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  • Werewolf
    Inhuman
    • Jul 14, 2003
    • 14974

    #16
    I also have Wizard of Oz on blu-ray. It looks great. People sometimes forget how much color and detail has been lost from the original print over the years as it has been copied over and over and released on washed out VHS copies and standard def television. The Blu-Ray version is the closest the movie has looked to its original print since the 1939 theatrical release.
    You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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    • Brad
      Batman Fanatic
      • Aug 20, 2010
      • 1230

      #17
      I love HD and watching the NFL or playing PS3 games on it just adds to the enjoyment!

      Also I wanted to mention that old films such as Wizard of Oz are filmed in HD. It's a bit over my head in trying to explain it but they do not do any weird enhancements when these films come out in HD. As mentioned it is as close to seeing it on the big screen as you can get. Our newer LED Vizio blows our older LCD Vizio in the weeds for picture quality so I highly recommend getting an LED if your looking to buy one.
      "Never take a person's dignity: it is worth everything to them, and nothing to you." - Frank Barron

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      • cjefferys
        Duke of Gloat
        • Apr 23, 2006
        • 10180

        #18
        Film has a higher resolution than a Blu-ray disc. So the Blu-ray of WOZ is the closest to seeing an actual film print than any other home video version.

        It reminds me of public access cable live video feed.
        I think the problem you saw was that many new HDTVs have a motion interpolation feature that can make movies shot on film look like a video, aka the "soap opera effect". If an HDTV has that feature it can be turned off, and really it should be when you are watching a movie. Film should look like film, not a home video, and a good HDTV can give a remarkably film like picture (assuming the Blu-ray transfer is good).

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        • Werewolf
          Inhuman
          • Jul 14, 2003
          • 14974

          #19
          A 35 mm print still has to be compressed for Blu-ray. It is just compressed WAY less than standard def or low def early TV standard. Classic movies we saw on TV as kids were severly compressed and generally from poor second, third, etc generation copies. Resulting in a washed out soft image.
          You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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          • Brad
            Batman Fanatic
            • Aug 20, 2010
            • 1230

            #20
            Originally posted by Werewolf
            A 35 mm print still has to be compressed for Blu-ray. It is just compressed WAY less than standard def or low def early TV standard. Classic movies we saw on TV as kids were severly compressed and generally from poor second, third, etc generation copies. Resulting in a washed out soft image.
            Good point. I've always wondered why some films look great and others not. They were all shot on basically the same film I think. Is there a quality difference in how a company does the transfer? It never made sense to me so I guessed it just cost more to do a better job? That said, a well done Blu-Ray on a nice HDTV is still very sweet!
            "Never take a person's dignity: it is worth everything to them, and nothing to you." - Frank Barron

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            • Werewolf
              Inhuman
              • Jul 14, 2003
              • 14974

              #21
              Originally posted by Brad
              Good point. I've always wondered why some films look great and others not.
              It generally varies from the condition of the existing prints to what generation of copy you are seeing. Like many of Universals classic Monster movie VHS and even DVD releases could be a lot better, especially Dracula. That movie needs some serious restoration.
              You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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              • Hector
                el Hombre de Acero
                • May 19, 2003
                • 31852

                #22
                Originally posted by toys2cool
                I'm addicted as well, football has never been the same
                No other way to watch sports but on large screen HDTV...

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                • Hector
                  el Hombre de Acero
                  • May 19, 2003
                  • 31852

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Zemo
                  HD Hooked, every tv(4) in my house is HD, You can also count be as Blueray when ever possible.
                  Yes...we have four as well...

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                  • Adam West
                    Museum CPA
                    • Apr 14, 2003
                    • 6822

                    #24
                    I do think I will go with an LED if I decide to buy one for the mancave. I looked at a new Sony LED and was amazed at the picture quality. Has anyone watched an NFL game in 3-D? As of right now, I'm really not into it but just curious if anyone has seen a sporting event in 3-D and it is worth buying. I enjoy 3-D movies here and there at the theater but I don't think I want to watch everything in 3-D. The prices are very reasonable. My only minor complaint with HD is that sometimes certain items like a herringbone suit or even a mesh NFL jersey looks a little funky at times when the camera zooms in on it. I am a late adopter to technology...still read books (no kindle) and don't own an Ipod or fancy cell phone. Now that I have had an HDTV for a couple of years; it is really odd to watch anything in analog. I have a really nice analog tv and it almost looks blurry to me in comparison.
                    "The farther we go, the more the ultimate explanation recedes from us, and all we have left is faith."
                    ~Vaclav Hlavaty

