anyone know anything about painting cars or what paint is the best?

[toys2cool]

hey guys, I'm looking to have my car painted...but have no idea what paints are the best or how much you need for a car...I found a couple of local places that'll do it cheaper if you bring in your own paint...anyone know which is the best kind? I see they have 3, or if these are even any good? thanx
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[toys2cool]

ok the title doesn't show it..it's Enamel, lacquer and urethane ?

[BlackKnight]

..... I got Nothing. Thought I did.

[Hector]

Mmm...where do I begin?

Personally, I'm not an auto painter...but learned practically just about everything about painting cars through the old school master classic and hot rod painter that's been taking care of my car for the last year, lol.

The dude has his own personal shop and no helpers...so he's got a fleet of cars lined up...and slowing finishing each one...mine will be at last finished by April 26th, my birthday, lol.

The following are according to him...who has been doing this for the last 40 years or so:

Will you personally be painting the car? Or is a professional with professional equipment going to do it for you?

While a good quality paint helps, the key to a great paint finish is not the paint itself...but the surface prepping of the car itself.

Will it go directly on top of the existing paint job?

Or will your car be completely stripped of paint?

Will it be sanded down by hand to bare metal?

Will it be sandblasted?

Are all the exterior trimmings going to be removed? Chrome, rubber, mirrors, emblems, bumpers, moldings, and so on?

Any bondo being placed?

...and, on, and on, and on...

Will it be primed?

How many coats of paint? Single, two, three?

How many stages of clear coat?

There's also another component needed for paint...reducer.

OK...now on to the paints you are looking for.


The following articles/links will give you great insight of the pros and cons of each types of paints:


Enamel:

Enamel Car Paint: Understanding the Pros And Cons - CarsDirect.com


Lacquer:

Lacquer Car Paint: Understanding the Pros And Cons - CarsDirect.com


Urethane:

Urethane Car Paint: Understanding the Pros and Cons - CarsDirect.com


Then there's Acrylic:

The Pros and Cons of Acrylic Car Paint


Oh, and remember, water-based paint is easier to spot paint...while an oil-based paint becomes a lot harder, but it is much cheaper.

High end brands are Dupont, House of Kolor, and Sherwin Williams.

I'm personally going for an oil-based G2 OMNI Urethane paint system. Many don't like it, because it's not water-based, and it's harder to spot paint with this one. Also many consider OMNI to be a lower-end brand...but my old school painter loves it...he says the newer and much more expensive brand name water-based paints are a scam to rip people off. He showed me one of his rides that he painted about a dozen years ago with this particular OMNI paint...it still looked like he just painted it yesterday, lol.

It was still not cheap though...my one gallon of G2 OMNI cost me $225 bucks.

Here it is...it's called REDFIRE pearl coat...the car is not mine though...but it's a sample of what it looks like on it, lol:

Redfire g2 - a set on Flickr

Guess how much I was quoted for a Dupont water-based gallon of G2 REDFIRE pearl coat paint?

$740...yes...you read that right...$740...

My OMNI doesn't seem so expensive anymore after all, lol.

BTW, I'm not all at familiar with those brands of paints you listed...I'm sure someone like Zemo might be of better help...but like I said...surface prepping your car is more important in my humble opinion...if it's done right...even a cheapie paint will last you for years.


I hope that gives you an idea, Damien...keep us posted on what you finally decide.


P.S. I'd get a gallon of each, meaning, one for primer, one for paint, and one for clear coat. Plus enough reducer for all of them.

P.S.S. And the grit sanding, that's a whole different bowl of wax altogether, lol.

[Hector]

Check this video out, Damien...Urethane seems to be the choice of many...plus they use a Mustang fender...and give you step-by-step instructions of the proper way of going about it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJSxwDvI12s

[Hector]

AND MAKE SURE TO REMOVE ANY RUST THAT YOUR RIDE MIGHT HAVE!!!

[Hector]

Jesus, I wrote all that for nothing, Damien?????

[Hector]

[toys2cool]

Mmm...where do I begin?

Personally, I'm not an auto painter...but learned practically just about everything about painting cars through the old school master classic and hot rod painter that's been taking care of my car for the last year, lol.

The dude has his own personal shop and no helpers...so he's got a fleet of cars lined up...and slowing finishing each one...mine will be at last finished by April 26th, my birthday, lol.

