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  • enyawd72
    Maker of Monsters!
    • Oct 1, 2009
    • 7904

    Ghost Rider movie poster contest...this is why posters today suck.

    Sony has a contest to create the movie poster for the upcoming Ghost Rider sequel, which I was super excited to enter until I read the rules.

    I had to put away my paint brushes...you can't enter hand drawn or painted art!

    They tell you to be as creative as you like, then restrict you to using required fonts and likenesses in the proper ratios and percentages, and creating a photoshop composite from a selection of crappy pre-approved clip art.

    So much for creativity.
  • johnmiic
    Adrift
    • Sep 6, 2002
    • 8427

    #2
    So they're trying to save money on advertiesing, eh?

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    • Brazoo
      Permanent Member
      • Feb 14, 2009
      • 4767

      #3
      Crowd sourcing - one more thing killing the graphic industry.

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      • Brazoo
        Permanent Member
        • Feb 14, 2009
        • 4767

        #4
        NO!SPEC | To educate the public about speculative (spec) work

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        • Meule
          Verbose Member
          • Nov 14, 2004
          • 28720

          #5
          Originally posted by enyawd72
          Sony has a contest to create the movie poster for the upcoming Ghost Rider sequel, which I was super excited to enter until I read the rules.

          I had to put away my paint brushes...you can't enter hand drawn or painted art!

          They tell you to be as creative as you like, then restrict you to using required fonts and likenesses in the proper ratios and percentages, and creating a photoshop composite from a selection of crappy pre-approved clip art.

          So much for creativity.
          Best movie posters were the hand drawn and painted posters from back in the day. I wish they'd bring those back
          "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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          • samurainoir
            Eloquent Member
            • Dec 26, 2006
            • 18758

            #6
            Between photoshop and the fact that actor's have say in size, billing and placement of their likeness on the posters, it's a real shame that they can't do old school illustrated posters anymore.

            You have guys like Bernie Wrightson working on designs that will never be seen outside of a making of book or dvd bonus feature... imagine what a kickass job he'd do on a movie poster for Ghost Rider?


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            • ctc
              Fear the monkeybat!
              • Aug 16, 2001
              • 11183

              #7
              Hmmmm....

              I suspect the limits for the contest are to protect the company from claims of copyright infringement. "No way! The movie bike is TOTALLY like the one I submitted on my poster!"

              Don C.

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              • enyawd72
                Maker of Monsters!
                • Oct 1, 2009
                • 7904

                #8
                Originally posted by ctc
                Hmmmm....

                I suspect the limits for the contest are to protect the company from claims of copyright infringement. "No way! The movie bike is TOTALLY like the one I submitted on my poster!"

                Don C.
                Could be...although they could still just provide you with reference material for the bike and say you can do whatever you like as long as you keep to the official design.

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                • enyawd72
                  Maker of Monsters!
                  • Oct 1, 2009
                  • 7904

                  #9
                  Originally posted by samurainoir
                  Between photoshop and the fact that actor's have say in size, billing and placement of their likeness on the posters, it's a real shame that they can't do old school illustrated posters anymore.

                  You have guys like Bernie Wrightson working on designs that will never be seen outside of a making of book or dvd bonus feature... imagine what a kickass job he'd do on a movie poster for Ghost Rider?


                  http://images.comicbookresources.com/c2f/ghostrider.gif
                  So, so true...Drew Struzan was very much looking forward to doing the entire Harry Potter series, but the studio opted for the old floating heads after the first film, so he put his designs in his new book I believe.

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                  • Brazoo
                    Permanent Member
                    • Feb 14, 2009
                    • 4767

                    #10
                    If you talk to the poster designers you'll find that it's the studios pushing for the actors faces to be HUGE on the posters - the actor's faces are used for brand recognition in the marketing.

                    For example, DVD's originally often re-used the movie poster artwork (why create new art?) What they found was that cropping pics of the actors and blowing them up huge resulted in more sales.

