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  • libby 1957dog
    Persistent Member
    • Sep 3, 2009
    • 1356

    #31
    as alway i enjoy your input and insight
    tell me what do you think of these "leaks " and rumors ,personally i think they mostly sound plausible considering the way movies seem to be constructed today ,a bit from here and a bit from there approach ,i still have high hope for this film ,and will at least enjoy it on some level lol ,how about the 3 hour run time fully finished for a extended cut ala the watchmen dvd ,is that how it works


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    Following the details of Doomsday being released by the production designer of Batman Vs. Superman, now potential spoilers may have leaked online.

    A user on Reddit posted the following:

    Ultimately Luthor uses Project Black Zero to create a "Black Zero" Superman (HINT HINT- Bizzaro N52 name and Zod's ship thingy was called Black Zero in MoS) that triggers something called the "Doomsday protocol" in Zod.

    There's a creepy rubber Henry Cavill face they laser onto Zod.

    Doomsday is something that lies within each Kryptonian (Except Superman, because he had a natural birth) to prevent cloning and revival. Sort of like a anti-piracy.

    Dick and jason are named dropped, and Jenna Malone is Carrie Kelley seen for a small scene being attacked by the guy you see branded in the trailer after batman stops it.

    Aquaman shows up twice. The Metal Men don't appear but they're alluded to.

    The credits apparently want everyone to sit around and watch because it's the Justice League (Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman) doing Justice League stuff, with a second appearance by Aquaman helping Wonder Woman with a flood, Batman working with Cyborg, and Superman and Flash sprinting through a city.

    You don't see joker but hes referenced.

    Wonder Woman talks about the New Gods.

    Doomsday is stopped when forced into the Phantom Zone, opened by Batman, by Superman after a distraction from Wonder Woman.

    Description of the flash suit seen in the credits scenes, It's kinda like a combination between a Swat Team uniform and a diver's suit. The helmet is a rubbery plastic with metal wing ears like Jay Garrick's. He doesn't wear lenses. There are different textures on the suit, but it all seems kinda rubbery or duct tape type material. It's thick. It's brighter red in the center and darker red on the legs and the seems. He has faded yellow boots and gloves. There is no lighting around around him or trailing.

    The batman vs superman fight isn't long it ends with Batman "winning" followed by him having a heart attack, assumingly from being in a 2 ton suit and being thrown through streets and being in range of a kryptonian bomb that goes off in the fight. Superman flys him to the cave.

    Doomsday does evolve to look more like the comic version, Wonder Woman chops off his arm and it grows back to look like the comic book one with the cool spike, and he starts to grow spikes out of his head when Superman is rushing his face against the pavement.

    scoot mcnairy is William Magnus, who has a direct influence on the creation of Cyborg, but leaves when he finds out Luthor's a total ******.

    The doomsday fight also takes place 6 months after bruces heart attack.

    Wayne enterprises owns the World Engine, that could become the watch tower. No fortress of solitude mentioned. No hall of justice mentioned.

    Lex gets cancer after working with so much alien ****. He never wears a wig, and eventually shaves it.

    Aquaman tells Wonder Woman he thinks the World Engine is from the New Gods, and Wonder Woman scouts out Clark and Bruce as Diana, then shows up talking about how "New Gods" yet unheard of have powers of mind and threats we can't imagine, etc. It's not super delved into but it's the main reason they let her into the club and decide to keep in contact.

    Batman nightmare is a recurring one like that episode of Twilight Zone. The first one ends after the Parademons start picking up soldiers and a defeated Batman, the second one ends after Superman rips off Batman's mask and his eyes glow red.

    Lex gets cancer after working with so much alien ****. He never wears a wig, and eventually shaves it.

    The Dick and jason name drop goes like this apparently "This type of brutish attitude is precisely why master Dick left you, and why master Jason-" Then Bruce cuts him off.

    The cut he saw was a little over three hours. He's assuming they're editing it down to 2.5 but they're VFXing the whole thing for the "Definitive Cut"

    WW has a accent but it fits.

