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  • ScottA
    Original Member
    • Jun 25, 2001
    • 12264

    #16
    I'd like to see the "expert" for that. LOL.
    sigpic WANTED: Boxed, Carded and Kresge Carded WGSH

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    • Twiki1979
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 21, 2009
      • 292

      #17
      I 100% side with the pickers/pawn stars on this....people have junk lying around their barns covered in crap and someone comes along who could do something with it...no matter what it's worth your taking someone elses junk,giving them some money for it and who cares what you do with it afterwards.....NONE of this stuff ( other than the transformers guy ) is stuff people care about. If the offer isn't right,they always walk away...

      Would you see a carded Green Goblin at a yard sale for $20 and tell the person selling it oh,i can't buy this from you for $20...it's worth over 10 grand.....so i'll give you that. I don't believe for a second anyone would ever do that.....we would all pay the $20 and go home happy.....

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      • Doc
        Banned
        • May 9, 2010
        • 534

        #18
        Originally posted by Twiki1979
        I 100% side with the pickers/pawn stars on this....people have junk lying around their barns covered in crap and someone comes along who could do something with it...no matter what it's worth your taking someone elses junk,giving them some money for it and who cares what you do with it afterwards.....NONE of this stuff ( other than the transformers guy ) is stuff people care about. If the offer isn't right,they always walk away...

        Would you see a carded Green Goblin at a yard sale for $20 and tell the person selling it oh,i can't buy this from you for $20...it's worth over 10 grand.....so i'll give you that. I don't believe for a second anyone would ever do that.....we would all pay the $20 and go home happy.....
        Unless it was your stuff

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        • Hector
          el Hombre de Acero
          • May 19, 2003
          • 31852

          #19
          I missed the episode...but I'll catch it later on On Demand.
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          • Lonestarhobbies
            Museum Patron
            • Jul 8, 2010
            • 137

            #20
            Originally posted by Twiki1979
            I 100% side with the pickers/pawn stars on this....people have junk lying around their barns covered in crap and someone comes along who could do something with it...no matter what it's worth your taking someone elses junk,giving them some money for it and who cares what you do with it afterwards.....NONE of this stuff ( other than the transformers guy ) is stuff people care about. If the offer isn't right,they always walk away...

            Would you see a carded Green Goblin at a yard sale for $20 and tell the person selling it oh,i can't buy this from you for $20...it's worth over 10 grand.....so i'll give you that. I don't believe for a second anyone would ever do that.....we would all pay the $20 and go home happy.....
            TRUTH!!!! I couldn't have said it better..... Sometimes values are a mere perception. No one says that you have to take the offer.....

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            • Goblin19
              Talkative Member
              • May 2, 2002
              • 6124

              #21
              American Pickers offer pretty fair amounts, as do the Pawn Stars guys. I think they over offer a lot of times.

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              • Adam West
                Museum CPA
                • Apr 14, 2003
                • 6822

                #22
                I have actually seen episodes of American Pickers where someone will offer to sell something for $20 and the picker will say....no I'm gonna offer you $50 because it's worth more than that.

                Possibly this is done to gain trust so they can lowball on something else.

                I have also seen them offer to purchase a worthless item for $5 or so in an attempt to get the ball rolling to see if they can get the potential seller to start considering offers on the items they really want.
                "The farther we go, the more the ultimate explanation recedes from us, and all we have left is faith."
                ~Vaclav Hlavaty

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                • samurainoir
                  Eloquent Member
                  • Dec 26, 2006
                  • 18758

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Doc
                  And remember when he totally tries to lowball you, he has a brick and mortor place to run, computers and this and that........
                  Yes, because he's running a Vegas Pawn Shop, not a Soup Kitchen!

                  If you want the full value of the item, then go do the work yourself to get the full value. Take the time and effort to sell each piece individually on ebay or take it to an auction house, or get a table at a collector's show or network with collectors of that particular item. Most of those take at the very least the investment of your time and effort, which is worth $$ to most people who are not billionaire playboys living the Life of Riley.

                  If you need the scratch right away without putting in the leg work yourself to find a buyer at full value, go to a Pawn Shop.

                  If you want to show off your Transformers collection on TV, Pawn Stars.

                  If all of the above reeks of decadent capitalism, there are a few remaining communist countries that would welcome you and your stuff into the collective with open arms comrade!
                  Last edited by samurainoir; Jul 14, '10, 6:40 PM.
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                  • Doc
                    Banned
                    • May 9, 2010
                    • 534

                    #24
                    Originally posted by samurainoir
                    Yes, because he's running a Vegas Pawn Shop, not a Soup Kitchen!

                    If you want the full value of the item, then go do the work yourself to get the full value. Take the time and effort to sell each piece individually on ebay or take it to an auction house, or get a table at a collector's show or network with collectors of that particular item. Most of those take at the very least the investment of your time and effort, which is worth $$ to most people who are not billionaire playboys living the Life of Riley.

                    If you need the scratch right away without putting in the leg work yourself to find a buyer at full value, go to a Pawn Shop.

                    If you want to show off your Transformers collection on TV, Pawn Stars.

                    If all of the above reeks of decadent capitalism, there are a few remaining communist countries that would welcome you and your stuff into the collective with open arms comrade!
                    Would love to see how many people HERE would respond if I offered them alot less for their wares, collections or customs. Guess that would be different then huh Comrade?

