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  • toys2cool
    Ultimate Mego Warrior
    • Nov 27, 2006
    • 28605

    #31
    Originally posted by starsky
    people getting killed over stupid things is just ridiculous. reminds me of a friend of mine who got into a silly argument about pizza and ended up getting shot to death.
    That sucks bro,you never know what nut you're going to run into out there
    "Time to nut up or shut up" -Tallahassee

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    • jessica
      fortune favors the bold
      • Nov 5, 2007
      • 4590

      #32
      Poor unfortunate souls! May they rest in peace.

      Bloody savage human beasts.
      Those who look outside dream. Those who look within awake.
      Samples of my work are found here: Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness

      To do list:
      1:6 boots for Mathilda, 1:1 Romulan Commander outfit, Ursus helmet; Cornelius appliance
      1:9 scale ape's new suit for Cornelius;

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      • Hotfoot
        Dazed and Confused
        • Dec 30, 2007
        • 2564

        #33
        Sad. All that to save a few bucks! Really pathetic statement on Greedy Americans!
        Too many toys. Not enough space!

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        • huedell
          Museum Ball Eater
          • Dec 31, 2003
          • 11069

          #34
          Originally posted by Seeker
          Umm that is a real dumbass comment. The whole point of the peanuts christmas special was knocking the over commercialism of X mas.

          Schulz felt so strongly about it he put another dig about it in the Valentine special.

          Call my comment a "dumbass" comment?

          Watch your step.

          Maybe in some instances...but in THIS one you are utterly WRONG.

          Charles Shulz was no idiot...he knew that HE HIMSELF was
          part of the commercialism of Christmas---and that he was guilty of
          commercialism in general with his Peanuts brood. (well, you'd have to be
          an idiot NOT to realize this)

          He even went so far as to have Sally comment that it ain't commercial unless
          you're making money at it (in the Christmas Special sequel)---
          Shulz KNEW where HIS bread was being buttered even if YOU don't.

          He may have fought against commercialism blinding one to the true
          meaning of holidays---but he knew and RESPECTED this process
          of buoying holidays with commercial aspects
          or we wouldn't have our cherished Holiday Specials to begin with.

          Think before you post (and call board member's comments "dumbass").
          Last edited by huedell; Nov 29, '08, 9:24 PM.
          "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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          • huedell
            Museum Ball Eater
            • Dec 31, 2003
            • 11069

            #35
            Originally posted by Hotfoot
            Sad. All that to save a few bucks! Really pathetic statement on Greedy Americans!
            How about greedy PEOPLE.
            ????

            Geez
            "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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            • Captain
              Fighting the good fight!
              • Jun 17, 2001
              • 6031

              #36
              Originally posted by ramsey37
              Apparently the management at the Wal-Mart in question *did* close the store for several hours. Some of the shoppers got irate, but there was no riot:
              Sought: Wal-Mart shoppers who trampled NY worker - Yahoo! News
              Kimberly Cribbs, who witnessed the stampede, said shoppers were acting like "savages."

              "When they were saying they had to leave, that an employee got killed, people were yelling `I've been on line since yesterday morning,'" she said. "They kept shopping."
              I work for the local Wal-Mart. Yesterday was probably the largest crowd I've ever seen in the store. Thankfully, there were no injuries or major problems, but I can believe a mob of shoppers could turn ugly very easily under the right circumstances.
              George
              Yeah, I think shoppers can get ugly...especially this time of year. I was out for a while today, and a little old lady at Canadian Tire actually rammed a cart into somebody else because they were standing in front of something she wanted to look at. I wasnt watching long enough to know if there were events proceeding that, but it still seemed a bit much.

              Didnt realize they did close the store....the news showed shoppers jostling the cops and paramedics, while trying to get by with their shopping carts...sad stuff.
              "Crayons taste like purple!"

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              • Captain
                Fighting the good fight!
                • Jun 17, 2001
                • 6031

                #37
                Originally posted by huedell
                I have to disagree with your suggestion here.

                Commercialism is an awesome part of Christmas---
                even Charles Schulz would have admitted that.

                Like others have already said...blame the (horrid, uneeded) deaths
                on the stupidity and greed of the individuals who are responsible.

                The most important part of Christmas is (admittedly) "people"
                and people should remember that--yes---but NOT at
                the cost of the cool gifts (food, songs, entertainment)
                that come WITH Christmas.

                That's "throwing out the baby with bathwater" thinking.


