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  • Hector
    el Hombre de Acero
    • May 19, 2003
    • 31852

    #46
    Originally posted by type1kirk
    It's no secret Michael Jackson wants to be white with a passion.

    Funny thing is, he don't want to be Caucasian --- HE WANTS TO BE WHITE
    Thank you.

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    • Hector
      el Hombre de Acero
      • May 19, 2003
      • 31852

      #47
      Originally posted by Vortigern99
      Hector said that MJ wanted to look "white" and that simply isn't true.
      Correction...he wants to look like the Phantom of the Opera.

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      • Hector
        el Hombre de Acero
        • May 19, 2003
        • 31852

        #48
        Good posts, Hue...I didn't know you had it in you.

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        • huedell
          Museum Ball Eater
          • Dec 31, 2003
          • 11069

          #49
          Originally posted by Hector
          Good posts, Hue...I didn't know you had it in you.

          Hey----sometimes I can think alike a brilliant mind Hec
          "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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          • Hector
            el Hombre de Acero
            • May 19, 2003
            • 31852

            #50
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            • thunderbolt
              Hi Ernie!!!
              • Feb 15, 2004
              • 34211

              #51
              The only difference between MJ and guys like John Couey (sp?) is money and fame. If MJ did the same crap while dirt poor in a trailer park, he'd be strung up or in prison.
              You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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              • Vortigern99
                Scholar/Gentleman/Weirdo
                • Jul 2, 2006
                • 1539

                #52
                Have you ever heard of a false accusation?

                Money was the motive for the parents of those children. The testimonies were contradictory, the cases unproven.

                So please... don't excoriate a person based on hearsay and rumor.

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                • Bill
                  Parminant Memble
                  • Oct 20, 2002
                  • 4139

                  #53
                  Money is the motive for way too many things these days, but if you can describe a birthmark on my sack I've been up to no good.

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                  • Mikey
                    Verbose Member
                    • Aug 9, 2001
                    • 47258

                    #54
                    On that one show a few years ago he admited to a British reporter he sleeps in the same bed NUDE with young boys which are also nude.

                    How can anyone believe his credibility and innocence after an admission like that ?

                    Open your eyes !!!!!!!

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                    • Vortigern99
                      Scholar/Gentleman/Weirdo
                      • Jul 2, 2006
                      • 1539

                      #55
                      Open your own eyes, rather than relying on hearsay and false accusation.

                      From Revenge, greed at root of charges, Geragos says - Michael Jackson Trial- msnbc.com

                      Jackson and his accuser were shown holding hands during that show and saying they slept in the same room but not in the same bed.

                      Los Angeles County child welfare officers began investigating Jackson’s relationship with the child on Feb. 14, prompted by a complaint to a county hot line from a school administrator who saw the show.

                      The investigation, which ended Feb. 27, found there was no basis for molestation allegations after the boy, his mother and his siblings denied them. Details of the interview were included in a memo leaked to the media this month.

                      The boy’s family also filed a lawsuit claiming the boy, his brother and mother were beaten by mall security guards in 1998 after the boy left a Southern California J.C. Penney store carrying clothes that had not been paid for. The lawsuit also alleged the mother was sexually assaulted. The family received a $137,500 settlement.

                      Russell Halpern, an attorney for the boy’s father, has said the boy’s mother had a “Svengali-like ability” to make her children lie in testimony.

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                      • thunderbolt
                        Hi Ernie!!!
                        • Feb 15, 2004
                        • 34211

                        #56
                        Yeah and money can sweep anything under the rug. Where there's smoke there's fire.
                        You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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                        • Vortigern99
                          Scholar/Gentleman/Weirdo
                          • Jul 2, 2006
                          • 1539

                          #57
                          Here's the "smoke" about Janet Arvizo, the mother of the boy involved in the 2003 case against Jackson:

                          http://www.geocities.com/nickoblake/jackson.htm

                          In 2000, Arvizo consulted with an attorney about filing molestation charges against Jackson seven months before her son had met the star.

                          In 1998, Arvizo, her husband and their three children accused security guards from JCPenney and Tower Records of physically and sexually assaulting them after pulling them over for shoplifting. By numerous accounts, Janet invented the assault charges out of whole cloth. JC Penney paid some $150,000 to the family.

