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  • Hector
    el Hombre de Acero
    • May 19, 2003
    • 31852

    #76
    Originally posted by toys2cool
    yeah yeah we all know how Hec feels about him, so his argument is pretty pointless It's like me defending Warrior
    But Randy can at least move...not like your robot Warrior...

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    • Hector
      el Hombre de Acero
      • May 19, 2003
      • 31852

      #77
      Originally posted by TEXASFETT
      All you guys make me laugh especially Hector. Cena is one big fawking dude no doubt, but like to see some action build up with rock it's coming and gonna last awhile. I really hope King beats the hell out of Cole......I can't stand his azz. Wrestlemania should be fun like always this can't wait.



      Cole is without a doubt...the biggest ******bag in the WWE right now.
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      • toys2cool
        Ultimate Mego Warrior
        • Nov 27, 2006
        • 28605

        #78
        Originally posted by Hector
        But Randy can at least move...not like your robot Warrior...

        funny how he will never be remembered as the Warrior was
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        • toys2cool
          Ultimate Mego Warrior
          • Nov 27, 2006
          • 28605

          #79
          Originally posted by Hector
          I already got Damien back by mentioning the Warrior's limited abilities...

          let him Gorilla press someone like Hogan then get back to me
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          • toys2cool
            Ultimate Mego Warrior
            • Nov 27, 2006
            • 28605

            #80
            Originally posted by Hector
            True...

            if he was so good then why has the WWE done nothing with him? The guy did nothing in the Marines (a deserter who went awol and got discharged) and he'll continue to be nothing in the WWE
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            • Hector
              el Hombre de Acero
              • May 19, 2003
              • 31852

              #81
              Originally posted by toys2cool
              funny how he will never be remembered as the Warrior was
              Warrior who?

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              • Hector
                el Hombre de Acero
                • May 19, 2003
                • 31852

                #82
                Originally posted by toys2cool
                if he was so good then why has the WWE done nothing with him? The guy did nothing in the Marines (a deserter who went awol and got discharged) and he'll continue to be nothing in the WWE
                Orton is second only to Rock and Cena in popularity right now (Triple H forces his way into popularity)...and the BEST damn heel in decades...

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                • Hector
                  el Hombre de Acero
                  • May 19, 2003
                  • 31852

                  #83
                  Originally posted by toys2cool
                  let him Gorilla press someone like Hogan then get back to me
                  So the Warrior can pick up heavy loads...just like his counterpart...the buey...





                  He's still slow, has two left feet, can't smacktalk, and has exactly only two wrestling moves in his arsenal...thump and thud...

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                  • toys2cool
                    Ultimate Mego Warrior
                    • Nov 27, 2006
                    • 28605

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Hector
                    Warrior who?

                    lol! you know the first wrestler ever to be WWF champ and intercontinental champ at the same time
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                    • toys2cool
                      Ultimate Mego Warrior
                      • Nov 27, 2006
                      • 28605

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Hector
                      So the Warrior can pick up heavy loads...just like his counterpart...the buey...





                      He's still slow, has two left feet, can't smacktalk, and has exactly only two wrestling moves in his arsenal...thump and thud...

                      just cause you can't understand what he's saying doesn't mean he can't smack talk, that's the way they talk in parts unknown
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                      • Hector
                        el Hombre de Acero
                        • May 19, 2003
                        • 31852

                        #86
                        Good point...

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                        • Hector
                          el Hombre de Acero
                          • May 19, 2003
                          • 31852

                          #87
                          Originally posted by toys2cool
                          lol! you know the first wrestler ever to be WWF champ and intercontinental champ at the same time
                          I know...just messing with ya...

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                          • Brown Bear
                            Still Old School
                            • Feb 14, 2008
                            • 7063

                            #88
                            and don't forget, Warrior squashed Triple H in about 10 seconds. I personally would LOVE to see Warrior do that again today. I can't stand Triple H.

                            Orton should be the top guy in WWE right now or Wade Barrett.
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                            • Chris DVM
                              Veterinarian Member
                              • Jun 18, 2001
                              • 2577

