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  • samurainoir
    Eloquent Member
    • Dec 26, 2006
    • 18758

    Spider-Man's new costume



    Last edited by samurainoir; Sep 30, '16, 9:48 PM.
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  • cockyhoskins
    Career Member
    • Jan 13, 2009
    • 926

    #2
    Not sure about the center pose where he's doing the vogue, but is it supposed to be the black costume with red instead of white? If so, I'm open to it, but need to see it in print.

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    • samurainoir
      Eloquent Member
      • Dec 26, 2006
      • 18758

      #3




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      • LonnieFisher
        Eloquent Member
        • Jan 19, 2008
        • 10917

        #4
        Spider-man, Spider-man...
        Last edited by LonnieFisher; Sep 30, '16, 9:32 PM.

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        • TrekStar
          Trek or Treat
          • Jan 20, 2011
          • 8619

          #5
          Spiderman to me will always be the red and blue costume, never liked the shadow black version or this new version.

          Yet another attempt at screwing with tradition, although I didn't mind the Superman Cavill costume so much or
          the 90's black Batman look, but hated the recent Batman costume in BvsS

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          • hedrap
            Permanent Member
            • Feb 10, 2009
            • 4825

            #6
            It says 1983 on the side of the bible shot and the question posed is to Denny O'Neil, so I'm guessing this is the first design of the Secret Wars black costume and not anything new?

            Sam, is that right?

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            • Gadgeteer
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 16, 2014
              • 338

              #7
              I think I'd have liked the red better back in 83.
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              • CrimsonGhost
                Often invisible
                • Jul 18, 2002
                • 3604

                #8
                I thought for some reason that Marvel went with the costume change to avert a possible rights lawsuit or because Mattel requested it, but the only behind the scenes stories I found were that a fan came up with it and Jim Shooter liked the idea and paid him for it.

                I always liked the black and white suit. The Secret Wars figure was one of my favorites.
                Expectation is the death of discovery.

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                • samurainoir
                  Eloquent Member
                  • Dec 26, 2006
                  • 18758

                  #9


                  Last edited by samurainoir; Sep 30, '16, 9:43 PM.
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                  • Brown Bear
                    Still Old School
                    • Feb 14, 2008
                    • 7063

                    #10
                    Hate it. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Red and blue is best.
                    Check out my website: Megozine Covers - Home

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                    • Timothy2251
                      Jerks beef with Ten Bears
                      • Mar 15, 2008
                      • 1960

                      #11
                      Here's the whole story about the red/black pre-Secret Wars design shown above. It's the first pass at the original Symbiote suit.

                      "It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life."

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                      • hedrap
                        Permanent Member
                        • Feb 10, 2009
                        • 4825

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CrimsonGhost
                        I thought for some reason that Marvel went with the costume change to avert a possible rights lawsuit or because Mattel requested it, but the only behind the scenes stories I found were that a fan came up with it and Jim Shooter liked the idea and paid him for it.

                        I always liked the black and white suit. The Secret Wars figure was one of my favorites.
                        Secret Wars came from Mattel, but Shooter wanted to use it as a way to totally reset the entire Marvel U. He got enough talent resistance that he settled for the redesigns/reboots of the core characters and then developed the New Universe.

                        Black Spidey came from a fan and its incorporation into Secret Wars was a last minute addition. Before that They considered it being a new character and IIRC, something Reed and Peter developed off his web formula.

                        I can see how it would look like a rights issue, but Shooter's main concern was correcting how the 70's crew made the Marvel U a Rube Goldberg.

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                        • CrimsonGhost
                          Often invisible
                          • Jul 18, 2002
                          • 3604

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hedrap
                          Secret Wars came from Mattel, but Shooter wanted to use it as a way to totally reset the entire Marvel U. He got enough talent resistance that he settled for the redesigns/reboots of the core characters and then developed the New Universe.

                          Black Spidey came from a fan and its incorporation into Secret Wars was a last minute addition. Before that They considered it being a new character and IIRC, something Reed and Peter developed off his web formula.

                          I can see how it would look like a rights issue, but Shooter's main concern was correcting how the 70's crew made the Marvel U a Rube Goldberg.
                          Yeah, that's the story I ended up finding as well. I think I have a couple of stories confused. Was there something about changing Superboy because of possible litigation? I should just google it as well, I guess.
                          Expectation is the death of discovery.

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                          • hedrap
                            Permanent Member
                            • Feb 10, 2009
                            • 4825

                            #14
                            Superboy, yeah. There's been a lot of different legal disputes. Siegel and his estate were/are always filing over royalties and ownership. That's mainly why CW Smallville was what it was; to avoid Siegel litigation. The Siegel's actually owned Superboy back in '04.

                            The latest Superman reboot Man of Steel is hitting the big screen this summer. But today’s ruling by the U.S. District Court in the studio’s favor means Warner Bros now has full license to make a Superboy movie. Thursday’s order by Judge Otis Wright III affirmed a contested 2001 agreement between the estate of Superman […]


                            You might be recalling the warfare over Salkind's Superboy TV show. That was '88.

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                            • samurainoir
                              Eloquent Member
                              • Dec 26, 2006
                              • 18758

                              #15




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