Iceman is in the news...

[LonnieFisher]

https://gma.yahoo.com/x-men-icon-iceman-comes-gay-183457516--abc-news-celebrities.html

[Blue Meanie]

Saw this over at Back Issue and IMHO it's just Marvel trying to sell more books. I really do think that both companies have shot themselves in the foot. I know that what both DC and Marvel are doing right now in terms of these EVENTS, DC with the end of the old universe or all the universes converging and Marvel revisiting Secret Wars yet again, is a HUGE jumping off point for any older collectors/readers. Both companies have nothing else if they go forward with these ideas, and it looks like both are going to go through with these ridiculous EVENT books. It's them trying to hip, new and edgy. It's a sad state for the comic industry right now. It will probably sell a million plus copies to all the "Investors" thinking if they buy it and put it away for 5 or 10 years it will be worth some $$$. How'd the Death Of Superman work out for all of those investors??!!?? I know I am done with new books as a reader/collector.

[monitor_ep]

I haven't read many X-Men in awhile and this shocked me. My question is: Maby when The Beast went back in time to get the team he actually went to another multiverse and pulled this group into the future.

[enyawd72]

Marvel can come up with whatever drivel they want. My Iceman has the hots for Firestar and always will. Nuff said.

[The Bat]

It's just more PC Bull$#%T! It's finally apparent to me Marvel(or DC)don't give a crap about the older fans. One Writer even bragged "were going to tare down childhoods." Why? They want to get new fans and get rid of the old? Well, It's working! I might read just the Secret Wars title(1 through 8?)to see what the plan is. If I'm not happy with the end result...I WILL cancel all my Marvel books! Even Spiderman which I've bee buying since I was 5(I'm 50 now).

I guess Marvel really doesn't care about the old fans...they just want to younger readers. It's sad for us old-timers.

[MIB41]

It's just more PC Bull$#%T! It's finally apparent to me Marvel(or DC)don't give a crap about the older fans. One Writer even bragged "were going to tare down childhoods." Why? They want to get new fans and get rid of the old? Well, It's working! I might read just the Secret Wars title(1 through 8?)to see what the plan is. If I'm not happy with the end result...I WILL cancel all my Marvel books! Even Spiderman which I've bee buying since I was 5(I'm 50 now).

I guess Marvel really doesn't care about the old fans...they just want to younger readers. It's sad for us old-timers.

SPOT ON. May I add nor do they care about the lasting legacy therein either. None of this is designed to bring social awareness or sensitivity. Quite the contrary. They exploit it as a stereotype to sell comics. Surely the greatest insult to those who simply want to be accepted.

[CrimsonGhost]

Can't believe I didn't notice that while watching Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends. I'll have to watch again....

[enyawd72]

Can't believe I didn't notice that while watching Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends. I'll have to watch again....

That's what I said....Iceman always had the hots for Firestar if memory serves me correctly.

[enyawd72]

It's just more PC Bull$#%T! It's finally apparent to me Marvel(or DC)don't give a crap about the older fans. One Writer even bragged "were going to tare down childhoods." Why? They want to get new fans and get rid of the old? Well, It's working! I might read just the Secret Wars title(1 through 8?)to see what the plan is. If I'm not happy with the end result...I WILL cancel all my Marvel books! Even Spiderman which I've bee buying since I was 5(I'm 50 now).

I guess Marvel really doesn't care about the old fans...they just want to younger readers. It's sad for us old-timers.

Yeah, it's not really a smart business move either, since we're the ones with all the money. One of the biggest success stories of Marvel licensing was Bowen Designs. He produced over 700 statues and busts ranging in price from $50 to 300 during his run. 90% of which were silver and bronze age depictions of characters. That's where the high end money is at. My LCS guy said one of his best sellers were the TPB Marvel Masterworks, which have now been cancelled. I bought 72 volumes at $25-30 a pop. Now I'm buying NOTHING.

[huedell]

It's just more PC Bull$#%T! It's finally apparent to me Marvel(or DC)don't give a crap about the older fans. One Writer even bragged "were going to tare down childhoods." Why? They want to get new fans and get rid of the old? Well, It's working! I might read just the Secret Wars title(1 through 8?)to see what the plan is. If I'm not happy with the end result...I WILL cancel all my Marvel books! Even Spiderman which I've bee buying since I was 5(I'm 50 now).

I guess Marvel really doesn't care about the old fans...they just want to younger readers. It's sad for us old-timers.

I could be wrong... but I just think that comicbook profit is a thing of the past for DC/Marvel. Their profit and priority lie elsewhere, so why not go crazy and, essentially, not give a dang.

They're not trying to appeal to investors... that notion is hilarious-----it's not the 1990's anymore... print is really dead as disco.

They can get a good chunk of publicity though, with these silly "event" issues. Printing costs are low as ever---but publicity is priceless. Great trade for DC/Marvel in print comicbooks:

Exposure while they crash and burn.

[kingdom warrior]

I kinda liked it when, my heroes fought bad guys and saved the day....not who was going to suck their anything later that night.....I don't want to know what a cartoon characters sexuality is.....and I'm not anti anyone, before anyone gets anything twisted.

[sprytel]

Come on... who didn't think that Iceman was gay?!?

[enyawd72]

I kinda liked it when, my heroes fought bad guys and saved the day....not who was going to suck their anything later that night.

OMG I want that on a T-shirt!

[CrimsonGhost]

That's what I said....Iceman always had the hots for Firestar if memory serves me correctly.

That's how he hid it all this time! It's the perfect cover.

[Blue Meanie]

Don't know if anyone has liked Back Issue on Facebook but here is a little article that was posted by one of it's likers (Word?) :

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/04/...tailer-speaks/

Just is one more nail in the big 2's hold on the comic book industry. They can't even keep their older collectors interested because they've done it once again to the older readers and collectors. Jumping off point for a lot of older readers...this thing Marvel is doing will be one more nail in the coffin. Only thing Marvel really has left is to rely on the older story lines to convert into billion dollar movies. How IRONIC is that.