    Lex/OS uses "Kryptonian Software." possibly Brainiac?

    Cyborg is Luthor's poster boy for victims of Black Zero

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    • hedrap
      Permanent Member
      • Feb 10, 2009
      • 4825

      #32
      Probably Accurate

      Originally posted by libby 1957dog

      Ultimately Luthor uses Project Black Zero to create a "Black Zero" Superman (HINT HINT- Bizzaro N52 name and Zod's ship thingy was called Black Zero in MoS) that triggers something called the "Doomsday protocol" in Zod.

      There's a creepy rubber Henry Cavill face they laser onto Zod.

      Doomsday is something that lies within each Kryptonian (Except Superman, because he had a natural birth) to prevent cloning and revival. Sort of like a anti-piracy.

      Dick and jason are named dropped, and Jenna Malone is Carrie Kelley seen for a small scene being attacked by the guy you see branded in the trailer after batman stops it.

      Aquaman shows up twice. The Metal Men don't appear but they're alluded to.

      You don't see joker but hes referenced.

      Wonder Woman talks about the New Gods.

      Doomsday is stopped when forced into the Phantom Zone, opened by Batman, by Superman after a distraction from Wonder Woman.

      The batman vs superman fight isn't long it ends with Batman "winning" followed by him having a heart attack, assumingly from being in a 2 ton suit and being thrown through streets and being in range of a kryptonian bomb that goes off in the fight. Superman flys him to the cave.

      Doomsday does evolve to look more like the comic version, Wonder Woman chops off his arm and it grows back to look like the comic book one with the cool spike, and he starts to grow spikes out of his head when Superman is rushing his face against the pavement.

      The doomsday fight also takes place 6 months after bruces heart attack.

      Lex gets cancer after working with so much alien ****. He never wears a wig, and eventually shaves it.

      Batman nightmare is a recurring one like that episode of Twilight Zone. The first one ends after the Parademons start picking up soldiers and a defeated Batman, the second one ends after Superman rips off Batman's mask and his eyes glow red.

      Lex gets cancer after working with so much alien ****. He never wears a wig, and eventually shaves it.

      The cut he saw was a little over three hours. He's assuming they're editing it down to 2.5 but they're VFXing the whole thing for the "Definitive Cut"

      WW has a accent but it fits.

      Lex/OS uses "Kryptonian Software." possibly Brainiac?

      Cyborg is Luthor's poster boy for victims of Black Zero
      A lot of that fits what has been said for some time, and the other bits could easily be inserted into the script during development.


      Highly Doubtful

      Originally posted by libby 1957dog

      Wayne enterprises owns the World Engine, that could become the watch tower. No fortress of solitude mentioned. No hall of justice mentioned.

      scoot mcnairy is William Magnus, who has a direct influence on the creation of Cyborg, but leaves when he finds out Luthor's a total ******.

      Description of the flash suit seen in the credits scenes, It's kinda like a combination between a Swat Team uniform and a diver's suit. The helmet is a rubbery plastic with metal wing ears like Jay Garrick's. He doesn't wear lenses. There are different textures on the suit, but it all seems kinda rubbery or duct tape type material. It's thick. It's brighter red in the center and darker red on the legs and the seems. He has faded yellow boots and gloves. There is no lighting around around him or trailing.

      Aquaman tells Wonder Woman he thinks the World Engine is from the New Gods, and Wonder Woman scouts out Clark and Bruce as Diana, then shows up talking about how "New Gods" yet unheard of have powers of mind and threats we can't imagine, etc. It's not super delved into but it's the main reason they let her into the club and decide to keep in contact.

      The credits apparently want everyone to sit around and watch because it's the Justice League (Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman) doing Justice League stuff, with a second appearance by Aquaman helping Wonder Woman with a flood, Batman working with Cyborg, and Superman and Flash sprinting through a city.
      Things could have changed, but...

      Luthor had the World Engine and it was most likely to be the gateway to Apokolips. Some VFX peeps were speculating it could easily become LOD HQ. I think we even threw that around here at one point.

