258

                              #44
                              Actually, come to think of it, at the end Walt went away too, going along with the order. So is Jesse going away next week? Then the meth lab? Maybe Walt comes back after he hears Jesse and the blue have gone away, to clean house and start up fresh?

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                              • Sideshow Spock
                                valar morghulis
                                • Mar 8, 2005
                                • 2859

                                #45
                                So stupid..

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