The following are according to him...who has been doing this for the last 40 years or so:

Will you personally be painting the car? Or is a professional with professional equipment going to do it for you?

While a good quality paint helps, the key to a great paint finish is not the paint itself...but the surface prepping of the car itself.

Will it go directly on top of the existing paint job?

Or will your car be completely stripped of paint?

Will it be sanded down by hand to bare metal?

Will it be sandblasted?

Are all the exterior trimmings going to be removed? Chrome, rubber, mirrors, emblems, bumpers, moldings, and so on?

Any bondo being placed?

...and, on, and on, and on...

Will it be primed?

How many coats of paint? Single, two, three?

How many stages of clear coat?

There's also another component needed for paint...reducer.

OK...now on to the paints you are looking for.


The following articles/links will give you great insight of the pros and cons of each types of paints:


Enamel:

Enamel Car Paint: Understanding the Pros And Cons - CarsDirect.com


Lacquer:

Lacquer Car Paint: Understanding the Pros And Cons - CarsDirect.com


Urethane:

Urethane Car Paint: Understanding the Pros and Cons - CarsDirect.com


Then there's Acrylic:

The Pros and Cons of Acrylic Car Paint


Oh, and remember, water-based paint is easier to spot paint...while an oil-based paint becomes a lot harder, but it is much cheaper.

High end brands are Dupont, House of Kolor, and Sherwin Williams.

I'm personally going for an oil-based G2 OMNI Urethane paint system. Many don't like it, because it's not water-based, and it's harder to spot paint with this one. Also many consider OMNI to be a lower-end brand...but my old school painter loves it...he says the newer and much more expensive brand name water-based paints are a scam to rip people off. He showed me one of his rides that he painted about a dozen years ago with this particular OMNI paint...it still looked like he just painted it yesterday, lol.

It was still not cheap though...my one gallon of G2 OMNI cost me $225 bucks.

Here it is...it's called REDFIRE pearl coat...the car is not mine though...but it's a sample of what it looks like on it, lol:

Redfire g2 - a set on Flickr

Guess how much I was quoted for a Dupont water-based gallon of G2 REDFIRE pearl coat paint?

$740...yes...you read that right...$740...

My OMNI doesn't seem so expensive anymore after all, lol.

BTW, I'm not all at familiar with those brands of paints you listed...I'm sure someone like Zemo might be of better help...but like I said...surface prepping your car is more important in my humble opinion...if it's done right...even a cheapie paint will last you for years.


I hope that gives you an idea, Damien...keep us posted on what you finally decide.


P.S. I'd get a gallon of each, meaning, one for primer, one for paint, and one for clear coat. Plus enough reducer for all of them.

P.S.S. And the grit sanding, that's a whole different bowl of wax altogether, lol.

wow thanx for all the info bro I have no idea about those questions you asked

[Hector]

So are you painting the car yourself?

[toys2cool]

Check this video out, Damien...Urethane seems to be the choice of many...plus they use a Mustang fender...and give you step-by-step instructions of the proper way of going about it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJSxwDvI12s

wow that color in beautiful

[toys2cool]

Jesus, I wrote all that for nothing, Damien?????

sorry bro i thought no one replied to it

the car I'm getting has no rust, it's painted black which doesn't look bad until you open the doors and pop the hood and then see it use to be a maroonish kind of color...So i'm looking to paint it somewhere between a dark red or maroon with a pearl coat

it's just that all the paint shops here are rip offs, so i don't if to try and strip the paint myself or let them do it..is it safe to paint on top of an existing paint?

[Hector]

Man, you are going to get orange peel, and that paint job will be gone in a couple of years.

You should at least sand it down a bit, then apply primer, then paint, rent a good spray gun, but remember, you have to dilute a bit with a reducer, also make sure, if at all possible, paint the car in an enclosed area, like a garage, you don't want wind of any kind, otherwise, you are going to get dirt particles all over the car.

And lastly, and I cannot Stress this enough, once everything is dried up, apply some clear coat, it protects the paint from scratches, sun fading, and gives it that super nice shine.

[Hector]

Oh, and wear a mask.

[megomania]

Doesn't Earl Schieb still paint cars for $99.95?

Oops...gues not

http://www.earlscheib.com/