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>I'd really like to know how them not being there is somehow an improvement
It's more akin to the Emma Peel jumpsuits that superheroes have been wearing in film since the first X-Men movie. 'Cos it's closer to how everything else is done it's good.
I don't understand why they'd mess with the suit like that. You're probably going to have half a billion dollars riding on this thing when all is said and done, it's hard enough to make a good super hero movie, why handicap yourself right out of the gate by messing with the most famous costume in the history of popular culture?
'Cause apparently in some Bizarro World logic, no shorts= increased sales for comic books and movie tickets
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I'm not crazy about losing the shorts, but I'll reserve judgment until I see him in action on screen. I've grumbled about many a super hero suit in about every moving going, from Batman 89 onward, and I usually end up being fine with said suit on screen. Captain America being the latest. I never did really warm up to the Superman Returns look though.
If they went the old school route and dressed Kryptonians like Superman's costume, the whole thing would make sense, and they could justify the shorts, since they think they need to for same reason.
I don't understand why they'd mess with the suit like that . . . the most famous costume in the history of popular culture?
Sadly, I've had this discussion in the comic store before, and there's a faction out there that really finds the trunks (or "underpants on the outside" as they all say) unbearably silly and uncool, and I think a lot of them are running the comics compamies now. I kinda get why you might want to "run things trhough the reality filter" when making movies, but Superman's so outrageous anyway, and the look *so* iconic, I don't get the point in changing it on the page or on screen to appease a group that really doesn't like the character anyway.
Yeah, been in that one, too -- the equation works (in their math system) when you see these guys start putting trenchcoats on the characters . . .
But y'know, the red trunks aren't anything they can't fix digitally in post-production when the DCNU tanks and in the books the big guy's back in his classic togs
Personally, no matter what they do I think the movie will fail.
Superman is not at home in today's society.
People want Batman and heroes like him.
I think they should just let Supes be until people get sick of Batman type heroes.
I think a lot of people think that way Mike. But I think that if they tackled the Superman movie like they did Captain America, they'd have a hit on their hands. Cap was portrayed as the earnest character he is, and the movie had plenty of action, a good villain, and a believable, likable love interest. The movie was FUN, in an old fashioned "good time at the movies" way which is lost to most folks these days.
Superman Returns was way to introspective for it's own good. With Snyder at the helm this movie may skew too dark. It's too early to say. But if they captured the feel of the Cap film, they'd have Superman done right, and I think audiences would get it.
I think a lot of people think that way Mike. But I think that if they tackled the Superman movie like they did Captain America, they'd have a hit on their hands. Cap was portrayed as the earnest character he is, and the movie had plenty of action, a good villain, and a believable, likable love interest. The movie was FUN, in an old fashioned "good time at the movies" way which is lost to most folks these days.
Superman Returns was way to introspective for it's own good. With Snyder at the helm this movie may skew too dark. It's too early to say. But if they captured the feel of the Cap film, they'd have Superman done right, and I think audiences would get it.
Yet Superman Returns has made more money than Captain America so far...yes...Superman Returns cost more to make...but its box office results were from 2006 money...
I really think Cap suffered from super hero fatigue. Had he came out first, he would have done better than Thor, just on word of mouth. Here in in the States anyhow. Although Thor is a well done movie, that is also quite a bit of fun.
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