KISS - Sonic Boom (official album cover)

[GlobalObserver]

Ew... A tad cartoony for my taste. Kiss should have brought back Ken Kelly who did the Destroyer and Love Gun album covers. Well I'm looking forward to the songs. Being that it will be a three disc set for such a low price is great. That kind of a deal may finally land Kiss a number one record. Boy, Peter and Ace will never hear the end of it, if they do. Here is one possible bonus tune with Tommy Thayer on lead vocals.

YouTube - kiss new demo song 2009 for new cd tommy thayer on vocals

That "demo" has pretty much been dismissed as a fake.

[MIB41]

Thanks for the head's up. I had not heard that. I like it better than the real song KISS debuting at their site KISSONLINE.com Home

[spaceace35]

YouTube - New KISS Song Preview - Modern Day Delilah

theres the sample incase kol isnt working

[cjefferys]

Rerecording the greatest hits is strictly for financial reasons. Gene and Paul won't have to give any royalties to Peter or Ace if Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer are on the record.

Ah good point, I didn't think about that. Kind of crappy for them to do that, but it really doesn't surprise me.

[Cosmicman]

This is KISS. Heck anyone else with their "bring back Peter and Ace" comments...

They did it in a reunion tour up to the 2000 and something Final Tour and it is done. Peter and Ace were just two pawns that got caught up with the fame of the band and they got lucky.

They eventually hung themselves with their own chemical shenanigans.

Lets get back to being KISS!

KISS is not about these two drunks. It's about Gene and Paul and it always has been.

Some people are just finding out about Anton Fig and Bob Kulick playing Ace and Peter's parts in the 70s on the studio albums because they were too drunk or high to play...

Oh. You think KISS ALIVE I and II was about how good Peter and Ace were?
Wrong again! They had to bring in Anton Fig (drummer) to over dubbed parts on the drum tracks so that the drum solo that was pasted together from various shows so it didn't sound like ***. Same with some of Ace Frehley's leads. Bob Kulick (Bruce's bald and better brother) got paid a lot of money to fix Ace's guitar screw ups!!
The crowd was overdubbed in sections from live screams from Woodstock.

The talented KISS is back! I am so stoked! I am a big fan of non Ace and Peter albums like Revenge, Carnival Of Souls, Hot In The Shade, Asylum, Kiss Alive III, Animalize...etc.


Did you know that Tommy Thayer (who is the Spaceman now) was Ace Frehley's guitar tech and had to show Ace how to replay his own solos? Doesn't that tell you something? When Ace finally exited KISS, Tommy was the perfect choice for Spaceman.


Oh by the way, I am writing for the Torture Chamber again. I get to chew on rock subjects like this. Anyone want a subscription PM me your address and I'll have Marty send you a copy of the rag mag.

Or another good place to good is my friend Kerry's Rockin Rebels site. He is also a member here and he may very well chew my *** about the Ace Frehley digs if he sees this.

Rockin Rebels

[MIB41]

Well to be entirely honest, any album from the 70's could be said to be a non Ace and Peter effort in some respects. Now while I wouldn't disagree with anything you've said Wrathdemon, let's not fall completely off the other side of reason and suggest Gene and Paul 'did it all' either. The spectre of Kiss as we know it is truly the result of Bill Aucoin's ideas. He took four talented musicians and molded them into an incredibly stunning visual that carried them through the 70's. Aucoin purposely sought out Bob Ezrin to give them a definable image in the same vein Ezrin did for Alice Cooper on his first solo album in 1975 entitled "Welcome to my Nightmare". It was Aucoin's idea to hide their identities. It was Aucoin's idea to market them as more than a band. And it was Aucoin who told Kiss they needed a rallying song for their fans to identify with, which gave birth to Rock n'Roll all nite. Peter's song "Beth" launched Kiss into orbit and made them a household name by showing the "commercial" side to Kiss. Many future guitarists picked up their craft because of Ace during those days as well. And while Ace may not have been the star in the studio, no one can deny his notes on stage. So it all counts. Gene and Paul took Bill Aucoin's blueprint and have steered this juggernaut ever since and deserve loads of credit (Paul more than Gene). But in the end, KISS is and will always be a collaborative effort. Paul is producing this new record, so it will live or die by his lead. I have alot of confidence he'll give us a good record.

[spaceace35]

This is KISS. Heck anyone else with their "bring back Peter and Ace" comments...

They did it in a reunion tour up to the 2000 and something Final Tour and it is done. Peter and Ace were just two pawns that got caught up with the fame of the band and they got lucky.

They eventually hung themselves with their own chemical shenanigans.

Lets get back to being KISS!

KISS is not about these two drunks. It's about Gene and Paul and it always has been.

Some people are just finding out about Anton Fig and Bob Kulick playing Ace and Peter's parts in the 70s on the studio albums because they were too drunk or high to play...

