Agents of Shield - Mid season premiere tonight

[boss]

What exactly is this Sif implosion you speak of? I thought it was one of the better episodes and tied in to the movies pretty well.

I'm not sure what this means either. That episode had an increase in viewership over the two weeks prior. On the whole, the show is consistently placing 2nd for the night in the key 18-49 demographic (key meaning... this is where advertisers want to spend their money). There also seems to be an increase in the number of people who watch the show within a week of initial airing (DVR, etc).

One could also argue that the dip in this week's numbers for the "Assembling a Universe" special would indicate that viewers are more interested in seeing new episodes of SHIELD.

It's possible that the show won't be picked up for a second season. It's also possible that this show is somewhat of a "loss leader" for ABC, too (it is an in-house property after all). It may end up being the cheapest marketing campaign for Avengers 2 after all.

[jwyblejr]

My biggest beef with the series right now is they take too long between the episodes. We have to wait until April for the new one.

[sprytel]

My wife suggested that Paxton is really the Clairvoyant.

[Random Axe]

As far as the plot goes, I have a new theory about the Clairvoyant. Since the show is tied directly to and affected by Winter Soldier, I think it's Alexander Pierce, Redford's character. It's most likely a current or former shield agent to have such inner working knowledge of procedure and personal information. There's like a 3 percent chance I'm right about this, but that's kinda where I'm leaning.

[sprytel]

I thought the last couple of weeks the show really found its ideal formula. My elevator pitch would be: "Love Boat for superheroes". You know... Captain Stubing (aka Phil Coulson) and the crew will be on every week, but you tune in for guests like Charro.

[madmarva]

Feige did not say Marvel was considering going to a 3 or 4 Marvel film a year model. A reporter asked him a question or really made a comment that Marvel had enough characters for that many films. Feige agreed there was enough material or characters, but he said there would have to be the demand. He didn't say the demand was there. Basically, the way I read his comments, is that Marvel is pretty happy with the two films a year model and isn't ready to push it further.

After the first three episodes, I've only spot watched SHEILD. The show doesn't have enough Marvel in it for me, but that isn't the main problem. As it stands, there are probably a half dozen spy or special agent type shows on TV that are more worth my time. Vague references to the Marvel films here and there isn't enough to make the show worth my attention and Coulson, while still likable, has proven to be better as a recognizable face popping up here an there in the movies than a lead.

Maybe, I'll watch some episodes on demand or netflix when it's available there.

Maybe ABC should move it out of competition with NCIS, which is a better show in its ninth or 10th season than SHEILD.

If Constantine and Flash make it to series along with Gotham and Green Arrow, it's going to interesting which ones can swim with the cops, lawyers, doctors, secret agents, sit com's and serial killers populating the vast wasteland.

[hedrap]

^ T.A.H.I.T.I and Yes Men are the two lowest rated episodes of the series at a time when competition is weakest. It's supposed to be the opposite with the heavier marketing push and Winter Soldier build. Instead, they're cratering the week theatrical rollout starts.

If they do not see a bump post-US release of Winter Soldier, I don't know what happens. The "Assembling A Universe" special tank hard and that was built around the upcoming movies. How did it drop an entire point less than Agents? At minimum it should have done the same.

You also have the release of Cap's first ten minutes, which runs counter to all the "tracking towards an 80+ million opening" talk. I mean, I think it's still going to do Thor 2 business, I just don't remember this kind of giveaway for Dark World.

I just find it all odd as this is the beginning of a very long campaign that won't end until August.

[thunderbolt]

What exactly is this Sif implosion you speak of? I thought it was one of the better episodes and tied in to the movies pretty well.

[boss]

the sky is falling.

[hedrap]

Marvel knows first impressions make or break. That is so amazingly cheap, perpetual "upgrades" are not going to help. Refer to him as "Deathlok" now, and it's over.

Did they announce a second season pickup, yet? I can still see it happening, but the Sif implosion has probably scared the crap out them.

I found Fiege's comment about moving to a movie per quarter, meaning 3-4 films per year, really interesting. He says it's about audience demand, yet, Agents ratings sort of kills the idea that people are salivating for more product and this is while they prep shooting for Netflix. Now it can't be both as the point of all the series is to feed the demand while adding on tow more movies is a huge financial risk. And this is on top of Disney's output of Star Wars, Pixar, etc...so something is up.

[johnnystorm]

It would be interesting if each episode adds a little more to him, until at the end he's fully looking like the comic book character, as if Centipede is working on him as parts become available.

[thunderbolt]

hope Deathlok's a work in progress, cause right now he looks like a reject from Smallville.

[Operation:Mego]

[Operation:Mego]

[Operation:Mego]

I think the show has been pretty solid from the beginning. I can only imagine how difficult it is to develop you own TV universe, and then make it fit into a much larger universe (multiple movies and comics) while trying to keep diehard nerds like us happy and the other 98% of the population tuned in.

Yeah, I've liked it from the beginning as well. The ongoing Centipede arc has been very cool and has taken some unexpected turns, while the more stand-alone episodes really helped with character development (the many references to the films every week are an added bonus too).