                I'm not talking about completely doing away with the tradition of buying and giving gifts...Just think we need to really tone down things.
                I dont really know who or what to blame, but to many people this season has become more about buying certain things, rather than honoring what this season is truly about (trying very carefully to keep this from becoming a religous post).
                Look at the mad rushes over the years to buy certain toys, and more recently certain cell phones....I'm assuming Wal-Mart had some super cheap limited deal that caused this?
                Really, who can you blame? Retailers make their money at this time of the year, and incentives help bring in the numbers. People want in on a good deal too, I get that.
                "Crayons taste like purple!"

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                • huedell
                  Museum Ball Eater
                  • Dec 31, 2003
                  • 11069

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Captain
                  I'm not talking about completely doing away with the tradition of buying and giving gifts...Just think we need to really tone down things.
                  I dont really know who or what to blame, but to many people this season has become more about buying certain things, rather than honoring what this season is truly about (trying very carefully to keep this from becoming a religous post).
                  Look at the mad rushes over the years to buy certain toys, and more recently certain cell phones....I'm assuming Wal-Mart had some super cheap limited deal that caused this?
                  Really, who can you blame? Retailers make their money at this time of the year, and incentives help bring in the numbers. People want in on a good deal too, I get that.
                  Keep in mind that I was responding to the phrase you used:
                  "...kick the commercialism back out of Christmas."
                  which sounded like the extreme side of the spectrum.

                  I'm not surprised at your further explanation though...makes sense...
                  and I basically siad the same thing in my post...which is also what
                  Charles Schulz and the Holiday Special was trying to get across...
                  i.e. don't let the hubub of the more superficial aspects of Christmas
                  compromise the real meaning behind it....which doesn't even neccessarily
                  have to be interpreted as religious in nature...only what that religious event
                  ENCOMPASSED as far as humanity and the best of what it has to offer.
                  "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                  • Hector
                    el Hombre de Acero
                    • May 19, 2003
                    • 31852

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Captain
                    I'm not talking about completely doing away with the tradition of buying and giving gifts...Just think we need to really tone down things.
                    So what do you suggest, martial law, communism?

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                    • Seeker
                      Neptunians RULE!
                      • Feb 20, 2008
                      • 1954

                      #40
                      Originally posted by huedell
                      Call my comment a "dumbass" comment?

                      Watch your step.

                      Maybe in some instances...but in THIS one you are utterly WRONG.

                      Charles Shulz was no idiot...he knew that HE HIMSELF was
                      part of the commercialism of Christmas---and that he was guilty of
                      commercialism in general with his Peanuts brood. (well, you'd have to be
                      an idiot NOT to realize this)

                      He even went so far as to have Sally comment that it ain't commercial unless
                      you're making money at it (in the Christmas Special sequel)---
                      Shulz KNEW where HIS bread was being buttered even if YOU don't.

                      He may have fought against commercialism blinding one to the true
                      meaning of holidays---but he knew and RESPECTED this process
                      of buoying holidays with commercial aspects
                      or we wouldn't have our cherished Holiday Specials to begin with.

                      Think before you post (and call board member's comments "dumbass").

                      No I totally stand by that "comment". Its sad you had to pick this topic for your usual "Point/counterpoint"game.
                      Last edited by Seeker; Nov 30, '08, 6:59 AM.
                      Lo there do I see my Father.
                      Lo there do I see my Mother and my Sisters and my Brothers.
                      Lo there do I see the line of my people back to the begining.
                      Lo they do call me.
                      They bid me take my place among them.
                      In the halls of Valhalla where the brave may live forever.

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                      • huedell
                        Museum Ball Eater
                        • Dec 31, 2003
                        • 11069

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Hector
                        So what do you suggest, martial law, communism?

                        Jibbing Captain aside...Hector, I agree. (Still, it seems Cap actually does have
                        an understanding of somewhat of a balance here--- while someone like Seeker
                        seems to think they have the answer in black & white thought---well, Seeker,
                        you still have a bit to learn here)

                        Bottom line....
                        You can't rail so hard to one side without serious losses of
                        what makes the holiday fun. Do we want those losses for no good reason?
                        Of course not.

                        The responsibility lies not on "commercialism" but lies on the PEOPLE
                        ----the PEOPLE who can interact/act out poorly with that part of Christmas.

                        Don't penalize the PEOPLE who know better and still can enjoy that
                        part of Christmas without squandering the goodwill towards man.
                        Last edited by huedell; Nov 30, '08, 7:11 AM.
                        "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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