                              #89
                              Hey,
                              OK, gonna wade in with my 2 cents. . .
                              WWE has had to become more mainstream in the last few years, and, unfortunately, that has really done it wrong. The reason TNA started to gain in popularity is that is went with the edgy aspect that brought WWE so far along. Think back to the Austin era, the beginnings of Degeneration X, the truely devil worshipping Undertaker. THAT is what brought the fans in. However, it has become a victim of it's own popularity. As it became more popular, it had to tone everything down and become mainstream, as otherwise the pop culture police would have caused all sorts of problems (for example, blood now is completely accidental, almost never seen on TV and rarely in the PPV shows). Likewise, many of the amazing stunts are banned now due to the increase liability costs.
                              So it makes sense that for a number of years now we have been seeing a very classic Good Guy Bad Guy theme - you are either a fan favorite by being the epitomy of everything good (honor, loyalty, respect) or the ultimate bad guy (Nexus ganging up on everyone). However, the problem with that is that they continued to DRRRRAAAAAGGGGGGG out the storylines. The same two guys would wrestle for the titles for 6 or 8 months, just going back and forth. Storylines were sacrificed for the same match over and over. Heck, if it sells once, it will sell 7 times, right?
                              Wrong, and the money has shown that. Evidence is that even with increased ticket and PPV prices, revenue is dropping.
                              So in the last year you have seen an increase in the "Heel that we all Love" storyline. Orton has channeled Austin in this matter. Other wrestlers are starting to try to be much edgier - John Morrison is a great wrestler, but you are starting to see him be much more aggressive and using tactics that are more vicious than you would usually see a good guy use. The line between good and bad is starting to blur.
                              Cena is not a good wrestler - more muscle than talent - but he is a fan favorite, mostly because he 'lives' a code that we all find honorable. But he has trapped himself in this role - if they try to make him a heel or change his persona, it will kill off his character. And right now WWE cannot afford to lose such a profitable asset. Orton is a great wrestler, but also trapped in his character - the best way for him to continue is to start pulling Austin like antics - dirty attacks on the heels, speaking his mind whenever and whereever - but I don't think he can do that in the current WWE atmosphere of semi political correctness. Popularity is a two edged sword.
                              So here is how I see this playing out. This will be Undertakers last Wrestlemania, and he will go out 20-0. It will be a hell of a match, but I think they will retire him on a high note. Cena will either take the title and then get pounded by the Rock, setting up future matches, or the Rock will interfere and cost Cena the title. Having Miz as the titleholder has worked for a while, but even his heel is getting on people's nerves, and I think his stay is almost over. He is so annoying people have almost stopped hating him and are just turning him off. But alot of this hinges on whether the Rock is truely staying or just here for a short time. The fact he was not on this last Raw makes me wonder just how long he will be around. Cena vs the Rock would be a great match, but how long could they continue this? You have two very well liked wrestlers going against each other - if you drag it out, one has to become hated, and neither one can afford to lose their popularity to keep WWE in cash.
                              Smackdown is dying - outside of Edge, there is just nothing that they are doing with that franchise. If they don't interject some new blood or interesting stories soon, it is going to fade away.
                              Bringing back the Rock was brilliant - if they continue to use him and get him back in the wrestling arena. Sting and Warrior would be amazing to see again - even if they were just used like Bret Hart, sparringly, it would still interject some much needed spice into the mixture.
                              And lastly, I have to admit that I am a Cena fan. Like I said, I don't think he is a great wrestler, but I like what he stands for and his persona is a great role model to believe in. That said, I would have no problem with the Rock kicking him all over the place!!
                              Chris DVM
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                              • JDeRouen
                                Author of Small Things
                                • Jun 14, 2001
                                • 16568

                                #90
                                I started watching professional wrestling when I was nine or ten, and stopped after Chris Benoit killed his wife and son and then took his own life. I probably would never have gotten back into it had my nine-year-old son not somehow became obsessed with wrestling about nine months ago. So here I am again, watching Raw and Smackdown, and downloading the PPVs the morning after legally watching the PPVs.

                                I liked John Cena ever since he was The Prototype in Ohio Valley Wrestling but always hated the rap gimmick. He's moved past that (last week's promo on Johnson notwithstanding) thank god, and is probably one of my favorite wrestlers. He's definitely my son's favorite. We've seen all three of his movies, (Legendary was excellent) and my son is a total mark for t-shirts, hats, action figures, etc. I LIKE that there's at least one wrestler who is a full-fledged face, that (unlike, say, Randy Orton) isn't straddling the fence between "right and wrong." My son can and does follow that example.

                                Rocky always irritated me when he was a full-time wrestler, but I was happy enough to see him come back. That said, I don't WANT a return to the "attitude era." Remember the Katie Vick angle, and wrestlers getting cut every week? That was indicative of the attitude era. I want something that I can watch with my son, that he can enjoy withing me having to explain things like necrophilia and grown men cutting themselves for the sake of television ratings. But I digress.

                                Dwayne Johnson won't fight John Cena at Wrestlemania. He hasn't wrestled in seven years. Heck, Jerry Lawler has wrestled more in the last seven years than has Rocky. I could see him maybe being the guest referee for the Cena vs. Miz match, but really that's about it.

                                Both Rocky's promo and Cena's follow up were entertaining, but I'm not sure ultimately served much purpose. Rocky isn't coming back to be a full-time wrestler, and they're not going to turn Cena heel. If anything, it'll be like Mike Tyson referring the match between Steve Austin and then-heel Shawn Michaels. There was heat between Tyson and Austin, but ultimately Tyson called it down the middle and punched out Michaels at the end of the match.

                                Bringing Rocky back for Wrestlemania was the right call, he's added a layer of excitement and unpredictability, but, much like Cena said in his promo, after Wrestlemania he'll still be there and Rocky will be back making movies.
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