Suicide

[Gorn Captain]

People committing suicide are often not in a state of mind to make logical decisions like "I can't do this to my loved ones". They're usually so sad-angry-out of their minds-(it's a long list) that even though their decision is selfish, they can no longer make that call. They just want out so the pain will stop.

It is brutal on their family and friends. A close relative tried to commit suicide on and off for a periode of 25 years, and believe me, it destroyed my childhood.

[BATMAN89]

I just have to say that I will never understand it.

[Saroyan]

He doesn't have to, but if you say something and hurt someone's feelings it's cool to apologize ...I give Mikey props for that

x2

I think you should acknowledge someone when you have said something hurtful- though not intending to.

[Saroyan]

It is a sad situation. And apparently one that has touched and affected many of us. Sorry to here of the loss of your co-worker.

[palitoy]

Don't want to divulge much but I had someone close to me kill themselves while I was in the next room. He wasn't well but we didn't know, I think most suicides are the result of people who are undiagnosed or off their meds. It's not something you can rationalize and I can't view it as an act of cowardice, there are other factors at work.

[Captain_Mego]

Such a sad thing when someone feels there is no other out than death. I feel very sad for all involved.

[Captain_Mego]

Remeber it is so very easy to sit back and judge someone ..food for the soul.

[Donkey Hoatie]

Joe,

So sorry to hear about this. Unfortunately, I know an inordinate amount of people who have lost a family member to suicide. One guy I know has had two of his four sons commit suicide within two years of each other. Whether you lose a parent, a child, a family member, or a friend to suicide, it's devastating for everyone. I hope her daughter can find peace as soon as she is ready for it. And for everyone else on this list who has been affected by a suicide, I am sorry for your losses as well and hope you are able to find a way to deal with it that works best for you. There are no easy answers and no easy days after a suicide. All there is, is time and hope.

[Brad]

My Father committed suicide, he was not selfish or cowardly nor was he crazy. He was the strongest man I know. Before people talk about **** that they have never lived though should think about the feelings about others that have. I blame myself because I moved out of his house to move closer to work 6 months before he did it. You never get over it.

I am so sorry for your loss. Please do not blame yourself. It is not your fault.



I have lost quite a few friends this way. Never thought about it until now but probably near a dozen now. The first was way back in high school and as recent as two more just in the past year. I have never understood it nor will I ever. I can only guess there are various reasons why. I too have battled depression for much of my life along with abandonment issues. I too have had thoughts of ending it all. Thankfully they have only been passing thoughts. Loss of life makes my heart ache no matter what the circumstances.

[johnmiic]

Don't want to divulge much but I had someone close to me kill themselves while I was in the next room. He wasn't well but we didn't know, I think most suicides are the result of people who are undiagnosed or off their meds. It's not something you can rationalize and I can't view it as an act of cowardice, there are other factors at work.

Thanks for that Brian. There may be signs but they are not always obvious. I have heard suicide is a very personal thing and when people don't want you to figure out what they're up to they will hide it well. To them the goal is to accomplish the act and not be deterred from doing it by friends and family.

[ScottA]

Country star Mindy McCready committed suicide recently after the suicide death of her boyfriend 1 month earlier and losing her kids to foster care. She had a lot of issues the last couple of years she just couldn't get through. It's sad when it happens and people lose all hope.

[toys2cool]

Yea depression is more the cause then anything I would think...Of course mental problems are one as well...But the reason why I say depression is because a lot of the cases I see or hear about...are people who have lost loved ones, kids who get bullied in school, people who have lost it all( like their homes, money, jobs)

It's really really sad but you can see why this would be the easy way out for some people , There's only so much a person could take

God forbid anything happens to one of my kids(knock on wood) But I would'nt want to live, and I'd be the first to admit and I could careless what anyone would think of me..I love my boys more then life itself

[Mongoose1983]

Less than a decade ago I had a student (I'm a college professor) who killed himself by jumping off a building.

He was undergoing a depression than I remember cost him his place in the Navy a few years before. A good man, he was a nice person to everyone, fellow students and everyone around. To me it was shocking because he expected me to supervise his thesis paper. I remember the morning he took his own life he was quiet. I saw him leaving after handing me his test paper staring the floor and walking slowly.

