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I like the Story FF films. They are fun, and I feel the spirit of the comic is there. I think the casting could have been better with Reed and Sue, but they all did well with what they were given. Doom was absolutely horrible, and a total misfire, casting a flavor-of-the-week actor who has since faded into obscurity (as far as I know). I liked the second movie better than the first, because I thought they did pretty well by the Silver Surfer. Yes, Galactus was a cloud and they kind of chickened out on it, but it worked within the film.
They aren't masterpieces, but they are entertaining, and again, evoke the spirit of the early comics pretty well. Heck, the Corman film does, with no budget, but with a very committed cast and crew, doing the best they could with absolutely no support.
Chris
I disagree on your take of Sue...Jessica Alba was perfect...hotter than the Human Torch in fact...
The saddest thing is, this wreck's failure will be probably be blamed on the Fantastic Four itself, once "the World's Greatest Comic Magazine" and Marvel's flagship first family.
It's not just Doom as the "fifth Beatle". The intertwined fates has become a freakin Marvel pox on movies.
Parker/Osborne
Stark/Iron Monger/Whiplash/Mandarin/Ultron
Cap/Winter Soldier
Ant-Man/Yellowjacket
Thor/Loki and Xavier/Magneto are rationale. Hulk would too, but it has to be tangential and not direct cause.
With Doom, it's all cost-bending the production. You take "college friends" and then modernize into "graduate colleagues" and voila; Doom's the member who went bad, which streamlines the script as it reduces the number of locations and erases a subplot. The problem is it doesn't work for the character personality, background or powers. So the producers keep having to morph Doom until you end up with "Doom In Name Only".
Logic - god forbid - would say Doom doesn't fit as the failed member, but Red Ghost, Mole Man or Mad Thinker could be reworked easily into that role. Even Puppet Master could be modernized for it.
Personally, a new version of the Frightful Four to me was always the best answer. It's a shame the U-Foe's from Hulk couldn't be brought in as they're the perfect FF mirror foils and would be a great foreshadowing for Doom as a Putin-esque despot, who briefly knew Richards in school, instantly despised him, and has been mirroring his work in a private cold war out of hopes of besting Reed. But once Richards obtains cosmic powers, Doom doesn't believe it was accidental and sends his team up, becoming the U-Foes who attack The Baxter Building from nowhere.
That's really the element most moderinzations of the FF are missing; the unknown enemy. They were heat seekers for villains. That would also distinguish them from the Avengers, whose running theme is about being proactive.
How's this for a review... "Finally, a superhero movie without action, character development or a plot." Tracking at 15% fresh right now. What a nightmare
Sensitive viewers shouldn't watch this, but it's a Nerdist video related to the Thing not wearing clothes and obviously missing a critical piece of anatomy.
Doctor Doom is the one thing that filmakers should be able to get right in a Fantastic Four movie. It seems to be the one thing they keep getting horribly wrong. This latest attempt...words fail me.
I guess its the one thing they kept from the earlier Fox FF Films. Its lazy at best, throwing Doom into the same origin process as the FF. It does make sense that he would be some kind of organic metal with maybe electrical powers or such to fit into the elemental theme, but boy does Doom suck.
Originally posted by PNGwynne
Jeez, that is horrible. Has he been metallicized into his space-suit? I just cannot tolerate jerking around a major character in that manner. Lazy design, lazy storytelling.
Jeez, that is horrible. Has he been metallicized into his space-suit? I just cannot tolerate jerking around a major character in that manner. Lazy design, lazy storytelling.
Are you freaking kidding?!! He looks like a damn crash test dummy!
Wow, he really does.
How hard is it to get Doom right? He's frickin' Darth Vader before Darth Vader! How can Hollywood keep screwing him up?
I really can't believe I'm defending the Corman film this much, but Joseph Culp was a much better Doom than this guy or Julian McMahon, just based on this 30 second clip I saw!
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