Agents of Shield - Mid season premiere tonight

[boss]

I think he said two more after next week's episode. A little confusing.

[jwyblejr]

I was going by what the voice-over guy at the end said.

[boss]

Actually, 3.

Two episodes left.

[jwyblejr]

Two episodes left.

[boss]

I really enjoyed last night's episode.

[Sideshow Spock]

I couldn't get past how cheap everything felt last night. The sets, the copter attack, even the score.

Hey, I woulda been happy with some cgi to show some "cold breath" up there in there in the Canadian tundra. But at least everyone looked cute in their lil' knit hats!

[jwyblejr]

I heard some people tonight at Walmart griping about how Ward turned out. I was soooooo tempted to yell out "Hail Hydra!"

[jds1911a1]

Dude, you stole my line! I've held off on that comparison to Winter Soldier because it's such a massive insult, but is the exact same story.

at least joe 2 was better than Joe 1 (talk about a low bar to reach Killing Channing alone was worth it) but I saw it with a free ticket I got from frozen pizza boxes and still came out going eh

I haven't seen cap 2 yet but I am enough of a fan of AOS that I kept watching despite it spoiling cap 2

[hedrap]

of course the reality is this same story line was played out in the second Gi joe film in almost the same way

Dude, you stole my line! I've held off on that comparison to Winter Soldier because it's such a massive insult, but is the exact same story.

[johnnystorm]

They specifically mentioned Captain America being MIA after the "events in Washington". And of what use would the Hulk or Iron Man be in this scenario? Maybe Black Widow or Hawkeye, but I imagine they would be pretty busy right now. And don't forget that this is only a Shield hub, while Coulson & crew are important to us as viewers, they are just a small part of the organization. And Garrett & Ward are only a small arm of Hydra. Remember, top brass are involved.

[jds1911a1]

OK..I'm I the only one here not getting WHY the BIG SUPERHEROES are not here to help...hmmm...THOR ..the dude can travel to a different WORLD ,but we have a motley crew of young wanna be's trying to defeat HYDRA...
ONCE again ...the show is grasping....ahhhhh...its buggin moi !....still think the show is failing !...

Thor wouldn't be bothered to help protect us from ourselved the aliens only get involved when it suits their interests, I'm sure the asgardians care for earth the same way we care about dogs, cats, or engangerd species

and don'tr forget this is occuring at the same time as the events in winter soldier so that puts Cap out of the picture. As they've shown Hydra had pervasibly invaded the one organization with the reach and resources to combat a threat of Hydra's magnitude Sheild so now it's only the smaller percentage of agents who weren't crooked left and their organization is outlawed.

of course the reality is this same story line was played out in the second Gi joe film in almost the same way

[boss]

I enjoyed it. But then again, I have from the beginning.

[hedrap]

I couldn't get past how cheap everything felt last night. The sets, the copter attack, even the score. We've discussed this before, so it's not new. But I think I might have figured out why it keeps coming up.

Consider how forgiving we are to Arrrow, or any of the CW shows. Even Smallville had a tight budget, but it wasn't an issue - until they began to try and produce above their means in the last seasons. But since it was "Small"ville, we accepted the narrow premise. Now, with Arrow and Flash we expect more, but not a massive difference because it's still CW and they've been distanced from the WB properties.

But AoS is on a network that produced Lost and other shows that were big in scope and able to match the production values. Then, add-in the movie connection, and it's a double-whammy. For example, if the CW shows existed in Nolan's Bat-world, I think we would be just as harsh on them, especially the depiction of Metropolis and the character designs. But they don't and we're not expecting huge because, well, it's the CW.

I think that's what's going to kill AoS. I mean, look at the scale of SHIELD in Winter Soldier. I can't recall an episode that gave a similar impression. Consider how the snow bunker of HYDRA's lair was depicted last night. It would be five times bigger in a movie. I think the only way this works, and it's probably too late considering the storyline at work, but if they just focused on field agents at different locations, interconnected only by Coulson.

[Random Axe]

All this intrigue may be too little, too late I'm afraid. I really like where this has gone in the last four weeks, but it should have gone this way before the mid-season break. I know they wanted to set up a lot of backstory to have stuff pay off now, but viewers are not the patient kind and turned away form this before it got good. Sure, it's the first real modern Marvel television effort, but someone should have known to go big early or go home at season's end. However, there were some cool reveals tonight.

Ward is seriously a bad dude, and hints point to that not being his real name. I'm guessing it's Tony Masters. Google that one folks.

The Cube is a thing now, leading to gamma related episodes next season if they survive to film them

Fury was not calling all the shots with Coulson. Also, how does soneome with all that deception keep his stories straight? Fury must be the best spy ever.

Garrett was shown with cybernetics. I bet he's got some implants similar to Deathlok and receives the same eyeball message orders from someone.

I thought Raina was going to morph into Viper at some point, but now it seems she's on the fence about everything.

[FETT1]

OK..I'm I the only one here not getting WHY the BIG SUPERHEROES are not here to help...hmmm...THOR ..the dude can travel to a different WORLD ,but we have a motley crew of young wanna be's trying to defeat HYDRA...
ONCE again ...the show is grasping....ahhhhh...its buggin moi !....still think the show is failing !...