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Catwoman is incredibly watchable, I've seen it almost a dozen times. I'm not saying it's good, quite the opposite, it's so terrible it's kind of entertaining.
In the Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham game, you have to retrieve a print of Kevin Smith's film (involving a polar bear and a giant spider...I'm not kidding) from Catwoman, who has stolen it. She comments on how it's a bad movie...and she "knows something about bad movies!" I couldn't help but chuckle at these in-jokes going over kids' heads.
Meh. Raimi will always have a problem with SM3, if only that that was the one where he bowed to studio pressures the most... add to that that many hardcore Spidey fans were insulted by the flick---well, I'm not surprised he's making these public statements.... works for him in multiple ways.
Me? I'm fine with it. "The Sandman/Uncle Ben" thing bugged me... but, then again it fit neatly with SM3's themes of "judgement" etc... so, yeah---I only think there's one terrible SM movie of the last 5---and that's ASM 1 (because it was flat out BORING)--- ASM2 was exciting and, like, SM3 was an intriguing mix of ideas, yet ASM2 had the tightly woven script as far as themes/story that SM3 didn't match. Unfortunately for ASM2, hardcore Spidey fans were too put off by inconsistencies with their vision of Spider-Man, and the groundwork established for the network of "Osborn" mercenaries integrated into the Parker Sr./Harry/Electro action was "TOO Spidey" for a large portion of NON-hardcore Spidey fans to connect with like I did. Looking forward to ASM3 (that is, if they can squeeze ASM3 out before pulling the plug for yet another reboot).
"No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix
I wonder if that is why it doesn't bother me very much? I remember Pete getting the suit in Secret Wars but I didn't read the Venom saga...
I'd guess so. I'd also guess that's why one could watch the less defined/"invested in" Catwoman and enjoy a bad superhero movie (which IMHO is a huge chunk of superhero movies anyways). And on the "SM3/Venom" subject, I think that the biggest misunderstood aspect of the character's overall place in SM3 by hardcore Venom/Spidey fans, and otherwise, is that Venom-created "bad boy" Peter is supposed to be "awkward", and was not written to be "cool" as so many seem to mistakenly believe.
"No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix
The perfect Spidey movie has yet to be made. If Raimi's movies had Andrew Garfield in them they would've come close IMO.
Raimi wanted Wes Bentley, who was just coming off of American Beauty. But he was put on double-secret probation by all studios for "being difficult". In his case, it was heroin. That was kept quiet at the time, but he's open about it now. Pascal, the Sony boss, wanted Heath Ledger, who was Emmerich's choice when he was going to direct. Then Tri-Star Godzilla happened and that ended Roland's movie.
At that time,Bentley was the perfect Parker. In the 80's, it was Spader or Cusack. The 90's had no really good picks. Cameron wanted DiCraprio, which would have been gawd-awful, as Cameron's kid actor picks sucked because he chose kids who emulate his attitude. Which is not Peter Parker, in the least.
Fincher still had the coolest idea, which was to show the origin in the credits, ala Se7en, then just get into it with a 20something Parker and a Spidey who had been around for a few years. He believed since Spidey had been around in some form for decades, the majority of people knew the basic idea, so use that pre-exisiting knowledge as a springboard and cut to the action.
Catwoman is incredibly watchable, I've seen it almost a dozen times. I'm not saying it's good, quite the opposite, it's so terrible it's kind of entertaining.
Catwoman has sexy Halle Berry...Spidey 3 has a can't dance annoying Tobey Maguire, nuff said, lol.
Catwoman is the modern day Supergirl, both bad flicks, but with hot leading actresses.
I'm just glad Maguire is gone.
I always felt he was sleepwalking through the whole movie, with that goofy look on his face.
I enjoy the new series much more, and actually liked the second one as well. Let's not talk about that ridiculous Rhino suit and stop the movie just before that scene starts.
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"When things are at their darkest, it's a brave man that can kick back and party."
I liked Maguire fine in the first two flicks. His over-the-top crying and "bad" Peter were a bit much in 3. No one was sleep-walking through the movies more than Dunst. She was fine in the first movie, but in 2 she was barely there, and by 3 she seemed to actively loathe making the picture. It showed.
^The thing I hated about Dunst was she got the character completely wrong. MJ was always a caring person who just happened to mask her personal pain with a party girl facade. Dunst played her as a career minded self centered bee-yotch.
Longtime exec Mike Medavoy ran Tri-Star in the 90's after Sony bought Orion and merged it into Tri-Star. He was buds with Amy Pascal, who was producer/exec head of Sony at the same time. McGuire was dating/married Medavoy's daughter and her best friend is Dunst. So that's how you got Peter and MJ as consensus picks.
The majority of casting is done in this fashion or package deals from agencies. You want to hire director X, but his agent wants Actor Y to get the co-lead in another film at the same studio. That's why the JLA casting looks so horrendous; no one but Cavill was cast strictly on if they were right for the role.
^The thing I hated about Dunst was she got the character completely wrong. MJ was always a caring person who just happened to mask her personal pain with a party girl facade. Dunst played her as a career minded self centered bee-yotch.
If I had been casting MJ, Dunst wouldn't have had a chance. She's so unlike the character. I never saw even a hint of MJ in her performance or appearance.
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"When things are at their darkest, it's a brave man that can kick back and party."
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