Some on location shots of Cavill as Superman

[The Bat]

Here's my thinking... What if the new look bombs in the comic book before the film comes out? Do they suddenly rush back into post production and add red drawers to try and perform some type of damage control? It just seems insane that they would re-brand everything and take this kind of chance. Even if the idea seem to take favor with everyone, nobody throws all their eggs into one basket this easily. They've got some real bozo's with little to no business wisdom running DC.

What makes you so sure that this new Superman costume is based on DC's new re-boot? This Superman movie has been in the works for awhile and Chris Nolan was put in charge of bringing it to production(WB dubbed him the Godfather). Nolan's relationship with Warner Brothers has been a good one, they trust him and pretty much let him do what ever he wants to do without creative interference.

[MIB41]

What makes you so sure that this new Superman costume is based on DC's new re-boot? This Superman movie has been in the works for awhile and Chris Nolan was put in charge of bringing it to production(WB dubbed him the Godfather). Nolan's relationship with Warner Brothers has been a good one, they trust him and pretty much let him do what ever he wants to do without creative interference.

Because DC has final say over product re-branding, not Nolan. And there is no coincidence that the two look similar for that reason. This was all decided upon before either the movie or the comics were made. Businesses do plan ahead before they show their hand, Bat. And while Nolan might have a good run with Batman, he certainly doesn't have enough clout to just own the company direction for that character in all venues. Having input for a movie project because of the success of Dark Knight is understandable. But don't mistaken that for more than what it is. One under performing film and he's yesterday's news again.

[sprytel]

Because DC has final say over product re-branding, not Nolan. And there is no coincidence that the two look similar for that reason. This was all decided upon before either the movie or the comics were made. Businesses do plan ahead before they show their hand, Bat. And while Nolan might have a good run with Batman, he certainly doesn't have enough clout to just own the company direction for that character in all venues. Having input for a movie project because of the success of Dark Knight is understandable. But don't mistaken that for more than what it is. One under performing film and he's yesterday's news again.

I agree with you that these decisions are made at a business level. But at the end of the day, Warner Brothers makes blockbuster movies. Movies that make a lot more money than comics do... whether we like that fact or not. So it doesn't seem crazy to me that these character designs have more to do with what Hollywood types think would work well on the big screen. Everything else (including the comics themselves) is secondary.

[MIB41]

I agree with you that these decisions are made at a business level. But at the end of the day, Warner Brothers makes blockbuster movies. Movies that make a lot more money than comics do... whether we like that fact or not. So it doesn't seem crazy to me that these character designs have more to do with what Hollywood types think would work well on the big screen. Everything else (including the comics themselves) is secondary.

Good point. But I believe the real basis for these decisions don't come for film. I believe the real intent is toys. Where you can muster some profit from film, the amount of investment to find profit is much higher. Whereas with toys, you can find profit readily faster with a smaller risk to investment. Look at all the different action figure lines that have come out based on both movies and comics? It can even be said toy sales often save movie projects that otherwise flounder (like Green Lantern). So I think there is alot of wisdom in what you say, but I think the endgame is toys since one figure purchase can comprise two or more movie tickets.

[The Bat]

Well, Nolan gave Batman a rubber/armored suit in Batman Begins long before DC's planed "re-boot"...and now Nolan's producing Superman, and Superman is wearing a rubber Alien looking suit. There's no real proof that the Comics are dictating to the Movies...only theory.

[Random Axe]

This movie is going to cost 200 million plus, waaaaaaay more than DC Comics can make in several years through publishing. WB is pulling all the puppet strings here. I sincerely doubt this reboot/relaunch was willingly submitted to by DC editorial. It was likely more like an ultimatum. Make these books more like the films or we'll step in. DC comics is a tiny percentage of the overall business for WB. I can't see them having the power to influence the movie marketing machine/monster.

Plus, consider that the original release date was for next Christmas, just slightly more than twelve issues into the revival. It got pushed back to Summer 2013, so there are a lot of puzzle pieces up in the air at this point.

I'm kinda starting to like the suit a little. If we get a great movie by dealing with the costume as-is, then fine, let's get to it.

[huedell]

I wonder how Smallville's audience would have felt when after ten years of waiting, Clarke put on this suit.

"Wow... a Superman suit from far away, seen for a few seconds, that looks kinda like Reeves' w/out the briefs."

VS.

"Wow... a Superman suit from far away, seen for a few seconds, that looks much like Reeves'."

[The Bat]

This movie is going to cost 200 million plus, waaaaaaay more than DC Comics can make in several years through publishing. WB is pulling all the puppet strings here. I sincerely doubt this reboot/relaunch was willingly submitted to by DC editorial. It was likely more like an ultimatum. Make these books more like the films or we'll step in. DC comics is a tiny percentage of the overall business for WB. I can't see them having the power to influence the movie marketing machine/monster.

Plus, consider that the original release date was for next Christmas, just slightly more than twelve issues into the revival. It got pushed back to Summer 2013, so there are a lot of puzzle pieces up in the air at this point.

I'm kinda starting to like the suit a little. If we get a great movie by dealing with the costume as-is, then fine, let's get to it.

All excellent points! And to put it another way...besides the Chris Reeve Superman Movies...how often has Hollywood gone out of the way to make Superhero costumes look more like the comics? How about NEVER?!

[huedell]

Since this film has got Ma and Pa El and Kent, its bound to have several origin elements. Perhaps he eventually drops his Kryptonian suit and adopts the standard suit in the end to honor his adoptive homeworld.

How big of a roar would that bring about from the theater audience?

Laughter (roar)?

If not a humorous jab at brief-wearing heroes, ... I don't think it'd make a big difference to the typical movie goer.

[kingdom warrior]

All excellent points! And to put it another way...besides the Chris Reeve Superman Movies...how often has Hollywood gone out of the way to make Superhero costumes look more like the comics? How about NEVER?!

HUH???? Kirk Alyn's and George Reeves are very close to the Comic...actually Chris Reeves S was way different than George Reeves and KirK Alyn's i remember when I was a kid at first not liking the S......

[ctc]

>this new Superman seems to be missing his iconic spit curl

I think it sorta got overshadowed by the Superbulge.

Don C.

[torgospizza]

I think the costume's biggest flaw isn't so much that it looks inherently bad, but rather than reminding us of how Superman's from an alien culture (which is what I suppose they're going for), it will just date the film to this time period. You can watch superhero films--or even comic books, for that matter (Liefeld's creations are excellent examples)--and pretty much tell when they were made based on the costumes' designs.

[The Bat]

HUH???? Kirk Alyn's and George Reeves are very close to the Comic...actually Chris Reeves S was way different than George Reeves and KirK Alyn's i remember when I was a kid at first not liking the S......

I believe we were talking about comic to MOVIE translations...which movies were Kirk Alyn & George Reeves in? Also...who the hell are Kirk Alyn & George Reeves?

[The Toyroom]

I believe we were talking about comic to MOVIE translations...which movies were Kirk Alyn & George Reeves in? Also...who the hell are Kirk Alyn & George Reeves?

You're not serious are you? Kirk Alyn was the first movie serial Superman and George Reeves was the first TV Superman whose 1st two episodes were edited together as a feature length movie...

[MegoSteve]

It really wasn't until 1989 and the success of the Batman movie that TV and movies started screwing around with superhero costumes.