      The Metal Men stuff is actually probable to some degree as it is in development, but a big scene for Will Magnus is hugely story divergent.

      The Aquaman/Flash stuff...The costume designer had just started on the Flash, way after principle photography, and a number of the key people have said Aquaman is more of a cameo.
      I highly doubt Aquaman has any dialogue scenes. That makes him a bit player and that would have leaked.

      The Flash/Superman racing scene doesn't sound right as Flash is supposed to be foreshadowed through either Lex or Bruce surveying anomalous human activity.

      Now, a lot of those scenes could have been generated late in production. It's not much of a secret WB had a mini-stroke over Marvel stacking Civil War. It would time out that Snyder could go back and do a ton of green screen work quickly - he is the master - and nobody notice as it could have been housed anywhere. I could see him arguing that if they didn't push JLA moreso into BvS, Civil War was going to drown them out in just two weeks.

      It's also very possible IMO they're shooting for an extended cut theatrical, released halfway to JLA. That would make the most sense.

      I'll be shocked if BvS goes 150min. WB and the theaters will want as many showings, on as many screens, as possible in their two week window before CW. WB and Marvel are going to be in a knife fight for 3D Imax/Premium Format screens and WB will need huge numbers to dissuade theaters from switching all the premiums over. It's a big dollar difference.

      I'd bet BvS a little over 2hrs, with a 2h30m version released in December. We got 20 months between BvS and JLA which is idiotic on WB's part. They should have shot them together and released in March and December of 2016.

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      • libby 1957dog
        Persistent Member
        • Sep 3, 2009
        • 1356

        #33
        thanks for the info and your thoughts ,
        yeah i think your dead on the money there ,and its hell of a distance between bvs and jla ,so a extended cut between them and the solo films would make sense ,i prefer your proposed release schedule of march december but what can you do lol
        i wish you ran warners or a least the dc film part
        anyway inlight of the negative comments about the hot toys batman body type not mine ,swiped from sideshow ,but too funny not to repost lol

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        • libby 1957dog
          Persistent Member
          • Sep 3, 2009
          • 1356

          #34
          okay to even out the mean in my last post mc batman ,heres a modded look at the hot toys bats via some clever guy on ssc

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          • TrekStar
            Trek or Treat
            • Jan 20, 2011
            • 8659

            #35
            Not to sound stupid, but is that Ronald McDonald Joker an actually figure that can be purchased or
            someone's clever custom?

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            • Hector
              el Hombre de Acero
              • May 19, 2003
              • 31852

              #36
              Originally posted by tjacwave50
              Not to sound stupid, but is that Ronald McDonald Joker an actually figure that can be purchased or
              someone's clever custom?
              I don't know, but I want one!!!


              sigpic

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              • libby 1957dog
                Persistent Member
                • Sep 3, 2009
                • 1356

                #37





                outfit no head or body $60 ,first one i found shop around maybe a cheaper option ,joker heads are cheap and plentiful last time i looked

                these guy work is great quality ,they do a racing driver tony stark from ironman 2 for around $40 top notch looks and quality ,you can put a great looking figure together yourself for around $80 to $100
                Last edited by libby 1957dog; Dec 16, '15, 5:02 PM.

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                • libby 1957dog
                  Persistent Member
                  • Sep 3, 2009
                  • 1356

                  #38


                  tony
                  reclusive bruce

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                  • libby 1957dog
                    Persistent Member
                    • Sep 3, 2009
                    • 1356

                    #39
                    looks like hot toys bats has been reworked



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                    • libby 1957dog
                      Persistent Member
                      • Sep 3, 2009
                      • 1356

                      #40
                      looks like batmite may be in this movie to if this figure is anything to go on lol

                      Last edited by libby 1957dog; Dec 17, '15, 6:38 AM.