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                    • Adam West
                      Museum CPA
                      • Apr 14, 2003
                      • 6822

                      #25
                      I will also add that regular DVD's played on a Blu-Ray on HDTV look great in general. Not blu-ray quality great but much better than watching on a regular tv through a regular dvd player.
                      "The farther we go, the more the ultimate explanation recedes from us, and all we have left is faith."
                      ~Vaclav Hlavaty

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                      • Werewolf
                        Inhuman
                        • Jul 14, 2003
                        • 14974

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Adam West
                        Has anyone watched an NFL game in 3-D? As of right now, I'm really not into it but just curious if anyone has seen a sporting event in 3-D and it is worth buying.
                        I saw a Soccer game demoed at Best Buy.

                        For me, it was okay for a minute or two but after that my eyes started to water and burn. In my opinion the image suffers. It's not as clear or as sharp as regular HDTV. It has a softer slightly blurrier look to it. It's also like looking at big view master picture. You have a couple layers of 2D flat cut out looking images spaced apart to give the illusion of depth.

                        Nothing I'd pay extra for.
                        You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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                        • mego73
                          Printed paperboard Tiger
                          • Aug 1, 2003
                          • 6690

                          #27
                          Originally posted by cjefferys
                          Film has a higher resolution than a Blu-ray disc. So the Blu-ray of WOZ is the closest to seeing an actual film print than any other home video version.



                          I think the problem you saw was that many new HDTVs have a motion interpolation feature that can make movies shot on film look like a video, aka the "soap opera effect". If an HDTV has that feature it can be turned off, and really it should be when you are watching a movie. Film should look like film, not a home video, and a good HDTV can give a remarkably film like picture (assuming the Blu-ray transfer is good).

                          You know, I have gotten blue in the face explaining why a movie made before HDTV could be in HD to many a people. HDTV comes closer to, but still doesn't top the detail of 35mm film.

                          You are right, I didn't grasp what Werewolf was saying when he said "cable access". HDTV's can be set to deliver a smoothness in motion that divorces it from looking like film.

                          Most film blu rays are encoded with 24 frame video and on the properly set HDTV will output in the same frame rate as the original film.

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                          • doctor09210
                            Banned
                            • Aug 22, 2011
                            • 674

                            #28
                            i find Hd just plain
                            full screen tv's are still the best

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                            • doctor09210
                              Banned
                              • Aug 22, 2011
                              • 674

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Adam West
                              Has anyone watched an NFL game in 3-D? As of right now, I'm really not into it but just curious if anyone has seen a sporting event in 3-D and it is worth buying. I enjoy 3-D movies here and there at the theater but I don't think I want to watch everything in 3-D. The prices are very reasonable.
                              3d tv is only good on the Imax 3d movies on blu ray but for that, the movies are like 45 bucks plus 1100 for a tv and 450 for a 3d blurry. just for a tiny selection

                              idk
                              i hate 3d

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                              • thunderbolt
                                Hi Ernie!!!
                                • Feb 15, 2004
                                • 34211

                                #30
                                Originally posted by cjefferys
                                Film has a higher resolution than a Blu-ray disc. So the Blu-ray of WOZ is the closest to seeing an actual film print than any other home video version.



                                I think the problem you saw was that many new HDTVs have a motion interpolation feature that can make movies shot on film look like a video, aka the "soap opera effect". If an HDTV has that feature it can be turned off, and really it should be when you are watching a movie. Film should look like film, not a home video, and a good HDTV can give a remarkably film like picture (assuming the Blu-ray transfer is good).
                                Sort of soap opera looking, just even more defined, it actually makes me a bit queasy to look at it. I am just not impressed with it one bit by what I see in stores, an am not going to waste a bunch of money to see it at home. My brother in law has a HD set in his bar area and it give me the same impression.
                                You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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