Oh. You think KISS ALIVE I and II was about how good Peter and Ace were?
Wrong again! They had to bring in Anton Fig (drummer) to over dubbed parts on the drum tracks so that the drum solo that was pasted together from various shows so it didn't sound like ***. Same with some of Ace Frehley's leads. Bob Kulick (Bruce's bald and better brother) got paid a lot of money to fix Ace's guitar screw ups!!
The crowd was overdubbed in sections from live screams from Woodstock.

The talented KISS is back! I am so stoked! I am a big fan of non Ace and Peter albums like Revenge, Carnival Of Souls, Hot In The Shade, Asylum, Kiss Alive III, Animalize...etc.


Did you know that Tommy Thayer (who is the Spaceman now) was Ace Frehley's guitar tech and had to show Ace how to replay his own solos? Doesn't that tell you something? When Ace finally exited KISS, Tommy was the perfect choice for Spaceman.


Oh by the way, I am writing for the Torture Chamber again. I get to chew on rock subjects like this. Anyone want a subscription PM me your address and I'll have Marty send you a copy of the rag mag.

Or another good place to good is my friend Kerry's Rockin Rebels site. He is also a member here and he may very well chew my *** about the Ace Frehley digs if he sees this.

Rockin Rebels

i dont agree with everything you posted lol
tommy started out in black and blue then went onto playing ace in the tribute band cold gin. then hooked up with kiss when they put out kisstory he did a ton of work with them on that then he became kiss's road manager of sorts so hes done quite a bit in kiss history including cowriting on several tunes. i dont believe he was really aces guitar tech yes he did help ace out for the reunion

hell do you think gene played bass on most of the recorded tracks?? nope
eric carr played some and bruce kulick also did too

yes rockin rebels is a cool lil site

[huedell]

FYI KISS fans---my friend and I will be posting us geeking out over KISS in KISS-related discussions a couple times a week for the forseeable future
on a myspace site.

This is the address:

PARTNERS IN CRIME - KISS DISCUSSION TALK SHOW on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Downloads


"friend" us if you'd like...

I don't usually "pimp myself out" here in Mego-land---but this is more a
"KISS project" than a "huedell" project...yeah, Gene would love that I'm working for him to promote HIS band

Rock on guys.

[GlobalObserver]

Just out of curiosity. What was KISS' newest album when you first became a fan? For me, it was ALIVE! (1975).

[huedell]

Just out of curiosity. What was KISS' newest album when you first became a fan? For me, it was ALIVE! (1975).

Me and a lot of my friends are 80s guys.

I was an ANIMALIZE/ASYLUM era KISS newbie. (1984/85)

[MIB41]

Just out of curiosity. What was KISS' newest album when you first became a fan? For me, it was ALIVE! (1975).

Same here. When Alive came out, one of my best friends picked it up and we listened to it all weekend. Most people can't relate, but their image mixed with that music in the mid-70's was like the Who's Tommy meets the universal monsters. Kiss were very edgy in the early and mid-70's for their appearance. It was theater and grand scale rock at it's finest. I've been hooked ever since.

[spaceace35]

my brother got me into them around 1975 too

[rche]

The over the top comic book appeal was fantastic for me at the time. Tho I didn't really 'get' most of the sly undertones (yeah, right) until much later. I just liked the rock theater.

I was brought on board by a friend's older brother who showed me the cover to Dressed to Kill and let us hang out in his room while the record played. Later on, he loaned me the first three records and my pop recorded them onto cassette on the GINORMOUS deck he had hooked up to our HiFi. My pop was always wanting to be cutting edge with his entertainment. The records were from the Originals set, which is probably a good thing as I know my mom thought it was a bad idea for me to listen to those guys and if she had seen the Hotter than Hell cover, it would have been over before it even started. As it was, there was a picture of Gene with a tuba and they were deemed OK and, I suppose, my folks figgured I wouldn't know what the hell they were singing about anyway. I used to carry those cassettes with me and play them on one of those mono portable players with the built in speaker - about the size of a shoebox. I recall having arguments with kids at the playground about who was better Elvis or Kiss. That was first and second grade for me.

good times

[Zemo]

The talented KISS is back!

Well that's the funniest thing I've read all day. Thanks!

[cjefferys]

Oh. You think KISS ALIVE I and II was about how good Peter and Ace were?
Wrong again! They had to bring in Anton Fig (drummer) to over dubbed parts on the drum tracks so that the drum solo that was pasted together from various shows so it didn't sound like ***.

Are you sure about Fig's involvement with the first two Alive albums? From what I've always heard and read, it was after Ace used him on his '78 solo album that KISS had him participate with the band (i.e. performing most of the drums for Dynasty, except for "Dirty Livin", and all the drumming on Unmasked). I don't think he worked with KISS prior to 1978, but don't doubt that someone overdubbed some of Peter's drums on Alive I and II.

hell do you think gene played bass on most of the recorded tracks?? nope
eric carr played some and bruce kulick also did too

Gene had a long period of near uninvolvement on studio albums, when he was too busy with his Hollywood "career". Along with Eric and Bruce, Ace and Paul also played a lot of bass guitar on non-Gene written studio tracks.