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                      • libby 1957dog
                        Persistent Member
                        • Sep 3, 2009
                        • 1356

                        #41
                        oh okay this is too cool and cute not to swipe and repost

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                        • libby 1957dog
                          Persistent Member
                          • Sep 3, 2009
                          • 1356

                          #42
                          not sure what this is ,i think it some sort of viral thing warner have going on ,but i thought it was well written and puts a different spin on how lex seems in the trailers so far



                          Sponsor Content by Warner Bros. Entertainment, Inc. | WIRED

                          The impending launch of his company’s revolutionary new operating system Lex/OS (I got my hands on the beta and, yeah, it’s awesome) seemed like the perfect moment to sit down with the dynamic and, at times, controversial, young genius behind the LexCorp magic to see what else he’s got up his sleeve.

                          THE ELEVATOR DOORS open and I step into the opulent Royal Penthouse Suite at the Park Metropolis Downtown. Eleven lavish bedrooms, each with its own floor-to-ceiling Italian marble bath, a 100-seat cinema/lecture hall, a four-lane bowling alley (two standard American, one duckpin, one Belgian feather), twin helipads and its own private Caffè Bene. In other words: exactly what you’d expect for $95,000 a night.

                          Of course, no one’s actually staying here. This is just the space he’s rented for my fifteen-minutes-but-more-like-ten, no-holds-barred-except-several interview.

                          If I didn’t know better, I’d think billionaire tech wunderkind Lex Luthor was trying to intimidate me.

                          RON TROUPE: Nice digs.

                          LEX LUTHOR: We’re not doing that.

                          RON TROUPE: Doing what?

                          LEX LUTHOR: We’re not opening with a wide-eyed layman’s description of the hotel room that makes me look unrelatable just to set up a dramatic twist wherein, lo and behold, you discover I’m surprisingly down-to-earth because I know the score of the last Metros game.

                          RON TROUPE: Do you?

                          LEX LUTHOR: Metros 102, Guardsmen 86.

                          RON TROUPE: Weird. (it’s the correct “relatable” small talk, but coming out of him, it sounds less like a basketball score than a set of algebraic integers.)

                          LEX LUTHOR: Which is why we’re not doing it.

                          RON TROUPE: Would you say you’re a man who’s always gotten what he wants?

                          LEX LUTHOR: Nice pivot. Here’s mine: What I want is to leave the planet in better shape for the next generation. To make the world and its children safer. I want it. And I bet you do too, Ron.

                          RON TROUPE: You sound like someone running for political office.

                          LEX LUTHOR: If that matches their rhetoric, then maybe I should pay more attention to the candidates; I might want to back a few of them. The world is changing faster than we anticipated; we’ve all seen it. More than ever, we need leaders who not only comprehend the new threats facing us, but who will seriously and thoughtfully address them.

                          RON TROUPE: You’ve been very vocal about that. About the new superhuman threat.

                          LEX LUTHOR: Well I don’t know where you got that term. I think to be a super human, one should begin by being, you know, from this planet.

                          RON TROUPE: Bad choice of words?

                          LEX LUTHOR: We should all be careful when we elevate anyone, human or alien, to “super” status.

                          RON TROUPE: Because we’re all equal.

                          LEX LUTHOR: Well that’s just absurd. No – I’m saying we need to be selective and elevate the right people. The right human people.

                          RON TROUPE: And what are your thoughts on the Batman? He’s human. Presumably.

                          LEX LUTHOR: Well, he is. In fact, I’d say he’s all too human. Any objective analyst will tell you that his brand of justice, vigilantism, is painfully outmoded, designed to be effective in an age when the law carried billy clubs because crime carried knives. The most dangerous guy on the street worked in the shadows because he was cowardly and superstitious. That’s all you needed to play upon in order to disrupt their operations. You want to clean up the streets? Dress up like the boogeyman, switch on a fog machine and lower your voice.

                          RON TROUPE: When you put it that way, it sounds ridiculous.

                          LEX LUTHOR: It didn’t when the Batman first appeared, but that was a long time ago. This is a new world, Ron, and it’s time to get serious.


