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  • Captain_Mego
    Vet.
    • May 22, 2007
    • 1771

    Nonsence Total Nonsence

    Well I had a simple clog in the pipe. It backed up into my shop.
    I decide it would be easeyer to pay someone to clean it out so I could keep on working in the shop. Big mistake...I call roto ruter,,,I tell them I think its a simple clog of papaer....they disagree ofcourse..and this idiot uses a argressive cable for roots. I said I think thats a bad idea it will break the pipe.
    Well long story short ,they broke the pipe. Rather than argue with them I said dude just leve and thanks for the headace. I paid 200.00 for this.
    Now we are cuttign up the floor in the basement and installing new pipe. I just dup up the sewer line out side and fixed it too. If I didn't own a concrete company and didn't know how too and have the tools too. This incedent would have cost 3000.00 at least if I came to fix it for a customer. This is what happenes when you dont unclog the pipes yourself. I have learned my lesson. I will now never hire anyone to do anything again. A snake costs 50.00 to rent roto ruter costs 3000.00 if they screw it up. thanks roto ruter your the best.
    It might not look like it but that hole is about 6 by 6 and was full of sewage when we started digging it. I was a very unhappy camper.
    I have been in construction for at least 20 years and I have dug up at least a thousand pipes and fixed them. I know what a pipe that has had a cutting bit destroy looks like. And thats adzactly what I found when I dug it up. I knew it would be right where the T was. It allows slack in the bit and blows it apart everytime. Thats why you start off easy and get more agressive bits out if needed. You dont start off like a nut job ramming a agressive bit unless your in a hurry and want to get to the next job. If thats the case please skip me and by all means go destroy someone leses sewer line.
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  • Mikey
    Verbose Member
    • Aug 9, 2001
    • 47258

    #2
    Did you have to get a town permit to do that ? ... and if so, do you have to have it inspected before backfilling ?

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    • BlackKnight
      The DarkSide Customizer
      • Apr 16, 2005
      • 14622

      #3
      Sewer Pipes are Suppost to be Green !

      Yeah ..., fun stuff ..., I know a bit about some of that stuff too ..., sounds like you might have a case against the plumbing company if you pursue it ...


      I just had to fix my Toliet 2 days ago ..., and then yesterday put a Transmission in my other car ...., for the 2nd time, but this time I think it works great , and wasn't junk.
      ... The Original Knight ..., Often Imitated, However Never Duplicated. The 1st Knight in Customs.


      always trading for Hot Toys Figures .

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      • Captain_Mego
        Vet.
        • May 22, 2007
        • 1771

        #4
        Permit...lol no I can't wait 2 weeks for that. But I do work for the city they know me pretty well. I'm sure they will ok me. I reshaped the whole farm with a dozer not to long ago and put in colbert pipes. They said Chris could you at least let us know what your doing from time to time...lol But I will be back filling with gravel, 2 ft around pipe, then dirt. Unlike the retards that did the original line. Why they refuse to use gravel is beyound me. I'm going to get a load in the dump truck this week to back fill with. I like to surround the pipe in pete gravle but a lot of guys just toss in dirt and think thats ok. Remeber when you hire someone you get what you pay for. I am not the cheepest concrete guy but we do the best work,and we do it right. We always put in stable subgrade compacted in lifts with rebar tied and drilled on center and I only use high grade 4000 mix. Then I always use a high grade sealer to protect the surface . But a lot of guys don't. Drives me crazy bidding aginst them. They dont pay taxes,they dont have a licence,they dont have insurance. I cant give as cheep of a price and still do the job right. Your concrete is only as good as the subgrade. I Dig it out till I hit good ground then put in 6 10's compacted. God don't get me started...lol I hate hacks I could go on all day about the hacks around here.lol I couldnt beleve there was no gravel around the line when I dug it up.


        here is a link to my concrete company if anyone needs concrete in the area we work in cicni too. check it out http://www.cmconcrete.net

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        • Captain_Mego
          Vet.
          • May 22, 2007
          • 1771

          #5
          Sorry to here that Bk that bites too...Hope the tranny works out for you I hate putting them in.That's a suck job in the winter too.
          That's not the main line it's the feed from the house to the main line.I used a thicker pipe, the green stuff is too thin. I like to over kill the job.
          Yes it bites for sure but why argue with them It would take forever to get them to fix it. At least it wasnt clay pipe thank god. I had to tie to it but it was pvc the rest of the way. Clay pipe sucksssssssssssssssssssssssssss..lol
          Last edited by Captain_Mego; Mar 6, '10, 1:26 PM.