                          A psychiatrist hired by JCPenney during the investigation said that the children's testimonies sounded scripted and rehearsed, a suspicion that was confirmed by their father. In an affidavit, David Arvizo admitted that the children had been coached by their mother to lie. According to Russell Halpern, an attorney for Mr. Arvizo, “[The mother] wrote all of their testimony. I actually saw the script.”

                          A month before the family were to receive the settlement money from Penney, Arvizo filed for divorce from her husband, citing child abuse as a key factor. This charge was initially denied by the children, who later recanted this denial and accused their father of all sorts of heinous patently incredible abuse.

                          When Janet Arvizo returned home and discovered that the Department of Children and Family Services had interviewed her children without her there, she immediately got in contact with the agency. Social workers returned to the family’s apartment and interviewed the Arvizos again. In the presence of their mother, the children drastically changed their story, alleging that their father was indeed abusive.

                          Janet Arvizo further claimed that her ex-husband had molested and falsely imprisoned their daughter 12 years earlier, allegations that only materialized during the custody battle. According to court documents, Mrs. Arvizo “could not provide any other pertinent information regarding [the alleged molestation].”

                          Ostensibly to help pay for her son John's medical expenses, a local newspaper managed to raise a total of $965 for the Arvizo family, money that Mrs. Arvizo wanted to have "sent to her in her name, at her home address." Investigative reporter Harvey Levin later revealed that all of John Arvizo's medical bills were covered by insurance. "There were no medical bills," Levin reported. "The father of this boy was covered, the entire family covered, by insurance, one hundred percent. They didn't have to pay a cent." Evidently, Mrs. Arvizo had lied to the newspaper, using her son's illness as a means to con readers into giving her money.

                          In February 2003, John Arvizo was featured in Living with Michael Jackson, a British documentary on Jackson’s life. While journalist Martin Bashir’s interview with John briefly touched on the positive influence that Jackson had had on the boy’s recovery, the focus of the interview shifted when John announced - seemingly out of nowhere - that he had once spent the night in Jackson’s bedroom.

                          “There was one night, I asked him if I could stay in the bedroom and he let me stay in the bedroom,” John told Bashir. Jackson quickly pointed out that the boy, accompanied by his younger brother, had slept in Jackson’s bed while Jackson slept in a sleeping bag on the floor. This scene - along with Jackson’s claim that there is nothing inappropriate about falling asleep next to a child - led to a firestorm of controversy.

                          (Notice there is NOTHING in this about sleeping "nude" next to the child, as Type1Kirk has bewilderingly imagined.)

                          If this isn't enough to convince anyone, or if you'd care to discuss the facts of the 1993 case, I'll be glad to offer more information.

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                          • Mikey
                            Verbose Member
                            • Aug 9, 2001
                            • 47258

                            #58
                            (Notice there is NOTHING in this about sleeping "nude" next to the child, as Type1Kirk has bewilderingly imagined.)

                            I seen that on a special a few years ago.
                            A British reporter made a documentary special for BBC.
                            Michael Jackson was even on the show and said that.

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                            • Vortigern99
                              Scholar/Gentleman/Weirdo
                              • Jul 2, 2006
                              • 1539

                              #59
                              Here's a little bit more:

                              According to the charges, the alleged molestation began on February 7th – the day after Martin Bashir’s Living with Michael Jackson documentary aired in the United States. Many found it implausible that Jackson would have started to molest the boy while in the midst of a huge scandal involving him and past accusations of child abuse.

                              Furthermore, both the Department of Children and Family Services and the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department had investigated Jackson in February 2003 and concluded based on their interviews with the Arvizos that no abuse had taken place. It seems unlikely that Jackson could have molested the boy while being investigated for suspected child abuse by two separate government agencies.

                              But perhaps the most damning blow to the prosecution’s case was Mark Geragos’ claim that Jackson had an alibi. “The timeline is ridiculous. Michael has a concrete, ironclad alibi for the dates they are saying this abuse took place. The fact of the matter is, no abuse ever happened.”

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                              • Vortigern99
                                Scholar/Gentleman/Weirdo
                                • Jul 2, 2006
                                • 1539

                                #60
                                EDIT: Kirk, you're thinking of the Bashir doc. You're misremembering or imagining the "nude" part.

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