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  • Hector
    el Hombre de Acero
    • May 19, 2003
    • 31852

    Avatar overtakes Titanic as the all time box office champ

    'Avatar' Officially Overtakes 'Titanic' For Global Box Office Record With $1.85 Billion - Yahoo! Movies

    It will eventually beat it domestically by next month.

    We all know Gone With the Wind is the all time adjusted gross leader...but it's box office record is deceiving as well.

    For one thing, Gone With the Wind had absolutely no competition whatsoever.

    No TV, no cable with hundreds of channels, no multiple other movies for competition, no video games, no cineplexes, no DVDs, no piracy, no Netflix/Blockbuster, no Walmart, no internet, and the list goes on.

    Plus...

    The most common mistake is to adjust all of Gone With the Wind's 198m gross from 1939 ticket prices into today's ticket prices...

    But GWTW had plenty of re-releases and therefore cannot be adjusted in one single calculation. Even worse are worldwide adjustments as the movie opened in most European countries many years later because of World War II (for example France in 1950 and Germany in 1953).

    Back in 1946 the bible of the business, Variety, started to compile a list of the biggest rental grossers (the studio's share of the box office gross) of the year and in 1948 it began an All-Time Rentals list...

    To make things easier I will simply post the total rental amount earned by GWTW every ten years:

    1948: $22,000,000 Number 1 of all-time*
    1958: $33,500,000 Number 1 of all-time
    1968: $70,400,000 Number 2 of all-time
    1978: $76,700,000 Number 9 of all-time

    It is obvious that GWTW made the most of its money in its third decade of release, adjusting the total gross by 1939 ticket prices is just foolish...

    BTW...Star Wars was re-released as well.


    There's no denying...Avatar's run has shocked everyone...I myself though Titanic's box office was untouchable for decades to come...but man...James Cameron is truly the king of the world...the dude has the midas touch.
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  • Hector
    el Hombre de Acero
    • May 19, 2003
    • 31852

    #2
    On the other side of the coin...

    "To be fair, you've got to look at the ticket prices - these prices are so much more than they were for 'Titanic,' especially for the 3-D movies - and especially for a 3d movie in IMAX," he added. "And it's not like 'Up In The Air' or 'Spider-Man 3' made this much with a regular ticket pirce, so when all the dust settles, it's only fair to have that in the back of your mind." - Access Hollywood's Scott "Movie" Mantz.
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    • Bill
      Parminant Memble
      • Oct 20, 2002
      • 4139

      #3
      Great time for escapism, apparently.

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      • huedell
        Museum Ball Eater
        • Dec 31, 2003
        • 11069

        #4
        I may never see the freakin' thing...but, man Cameron must feel god-like
        after topping his other movie
        "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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        • TrueDave
          Toy Maker
          • Jan 12, 2008
          • 2343

          #5
          Gone with the wind had to compete with Wizard of Oz didnt it? But I seem to remember Wizard didn't really hit it 's popularity untill it was released to Televison as a Christmas film.

          Have you ever seen "Looker" the early 1980s horror/sci fi movie about computer generated actors?

          Just like Auto workers threw a fit when robots came along I would be nervous if I was an actor in Hollywood.

          Model makers, Stunt men, costumers, set dressers,make up artists, puppeteers and now actors all replaced.

          Silent movies are gone, radio dramas are gone, black and white films are gone, stop action is gone.

          We have seen the death of the Live Action film.

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          • thunderbolt
            Hi Ernie!!!
            • Feb 15, 2004
            • 34211

            #6
            ^^^ There are directors that are bucking the trend of CGI around. Del Toro avoids it when possible.
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            • ctc
              Fear the monkeybat!
              • Aug 16, 2001
              • 11183

              #7
              >I myself though Titanic's box office was untouchable for decades to come

              I didn't. Every year or two we have boxoffice records being broken. I think it's due to advancements in marketing more than anything else.

              >I would be nervous if I was an actor in Hollywood

              I've been told by a few folks that this is why producers push the CGI so hard. They're anticipating the day when all movies can literally be pushbutton.

              Don C.

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              • Hector
                el Hombre de Acero
                • May 19, 2003
                • 31852

                #8
                The sky is falling...the oceans are coming...all hell is gonna brake loose because of Avatar...RUN FOR YOUR LIVES.........

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                • Adam West
                  Museum CPA
                  • Apr 14, 2003
                  • 6822

                  #9
                  I guess I'm one of the few who has yet to see Avatar. I guess there is nothing about it that looks particularly appealing to me but I guess I'll see it on DVD although I'm sure the effect won't be the same.

                  Ironically, I never saw Titanic in the theaters either. Although I don't go to many movies over the course of the year (it is really expensive for a family of 5 to see even a matinee these days...throw in some snacks and you are down about $70 easy); we do see about 6 movies a year.

                  The only for me so far in 2010 is The Blind Side which is an excellent movie. There is something about sports movie underdogs that special nerve with me.
                  "The farther we go, the more the ultimate explanation recedes from us, and all we have left is faith."
                  ~Vaclav Hlavaty

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                  • palitoy
                    live. laugh. lisa needs braces
                    • Jun 16, 2001
                    • 59789

                    #10
                    I probably won't end up seeing it, I haven't got many baby sitting options and that makes movies $80-100 nights on average. We have to really want to see a film in order to get that going and while I have no hate towards this movie, I'm just not that motivated to see it.

                    When we finally do get a parentel to take the kids, rest assured, Avatar will be long out of theatres and the wife and I will have our choice of several movies we wouldn't watch on TBS. It's a curse.
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                    • The Toyroom
                      The Packaging King
                      • Dec 31, 2004
                      • 16653

                      #11
                      I haven't seen it either....nor do I plan to. Just doesn't seem to appeal to me. I wouldn't even be down for a free DVD rental...no desire.
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                      • MegoMark71
                        Permanent Member
                        • Dec 18, 2008
                        • 3383

                        #12
                        I thought about going to see it. Changed my mind and went outside and found a dirt pile and started looking at it till some grass grew.

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                        • Mikey
                          Verbose Member
                          • Aug 9, 2001
                          • 47258

                          #13
                          I'm not big on computer animated kids movies so i'll pass.

                          I still never even seen Shreck and all them other ones (and don't plan too)

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                          • kennermike
                            Permanent Member
                            • Nov 4, 2007
                            • 3367

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mikey01
                            I'm not big on computer animated kids movies so i'll pass.

                            I still never even seen Shreck and all them other ones (and don't plan too)
                            Im kind with you on this .Im not going to see it cause James Cameron is a jerk not only to the people he works with but also to his fans.plus he dosent need my ten bucks .plus I think Tron Legacy coming out in a year is going to blow it outta the water in terms of CGI

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                            • Gorn Captain
                              Invincible Ironing Man
                              • Feb 28, 2008
                              • 10549

                              #15
                              Haven't seen it yet. To be honest, neither the story nor the heapload of CG is appealing to me.
                              And as for biggest grossing film ever: ET once had that honour. Anybody still a "huge fan" of that film? Any die-hard Titanic lovers left?
                              I didn't think so....
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