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          • Mikey
            Verbose Member
            • Aug 9, 2001
            • 47258

            #6
            Originally posted by Captain_Mego
            . Clay pipe sucksssssssssssssssssssssssssss..lol
            terracotta sucks, but even some of that old cast iron pipe is nasty too.

            i've seen just one rock in the wrong spot while backfilling or settling crack a cast iron pipe.

            that's why its good to use sand-sand-sand on all occassions - including for pvc

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            • Captain
              Fighting the good fight!
              • Jun 17, 2001
              • 6031

              #7
              Crappy job for a weekend Cap!

              You could always go retro-old school and just build a little wooden shed over that hole you dug, put in a seat with a hole in it, half moon in the door, and call it a day!!

              Seriously though, I know what you mean with the rotor rooter guys. The operator probably had all of 5 minutes training before they hand over the keys to the truck, and the smelly rubber boots. Your lucky you know what your doing, and can handle this yourself. I imagine trying to hire somebody to do it..and do it right..is time consuming, and you probably wouldnt have even broken ground yet!
              "Crayons taste like purple!"

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              • megocrazy
                Museum Trouble Maker
                • Feb 18, 2007
                • 3718

                #8
                I would have your company bill you as a residential job and then send the bill to roto rooter requesting payment for damages incurred by their technician as well as a refund for the $200 you paid for services rendered but not satisfying the condition. If they refuse find someone you know that's a lawyer of any kind and send them a letter on legal letterhead stating you will consider legal actions if the situation is not addressed. Sometimes they'll try to come to a median settlement amount just to stop any potential litigation and bad advertisement. Even if they just refund your $200 it's better than nothing and wouldn't cost anything more than the time to create the letter. I'm just getting past a huge soot issue in my house that I've been dealing with for about 4 months. Now I have to clean everything and paint 4 or 5 rooms.
                It's not a doll it's an action figure.

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                • BlackKnight
                  The DarkSide Customizer
                  • Apr 16, 2005
                  • 14622

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Type3Toys
                  Well, Im building a deck today. Real life really cuts into my toy time!
                  Break out the Whip ! ...
                  ... The Original Knight ..., Often Imitated, However Never Duplicated. The 1st Knight in Customs.


                  always trading for Hot Toys Figures .

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                  • AJ Collector
                    The Biggest Little Man!
                    • Aug 24, 2008
                    • 2148

                    #10
                    Sucks Chris, I still think they were liable for the damage! Glad the shop avoided any real damage, besides your wits of course!

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                    • Captain_Mego
                      Vet.
                      • May 22, 2007
                      • 1771

                      #11
                      Yeah your right about the sand,,we were just out there talking about that. Sand would be the best fill. I was going to use pete gravle but sand would be better. Yeah I know they don't give them any training and no time per job. So really it's not the techs fault. That's why I didn't say much to the guy after he bisted it. I figured it was an easy snake job but I knew ion the back of my mind the things you stated were true about no training and no time per job. So my fault really.
                      Hey John I hope your useing a eastwing and not some air nailer.
                      I want to see a eastwing swinging on that deck . lol A mans hammer.
                      No split wood where you nailed a hundred nails in one spot...lol
                      Or a bunch of srews,I know your the screw gun king.lol
                      Just kidding you buddy. I'm sure you will do a good job.

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                      • Captain_Mego
                        Vet.
                        • May 22, 2007
                        • 1771

                        #12
                        Yeah it ran me behind a little but all in all nothing got ruined.
                        Just a bite in the butt.

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                        • Mikey
                          Verbose Member
                          • Aug 9, 2001
                          • 47258

                          #13
                          Good thing you decided against pea gravel

                          It makes for lousy compaction under the pipe - especially after time.

                          Sand is the best way to go and maybe throw a bucket or 2 of water in there to help compact it under the pipe if the sand is too dry.

                          Lastly, if you're supporting the pipe with bricks or rocks don't forget to take them out while backfilling under.

                          If you don't they make for a prefect spot for the pipe to bust when it settles.
                          Last edited by Mikey; Mar 6, '10, 4:09 PM.

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                          • Captain_Mego
                            Vet.
                            • May 22, 2007
                            • 1771

                            #14
                            You aint kidding Mike,,We were saying the same thing. You sir sound like a fellow construction worker... I like the way you think my friend.

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                            • Mikey
                              Verbose Member
                              • Aug 9, 2001
                              • 47258

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Captain_Mego
                              You aint kidding Mike,,We were saying the same thing. You sir sound like a fellow construction worker... I like the way you think my friend.
                              I've done my share of dirty work

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