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  • Vortigern99
    Scholar/Gentleman/Weirdo
    • Jul 2, 2006
    • 1539

    #31
    Yes, I like View to a Kill, Walken is a great villain, and it's also my fave Bond song... BUT the action scenes (except the climax) are laughably bad, and Tanya is terrible.

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    • wolfie
      Persistent Member
      • Dec 31, 2007
      • 1567

      #32
      View to a Kill was Moore's last Bond film by his own choice. He objected strongly to the scenes where Walken machine guns helpless people in the water and said he no longer wished to be associated with the films if this was the path they were going down.

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      • Vortigern99
        Scholar/Gentleman/Weirdo
        • Jul 2, 2006
        • 1539

        #33
        Hmmm. He was also showing his age to a considerably larger degree than in any previous outing. The man was practically geriatric by this point. I think Moore's moral objection may have been a cover story rather than the truth.

        Certainly there are other Bond movies in which unarmed people die on-screen, and in any case those "helpless people" were knowingly and willingly planting bombs along the San Andreas fault and preparing to flood it with sea water, which would have killed millions. So, not that I am for the death penalty, but in the context of this science fiction story those characters got what they deserved.

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        • Goblin19
          Talkative Member
          • May 2, 2002
          • 6124

          #34
          I'm a huge Bond fan. I always think it's neat how different Bond fans' lists are, though Goldfinger usually appears nar the top.

          1. Goldfinger
          2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
          3. Dr. No
          4. From Russia With Love
          5. For Your Eyes Only
          6. Casino Royale
          7. The Spy Who Loved Me
          8. Diamonds Are Forever
          9. Licence To Kill
          10. Die Another Day
          11. Octopussy
          12. Goldeneye
          13. Quantum of Solace
          14. Thunderball
          15. Never Say Never Again (if you count it)
          16. Tomorrow never Dies
          17. Man With the Golden Gun
          18. The Living Daylights
          19. You Only Live Twice
          20. The World Is Not Enough
          21. A View To a Kill
          22. Moonraker
          23. Live and Let Die (I can't stand the hillbilly sherriff. He also nearly ruins MWTGG)

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          • wolfie
            Persistent Member
            • Dec 31, 2007
            • 1567

            #35
            Originally posted by Goblin19

            (I can't stand the hillbilly sherriff.

            Thats Sheriff JW Pepper to you boy.

            He's great.

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            • Mikey
              Verbose Member
              • Aug 9, 2001
              • 47258

              #36
              He is great !!!

              No matter what movie he play's on, he's always the same character

              See Superman-2

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              • Nostalgiabuff
                Muddling through
                • Oct 4, 2008
                • 11424

                #37
                I always thought Connery was the best bond but his movies were too cartoonish for me and I can't sit through them
                I grew up in the Moore era, I did not like Dalton but did like Brosnon. Still up in the air with Craig. I liked Casino Royal but have not seen the new one yet.
                Favorite 5.
                1. For your Eyes Only
                2. Live and Let Die
                3. Goldeneye
                4. Spy who Loved Me
                5. Moonraker - just kidding, this movie was a mess. 5. is actually Die Another Day. Love that Halle Berry.

                worst film by far was Never Say Never Again. Plot sucked, replacement actors sucked and Connery was way too old by that point.

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                • Brue
                  User without title
                  • Sep 29, 2005
                  • 4246

                  #38
                  Most bond movies look pretty much the same within one actor's era so I have a hard time picking an order.

                  I usually love bond films.

                  Connery and Moore are my favs then Brosnan then GL and TD the DC

                  I came on board with the Moore era so, though I understand the extra campiness and his weakness in the role, I think fondly of his era.
                  So I think Moonraker tops the list
                  I haven't seen the newest Bond because CR was too bad.
                  (did I just turn Vort's list upside down?)

                  I also saw most of the connery ones on tv as a kid and loved them.
                  This is where I really merge one film into the next so it is hard to order them.

                  Dalton and Lazenby can stay or go. Adequate bonds and bond films.

                  Brosnan was in my other favorite (besides MR) bond movie: Golden Eye.
                  Tomorrow was OK. I HATED Die another day <the worst bond movie to date.

                  Best Bond Girl? Too many to choose from.

                  Worst: Christmas Jones and Jinx

                  oh yeah best song - the one by Garbage
                  Last edited by Brue; Jan 10, '09, 3:37 PM.

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                  • Mikey
                    Verbose Member
                    • Aug 9, 2001
                    • 47258

                    #39
                    I was really a classic Bond freak (Connery and Moore) before the Austin Powers movies came out.

                    When I seen Powers I really liked it a lot ... I never noticed at the time but it kind of ruined my appreciation for classic Bond.

                    After Austin Powers, if I watch a classic Bond I always think of the Powers references --- I was just watching Goldfinger the other day and kept thinking of Random Task

                    I think a true good satire movie marks and end of an era .. Whether it's Austin Powers, Blazing Saddles, Spaceballs, Airplane etc.

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                    • Vortigern99
                      Scholar/Gentleman/Weirdo
                      • Jul 2, 2006
                      • 1539

                      #40
                      I agree to a certain extent about the whole "end of an era" thing. After 20+ movies, the over-the-top villains and world-domination plots start to seem silly, even or especially if the movies themselves try to take it all seriously.

                      But that's in part what distinguishes the new Daniel Craig films -- they're more-or-less realistic action/spy thrillers, with gripping plots, real-world physics, real-world techno-gadgets, etc.

                      How someone can enjoy Moonraker and hate on Casino Royale is a question for the ages. I guess it comes down to what you hope for/expect from Bond: Goofy one-liners and physics-defying super-heroism, or gritty realism and no-punches-pulled action sequences? Give me the latter any day of the week!

                      EDIT: After watching Tomorrow Never Dies (Brosnan's second) last night, I've elevated that film's status to a three-star affair, and subsequently shuffled around the middle section of my fave list in the opening post. ;-)
                      Last edited by Vortigern99; Jan 10, '09, 3:26 PM.

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                      • Mikey
                        Verbose Member
                        • Aug 9, 2001
                        • 47258

                        #41
                        I always liked Moonraker.

                        I didn't love it, but I like it.

                        It entertained me.

                        The whole "gritty realism" thing kind of works in reverse for me.

                        Jamers Bond is pure bunk (but I love it) --- trying to make him real and gritty is like putting perfume on a pig.

                        It's the same way I feel about the new Batman movies.

                        It's still fiction ... But it try's to hide itself as something else.

                        Hard to explain.

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                        • wolfie
                          Persistent Member
                          • Dec 31, 2007
                          • 1567

                          #42
                          Originally posted by type1kirk

                          Jamers Bond

                          Played by Rogers Moore presumably.

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                          • wolfie
                            Persistent Member
                            • Dec 31, 2007
                            • 1567

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Brue

                            So I think Moonraker tops the list
                            I haven't seen the newest Bond because CR was too bad.

                            oh yeah best song - the one by Garbage

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                            • Mikey
                              Verbose Member
                              • Aug 9, 2001
                              • 47258

                              #44
                              Best Bond songs ? ......

                              Here's my list ......

                              1. Nobody Does It Better
                              2. The Man With the Golden Gun
                              3. Live and Let Die
                              4. All Time High
                              5. Goldfinger

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                              • Mikey
                                Verbose Member
                                • Aug 9, 2001
                                • 47258

                                #45
                                Worst Bond Songs .....

                                1. Goldeneye
                                2. From Russia With Love
                                3. You Only Live Twice
                                4. For Your Eyes Only
                                5. Thunderball

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