                    For example:

                    This:

                    on DVD became this: http://www.beyondhollywood.com/uploa...barian-dvd.jpg


                    This:

                    on DVD became this:


                    This:

                    on DVD became this:


                    Here's a blog on how Saul Bass' posters got mangled on DVD:
                    Saul Bass’ movie posters: then and now

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                    • Figuremod73
                      That 80's guy
                      • Jul 27, 2011
                      • 3017

                      #11
                      I was just thinking the other day while looking at DVD's how the covers seemed uninspired. I know why now. Yet another creative thing down the drain...

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                      • Brazoo
                        Permanent Member
                        • Feb 14, 2009
                        • 4767

                        #12
                        The 7 Romantic Comedy Movie Poster Clichés:

                        Cliché #1: Back-To-Back | The 7 Romantic Comedy Movie Poster Clichés | Features | Empire

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                        • StrangeVisitor
                          Career Member
                          • May 13, 2007
                          • 598

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Brazoo
                          If you talk to the poster designers you'll find that it's the studios pushing for the actors faces to be HUGE on the posters - the actor's faces are used for brand recognition in the marketing.

                          For example, DVD's originally often re-used the movie poster artwork (why create new art?) What they found was that cropping pics of the actors and blowing them up huge resulted in more sales.
                          While I don't doubt what you say, I find it odd that studios think dvd buyers in the mid-1990s or later would be so familiar with John Belushi or Yul Brynner , since their heyday was about twenty years before?

                          Originally posted by Figuremod73
                          I was just thinking the other day while looking at DVD's how the covers seemed uninspired. I know why now. Yet another creative thing down the drain...
                          My favorite example of a great movie poster (unused) vs final crappy dvd cover:



                          vs



                          Ghost Rider won't be the first Marvel movie to go this uninspired route, they have all been nearly the same design.
                          Last edited by StrangeVisitor; Nov 5, '11, 10:15 PM.
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                          • kingdom warrior
                            OH JES!!
                            • Jul 21, 2005
                            • 12478

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Brazoo
                            If you talk to the poster designers you'll find that it's the studios pushing for the actors faces to be HUGE on the posters - the actor's faces are used for brand recognition in the marketing.

                            For example, DVD's originally often re-used the movie poster artwork (why create new art?) What they found was that cropping pics of the actors and blowing them up huge resulted in more sales.

                            For example:

                            This: http://horrornews.net/wp-content/upl...n-poster-1.jpg

                            on DVD became this: http://www.beyondhollywood.com/uploa...barian-dvd.jpg


                            This: http://ca.movieposter.com/posters/ar.../MPW-54897.jpg

                            on DVD became this: http://www.timemachinetoys.com/dieca...alHouseDVD.JPG


                            This: http://media.tumblr.com/Q3vCFPeTTgqv...TjMFo1_500.jpg

                            on DVD became this: http://images.bizrate.com/resize?sq=450&uid=6822535


                            Here's a blog on how Saul Bass' posters got mangled on DVD:
                            Saul Bass’ movie posters: then and now
                            I despise computer generated art......always have, always will no secret with me. BUT these posters were designed at the time to be displayed on Buses,Trains,along highways on Billboards. so blown up, these poster design work.

                            They were never intended to be on DVD's reducing the artwork down the detail in the artwork is lost and it will blend with the hundred of other DVD's that are battling for your attention.
                            So re-designing it to be simple and eye catching is more what they're after.....
                            Last edited by kingdom warrior; Nov 5, '11, 10:51 PM.

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                            • Brazoo
                              Permanent Member
                              • Feb 14, 2009
                              • 4767

                              #15
                              Originally posted by StrangeVisitor
                              While I don't doubt what you say, I find it odd that studios think dvd buyers in the mid-1990s or later would be so familiar with John Belushi or Yul Brynner , since their heyday was about twenty years before?



                              My favorite example of a great movie poster (unused) vs final crappy dvd cover:



                              vs



                              Ghost Rider won't be the first Marvel movie to go this uninspired route, they have all been nearly the same design.
                              Young people weren't the only ones buying DVDs though - "boomers" bought DVDs like crazy - and they'd recognize those actors for sure.

                              Awesome poster example, by the way - and sad.

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