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I think it's kinda sad how people mouth off to cops like cops are "the enemy"
and they must be derided for being such "pigs". All the free speech in the
world couldn't convince me otherwise.
I understand that and I don't believe anyone should be talked to like a dog. I think you and me are on the same page there. What I don't agree with is how he handles it. Yes, there were some (not all) in that crowd that were saying some bad stuff (I would not have said those things). BUT it becomes the officer's JOB to diffuse the situation, not treat it like an afterschool brawl. His actions escalated the matter and he used his gun to garner the result he wanted. That goes beyond what is fair and civil in an arguement. That is abusing the law. He is a police officer and therefore is allowed to carry a firearm with guidelines on when and how to use it. What he did was outside of those guidelines and a breech of community trust.
Originally posted by huedell
If you have the story right, then I guess so, and all's well that ends well.I don't think cops are above the law. I just think they deserve some elbow room to enforce it. Now if he got hit by a snowball in totally unrelated to law scenario, it's starting to become clearer to me why he was in the wrong. I guess I still don't really understand the story.
Elbow room is broadstroking it just a bit. That gun is for very specific purposes. When an officer pulls a gun, it is to protect HIS LIFE, not to wave it as a threat. If you go back and watch that video in the beginning he is waving that gun. Where is his life in danger? It's not. He's just fed up and he's decided he's going to bully the crowd. From that point forward he has incited the response you hear and if you notice when the other officer comes on the scene that crowd runs to tell him about it, not gang up on him too. So what you have here is a rogue cop trying to apply law as it strikes him on a personal level.
Only in America would someone pull a gun to protect themselves from a snowball.
Discuss.
Why? So we can go off on how "lame" America is? Sorry...don't feel that way. This one cop with a gun at a snowball fight doesn't hurt
my impression of my country.
"No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix
Where is his life in danger? It's not. He's just fed up and he's decided he's going to bully the crowd. From that point forward he has incited the response you hear and if you notice when the other officer comes on the scene that crowd runs to tell him about it, not gang up on him too.
That's really what I should've focused on...but honestly, after only watching
the clip once, I did not notice that stuff.
Originally posted by MIB41
So what you have here is a rogue cop trying to
apply law as it strikes him on a personal level.
As I said earlier, if this is the case and he's then going to be punished for it...
then all's well that ends well.
I guiess that crowd just seems a bit too high on their horses for my taste--
thank goodness I'M not a cop with a gun, heh-heh----just kiddin'
"No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix
No firearms allowed during KISS discussions. It's all good bro.
heh-heh---I'm sure you can see that I'm not disagreeing with you or the
others persay---it's just I thought I'd comment on the impression the crowd
gave me (after YEARS of seeing simillar scenarios).
BTW re: the KISS thing me and my buddy were doing---I think I may be
moving it to YOUTUBE of all places...and the only I'll gun I'll pulling
out there is my LOVE GUN!
heh-heh---again----just kidding
"No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix
heh-heh---I'm sure you can see that I'm not disagreeing with you or the
others persay---it's just I thought I'd comment on the impression the crowd
gave me (after YEARS of seeing simillar scenarios).
BTW re: the KISS thing me and my buddy were doing---I think I may be
moving it to YOUTUBE of all places...and the only I'll gun I'll pulling
out there is my LOVE GUN!
heh-heh---again----just kidding
Keep me posted! I would like to partake one day. I think it would be a great discussion.
Hue, i'm really surprise to see you siding in for the cop.
After hearing how everything went down...I can't say I "side" with the cop.
More like, I think the "mob of people" were out of line for what seemed
like "taunting" him...and exascerbating the situation, as it seemed...
Originally posted by Mikey01
Never thought i'd see you on "the man's" side
I dunno the theory on why that crowd rubbed me the wrong way Mike--
-maybe it's because I grew up around a bunch of troublemakers
that always ended up smartmouthing cops we got in trouble with WAY
before the cops even "really" hassled us.
"No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix
You know during the Boston Massacre the soldiers were getting pelted with Ice and snowballs before they shot. some of the ice even injured some of the British soldiers. I'm just wondering instead of pulling a weapon why he didn't approach them or arrest them.
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