It was and still is a devastating feeling. To learn afterwards that someone was in need of help, when nothing can be done is a very frustrating feeling. It was something that changed the way I interact with students and people around forever, because you finally come to see that the peoples who you're sharing activities so often, looking normal all the time, might really be in need of a kind word, or just someone to talk to a minute or two. Some sympathy, I don't know. Life can be extremely demanding, and we always need someone to talk to about anything, being the last ball game or whatever your former wife is asking for nowadays. The suicide of someone you know is something that can change you. It gives you a lesson, a very sad one.

Country star Mindy McCready committed suicide recently after the suicide death of her boyfriend 1 month earlier and losing her kids to foster care. She had a lot of issues the last couple of years she just couldn't get through. It's sad when it happens and people lose all hope.

Yes, it was indeed a sad story. I don't want to take the topic somewhere else, but one truly heartwrenchin' story is that of Mel Street, one of the best voices that true Country music ever had. Mel shot himself on his birthday back in 1978, when he was still at the top of the Billboard charts.

[Toyman_Chris]

I don't know that anyone can know the "why?" when it comes to suicide. So many questions and damn near zero answers.

I don't wish to make this all about me and I don't wish to detract from the tragedy of this woman's family, but I do have a story to tell. One that I share whenever the situation presents itself.

My brother was 18. I was 14. I can say that my parents divorce was impactfull in my brother's life. He was a 7th grade dropout, as my Mother allowed him to do so. It took my father 3 years to get legal custody of my brother. Needless to say, at age 16 he was not interested in going back to 7th grade. He eventually got caught up in drugs and a path that he wanted to lead me down. On a day that I did not attend school, my brother got into a fight with his girlfriend. I was there when I heard the gunshot outside our back door. There are so many mitigating circumstances that impacted my Brother's decision. I grew up a lot that day. My father told me at the time, "it was a long term solution to a short term problem". Someone else mentioned that in this thread. It is so true. The lives you impact as you leave your family & friends in such a way is immeasurable.

I say that, to say this....I can honestly say that I contemplated doing the same thing 2 years ago. I have a wonderful family and am self employed. From the outside, it looked pretty perfect to most people. From the inside, I was having emotional problems and seriously wanted out. I couldn't control my mood swings. I was sad and angry all the time. It was 2am when a police officer stopped on the bridge to see why I was there. That man may or may not have realized he saved my life that night. I went to my doctor the next day. I hit bottom and realized how scared I was. I have been on Welbuterin ever since and I thank God that I found the strength to ask for help.

That is not a story I am proud of. I don't want pity or attention. I simply want to let people know that some people just need help. Some people don't see a light at the end of the tunnel. There is such a thing as a chemical imbalance. I honestly never bought into that....but I am LIVING proof.

[toys2cool]

I don't know that anyone can know the "why?" when it comes to suicide. So many questions and damn near zero answers.

I don't wish to make this all about me and I don't wish to detract from the tragedy of this woman's family, but I do have a story to tell. One that I share whenever the situation presents itself.

My brother was 18. I was 14. I can say that my parents divorce was impactfull in my brother's life. He was a 7th grade dropout, as my Mother allowed him to do so. It took my father 3 years to get legl custody of my brother. Needless to soo, at age 16 he was not interested in going back to 7th grade. He eventually got caught up in drugs and a path that he wanted to lead me down. On a day that I did not attend school, my brother got into a fight with his girlfriend. I was there when I heard the gunshot outside our back door. There are so many mitigating circumstances that impacted my Brother's decision. I grew up a lot that day. My father told me at the time, "it was a long term solution to a short term problem". Someone else mentioned that in this thread. It is so true. The lives you impact as you leave your family & friends in such a way is immeasurable.

I say, to say this....I can honestly say that I contemplated doing the same thing 2 years ago. I have a wonderful family and am self employed. From the outside, it looked pretty perfect to most people. From the inside, I was having emotional problems and seriously wanted out. I couldn't control my mood swings. I was sad and angry all the time. It was 2am when a police officer stopped on the bridge to see why I was there. That man may or may not have realized he saved my life that night. I went to my doctor the next day. I hit bottom and realized how scared I was. I have been on Welbuterin ever since and I thank God that I found the strength to ask for help.

That is not a story I am proud of. I don't want pity or attention. I simply want to let people know that some people just need help. Some people don't see a light at the end of the tunnel. There is such a thing as a chemical imbalance. I honestly never bought into that....but I am LIVING proof.

I'm sorry to hear that bro...I'm glad you made the right decision..your family or this place would'nt be the same with out ya my friend