                          (continued from print edition)

                          LEX LUTHOR: Look at it from the other side: today, there are more criminals than ever. If you’re a criminal, that means more competition. So if you’re going to survive in that economy, you have to be better; you have to edge out your rivals. Shouldn’t the same be true for those on the side of the law? If justice is going to survive in the new global paradigm, we have to get better, invest in new disruptive technologies, think outside Pandora’s Box. Who has the resources to do it? The government? No; the only thing holding that old purse together is a thick layer of impenetrable red tape. Vigilantes like the Batman? Not unless they have access to vast amounts of untold riches.

                          RON TROUPE: Like you.

                          LEX LUTHOR: I’m not a vigilante.

                          RON TROUPE: Maybe not in the traditional sense. But you are investing a good deal of your personal wealth in the area of defense and specifically the kinds of disruptive technologies you just referenced, even as you’ve been turned down time and again for the kinds of government contracts that would make those investments profitable. One man working outside the government to clean up the streets? Sure sounds like—

                          LEX LUTHOR: I’m going to stop you because your facts are as wrong as your characterization. If you want to understand me, understand this: I’m a businessman with long-term global investments; I would be in breach of my fiduciary responsibility if I didn’t work to protect the planet. I’m not just counting on humanity, I’m betting on it.

                          LexCorp Infographic
                          WARNER BROS. ENT.
                          RON TROUPE: Let’s go back. You mentioned the government. What role do they play in your “new global paradigm”?

                          LEX LUTHOR: Last week, I would have given you a totally different answer.

                          RON TROUPE: What changed?

                          LEX LUTHOR: Let’s just say I ran into a wall. I’m not going to go into a lot of detail here. Suffice it to say the dangers we’ve been talking about are very real. And they’re not just limited to a couple of alien brawlers able to level tall buildings in a single bout. I’m ready to sit down with whatever task force the government has assembled — in the interest of sharing intelligence and building solutions together. If she… they… Argus… the government, whatever you want to call it, has a real interest in fighting for the future, they ought to work with those of us who are already on the front lines.

                          RON TROUPE: I’m sorry, can we— what is Argus?

                          LEX LUTHOR: What. Is. Argus. Spelled A.R.G.U.S.

                          (At first I think he’s asking me; then Luthor’s assistant hands him a phone and he reads off search results.)

                          LEX LUTHOR: The name of five different warships – all sunken or broken up; a pheasant-like peafowl hunted for sport; an automobile that went extinct; Greek mythology’s favorite faithful mutt… LEX/OS lists seventeen hundred entries. I’d go on, but they’re all pretty much the same.

                          RON TROUPE: That was fast.

                          LEX LUTHOR: Point zero seven seconds. But we can save all that for the launch announcement; I don’t want to obscure my point: The new threats facing us are real. And they’re growing. It’s past time for a radical rethink of our rusted-out lines of defense. If I have a philosophy here, it’s this: You don’t solve a multiplication problem with division. Unite, or die. The public and the private sectors have to work together to create the next generation of defense technologies necessary to literally save the world. This is the future, and lone gunmen and caped crusaders aren’t worth the ink it takes to print their name in a footnote.

                          RON TROUPE: Do you think that’s what your father would say?

                          LEX LUTHOR: My father would say that offense wins games. But he’s dead and I say you’re only as good as your defense.

                          RON TROUPE: This all sounds suspiciously like a manifesto.

                          LEX LUTHOR: Ron. Guys with manifestos don’t bring bowling shoes to interviews. Do you roll? Come on. Right now. I will destroy you

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                          • Hector
                            el Hombre de Acero
                            • May 19, 2003
                            • 31852

                            #43
                            Originally posted by libby 1957dog
                            oh okay this is too cool and cute not to swipe and repost
                            What an awesome illustration...my new screensaver...

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                            • Hedji
                              Citizen of Gotham
                              • Nov 17, 2012
                              • 7246

                              #44
                              That is the movie I would make.

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                              • mego73
                                Printed paperboard Tiger
                                • Aug 1, 2003
                                • 6690

                                #45
                                How much is that hot toy behind the Batman figure.?

                                Originally posted by libby 1957dog
                                looks like hot toys bats has been reworked




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