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                    • Doc
                      Banned
                      • May 9, 2010
                      • 534

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Doc
                      Would love to see how many people HERE would respond if I offered them alot less for their wares, collections or customs. Guess that would be different then huh Comrade?
                      If thats not the case everyone selling please PM me. I got some great offers for you. But remember I too must make a profit off you so....

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                      • samurainoir
                        Eloquent Member
                        • Dec 26, 2006
                        • 18758

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Doc
                        Would love to see how many people HERE would respond if I offered them alot less for their wares, collections or customs. Guess that would be different then huh Comrade?
                        Except that you are not walking into a Pawn Shop are you? In a situation where you are hoping for the fast cash.

                        You are networking with other collectors online (as mentioned as one of your options to get Full Value for your item).

                        It's not really a valid comparison to compare a Pawn business with what is essentially a collector's marketplace.

                        That doesn't mean you can't send them lowball offers, particularly if someone asks that you make an offer. Go ahead and send a lowball offer. In bartering that is generally a starting point to feel out where the seller or buyer is at, and if you are even playing in the same ballpark. It's just unlikely that they will accept, unless if they are in a situation that requires fast cash to pay debts or bills.

                        So let's try this from another angle. How would Doc like his imaginary Pawn Shop to run? How much would you have paid for the Transformers set if you were on the other side of the counter and still wanted to stay in the Pawn business for twenty years? And what steps would you have to take to make a profit on it?
                        Last edited by samurainoir; Jul 14, '10, 9:07 PM.
                        My store in the MEGO MALL!

                        BUY THE CAPTAIN CANUCK ACTION FIGURE HERE!

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                        • Doc
                          Banned
                          • May 9, 2010
                          • 534

                          #27
                          Absolutly.... you selling anything Hmmmmmmm

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                          • samurainoir
                            Eloquent Member
                            • Dec 26, 2006
                            • 18758

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Doc
                            Absolutly.... you selling anything Hmmmmmmm
                            I got $20,000 worth of Loose Transformers to sell you Doc.

                            You're sitting behind the pawn shop counter. Make a profit, pay the rent on the store and warehouse, pay your employees, pay your overhead, have some left over for yourself, and still stay in business.

                            Make me an offer for them!
                            My store in the MEGO MALL!

                            BUY THE CAPTAIN CANUCK ACTION FIGURE HERE!

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                            • LadyZod
                              Superman's Gal Pal
                              • Jan 27, 2007
                              • 1803

                              #29
                              Back in the day when I worked at a rather big comic shop, we used to get all these guys coming in with their longboxes of comics and the latest issue of Wizard.

                              And of course, they had graded and priced their comics per their guide (forget the fact that the only time a professional comic dealer uses Wizard is to highlight which books are HOT, dealers use the Overstreet and nowadays, ebay.)

                              Sure, according to the guide their longbox was worth $500. To us? It was worth maybe $20... and that's only if we get the keep the box. (Longboxes are about $7!)

                              We didn't need the stuff. We had a backroom full of multiples of every issue in that box, and probably multiples of the issues he was missing to complete the run... to us, not worth very much.

                              So what we'd tell them each and every time... "You're better off keeping your comics and selling them to another collector, or even donating it to a library for the tax write off, cause I'm only going to give you about a nickle a piece, and I'm keeping that new longbox it's in."

                              Now, if a longbox walked in the door with a Fantasy 15 or a Tec 27, or even a Hulk 181... that's different. We'd make an offer for the whole box including at least half the price of the book we wanted. No deal? Fine, same price, 10% less... just for that one book... unless we already had a buyer lined up. In which case, all bets off.

                              Point is, collector value does not equal dealer value.

                              As far as a Pawn shop? PLEASE! Pawn shops exist for one reason... you NEED the cash fast. And you know you're going to get only 5% of the value of your item. Because the main point of a Pawnshop is to HOLD your item until you can reclaim it. It's like a bailbond. You're locking your stuff up in jail, and then you return with that 5% of the value (the money pawnshop owner loaned you plus a small fee) to free your item.

                              Pawnshops don't buy... they LOAN you money-you give them collateral. If you don't pay the loan, they keep your crap.
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                              • Adam West
                                Museum CPA
                                • Apr 14, 2003
                                • 6822

                                #30
                                I don't know a lot about Pawn Shops but at least in Pawn Stars they will offer to Pawn your item (like you said make a short term loan but they keep your item as collateral) or you can sell outright. My son and I both noticed on one episode a very knowledgeable collector of casino chips walk in with a rare casino chip and mentioned that he wanted the "cash" to increase his collection. Sell his one high end chip and purchase a lot of lower end chips. So after he agrees to the deal, he walks away and says something about going to the casino to make some money. His reason for selling at the beginning to match up with what he said at the end. Also, it seems that at least 50% of the people they show on Pawn Stars didn't even collect the item they are selling. They inherited it or acquired it by some other means, don't have any emotional attachment to it and will basically take whatever they can get for it. They seem like they want cash on the spot and not have to deal with Ebay or waiting for their money.
                                "The farther we go, the more the ultimate explanation recedes from us, and all we have left is faith."
                                ~Vaclav Hlavaty

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