It's true,never mix business w/ freindship

[RG]

Yeah i'm done with this guy.I told him if it was a broker he was dealing with he would'nt be pulling this,and he tells me that I'm a friend and I should understand,and that i'm not a broker so technically he has no obligation to give me anything.I told him to give my sister the money and if I see him in front of me,I'm just going to knock him out.

Now he's texting me saying he's sorry and that it doesn't have to come to this,what a jerk.Like if he's doing me a favor or something by giving me the crappy $400

Yeah Bill that was my plan,to give it to my sister for stuff that she needed to fix in the home

yeah ok after reading that ... forget him for sure! He's a lost cause

[Drain]

Take the Money, cash the check, once it clears make it perfectly clear to him that he screwed you out of $350 and you are going to let everyone you know about it. The last thing any business person wants is a bad sales repratation. Word of mouth can make or break a business. He can threaten you with slander, but does have a leg to stand on it court. Word of mouth is a good/bad thing. I worked with a guy about 10 ten ago who wife was a server at a local restaurant. I mention one day in the break room, during break, that she was my server the last time I ate at the restaurant. His response, jokingly, was that I better have let his wife a good tip or next time I eat there, he will have his wife spit in my food before she serves it. We were not alone in the breakroom. A week later I found out that his wife was fired for her job because of complaints that she spit in customers food. Like I said word of mouth.

[toys2cool]

Take the Money, cash the check, once it clears make it perfectly clear to him that he screwed you out of $350 and you are going to let everyone you know about it. The last thing any business person wants is a bad sales repratation. Word of mouth can make or break a business. He can threaten you with slander, but does have a leg to stand on it court. Word of mouth is a good/bad thing. I worked with a guy about 10 ten ago who wife was a server at a local restaurant. I mention one day in the break room, during break, that she was my server the last time I ate at the restaurant. His response, jokingly, was that I better have let his wife a good tip or next time I eat there, he will have his wife spit in my food before she serves it. We were not alone in the breakroom. A week later I found out that his wife was fired for her job because of complaints that she spit in customers food. Like I said word of mouth.

wow that's nasty

[Drain]

Word of mouth can make you or break you. My Uncle Bob told me that back in the late 80s. He was a top salesman for General Electric for many years, a wall of sales awards wall-plaques. When he let GE to start his own company, his word as saleman was so good, almost all of his customers from his former sell area, left GE and did business with his new company. He final sold his company to one GE's competitors and they keep him on as company president, they feared him starting another company and taking his customers with him. He taught all his sons/my cousins to be good salesman and know they each make over $100,000 a year plus bonuses. The companies they work for doesn't want to get rid of they because they too will take their customers with them.

[starsky]

your little bro /friend definitely owes you money but i can see why he is changing the deal. the $4500 he's getting is not really $4500. the amount is his commission and as such commission checks are taxed at about 35% so his check is about $2900 less that $600 mentoring fee so it comes to $2325. now if he pays you the $750 which he definitely owes you he's down to $1575. just tell him to pay you on his next sale. which is more than fair on your part. that will test the depth of your friendship with him.

[Zemo]

your little bro /friend definitely owes you money but i can see why he is changing the deal. the $4500 he's getting is not really $4500. the amount is his commission and as such commission checks are taxed at about 35% so his check is about $2900 less that $600 mentoring fee so it comes to $2325. now if he pays you the $750 which he definitely owes you he's down to $1575. just tell him to pay you on his next sale. which is more than fair on your part. that will test the depth of your friendship with him.

I agree with this D.

"Don't sweat the small stuff, hmm it's all small stuff."

[jimbutsu]

I can't believe almost no one on this board was ever 21 years old OR in a position where they made a commitment they couldn't keep because they had no clue what the hell they were doing OR both at the same time.

[Meule]

Look at it this way: your sister found a house and you made $400. What's more important? The remaining $350 or a possible lifetime friend?

[Hector]

It's not about the money...it's about how he went about it...to me that's not friendship.

[megocrazy]

It's not about the money...it's about how he went about it...to me that's not friendship.

I agree. If he had come to you and said "Hey man I know I promised you $750 but they took this and things are tight,etc." You probably would have said "OK Catch me later or maybe even "don't sweat it the $400 is fine", but it seems he was sneaky about it and just stiffed you with no actual feeling of remorse. If I'm right on that it seems you value the friendship more than he does. That's the impression I got when you first posted. Being broke and not having enough money in this economy is not a punishable offense, but being a ****** is subject to the full butt kicking that is appropriate with the crime.

[Dave Mc]

Business with friends or family always seems to end badly. My bothers started building houses together 20 years ago. That lasted about 3 years and they hadn't spoken a word to each other until last year. It took them 16 years to get past it.

If I were that guy I'd still pay what I promised, because well... I promised it. If there was a reason I couldn't, I'd talk it over with you and see if there was something we could work out so that we could both be comfortable with it.

If I were on the other side, I'd take the $400 and let it go. He's got to live with it knowing that he lost trust with a friend who helped him over a $350. Over time, that will cost him more and he'll realize it.

[toys2cool]

Thanx again for the advice guys,he dropped off the money to my sister.i'll just let things cool down a bit.It'll be a while before I talk to his *** again

[davidb]

I think you made the right decision. He dropped off the money, so you've got that already. Let some time pass before you talk to him again to allow both sides to get good and cooled down. After that, if things work out, you've still got your friendship.

Either way, I'd be extremely careful in the future dealing with this guy again on anything regarding money.

Hope that things work out for the best for you.

[MegoSteve]

I can't believe almost no one on this board was ever 21 years old OR in a position where they made a commitment they couldn't keep because they had no clue what the hell they were doing OR both at the same time.

THANK YOU. Jeez, I thought I was on Bizarro world for a second with all the "dump him!" suggestions.

Granted, I'm pretty tight with a buck and have flipped out on internet strangers for significantly less money, but if it were truly a real life friend of mine and he really meant that much to me, I'd let the $350 slide. I'm not saying you don't have the right to be angry with him if he promised you more, but you know 1) he's 21 years old and new at his job, 2) he's in over his head and 3) he isn't making any money, so he probably needs it pretty badly, and doesn't have a mom to borrow from.

Cut the kid a break. It's Christmas.

[toys2cool]

Cut the kid a break. It's Christmas.

I did,i didn't beat his ***

naw I get what you're saying,it's not even about the money though (my sister kept that) it's the way he went about it.but it's cool,I'm over it now