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  • kingdom warrior
    OH JES!!
    • Jul 21, 2005
    • 12478

    #16
    Again i'll say it and Samurainoir showed it. There IS NO DECLINE in his artwork that was a loose sketch he did that Marvel published. That drawing is 100 times better than most current Marvel artist can do on a good day.....

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    • Earth 2 Chris
      Verbose Member
      • Mar 7, 2004
      • 32981

      #17
      ^I think Adams just doesn't care to polish his artwork like he used to. When he inked his own stuff it was more raw and less slick than when Giordano inked it (see Batman #251 for example), but he seems to be more "sketchy" now than even back then.

      The "improvements" he made to the Batman Illustrated volumes shows this. Side-by-side to his older stuff, I think it actually looks inferior.

      He has held up better than most artists do, though.

      Chris
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      • kingdom warrior
        OH JES!!
        • Jul 21, 2005
        • 12478

        #18
        Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
        ^I think Adams just doesn't care to polish his artwork like he used to. When he inked his own stuff it was more raw and less slick than when Giordano inked it (see Batman #251 for example), but he seems to be more "sketchy" now than even back then.

        The "improvements" he made to the Batman Illustrated volumes shows this. Side-by-side to his older stuff, I think it actually looks inferior.

        He has held up better than most artists do, though.

        Chris
        True, I'm good friends with Mark Beachum who use to do Samuree for Continuity. Mark had told me that back then Neal had a whole studio system going on where many of his top guys would ink Neal's work....Neal would only ink the faces so it looked like his signature face......he might be still doing it this way....

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        • samurainoir
          Eloquent Member
          • Dec 26, 2006
          • 18758

          #19
          Last edited by samurainoir; Aug 12, '11, 8:48 PM.
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          • EMCE Hammer
            Moderation Engineer
            • Aug 14, 2003
            • 25768

            #20
            Originally posted by emeraldknight47
            I agree. It's always good to see Neal Adams' work, but The Avengers this ain't. And why is it that Adams' art is degrading? I know he's getting older. but it's like he's not happy with how his stuff looks/looked, so he's trying to make it look like someone else. Sad. Adams' is one of the grandfathers of modern comics art....
            I had the same reaction - what happened to his art?!? Good grief it's unrecognizable.

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            • samurainoir
              Eloquent Member
              • Dec 26, 2006
              • 18758

              #21
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              • samurainoir
                Eloquent Member
                • Dec 26, 2006
                • 18758

                #22


                Just occurred to me
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                • emeraldknight47
                  Talkative Member
                  • Jun 20, 2011
                  • 5212

                  #23
                  OK. For an Adams piece, that Captain America sucks....
                  sigpic Oh then, what's this? Big flashy lighty thing, that's what brought me here! Big flashy lighty things have got me written all over them. Not actually. But give me time. And a crayon.

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                  • emeraldknight47
                    Talkative Member
                    • Jun 20, 2011
                    • 5212

                    #24
                    But the Daredevil piece is pretty sweet. Maybe it's just that Adams' style lends itself to characters like Daredevil, Batman, etc.

                    But on the other hand, he did do iconic Superman and his Green Lantern run is still largely without peer....
                    sigpic Oh then, what's this? Big flashy lighty thing, that's what brought me here! Big flashy lighty things have got me written all over them. Not actually. But give me time. And a crayon.

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                    • The Toyroom
                      The Packaging King
                      • Dec 31, 2004
                      • 16653

                      #25
                      Originally posted by emeraldknight47
                      OK. For an Adams piece, that Captain America sucks....
                      Yeah it does....He should be airborne with those head wings
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                      • thunderbolt
                        Hi Ernie!!!
                        • Feb 15, 2004
                        • 34211

                        #26
                        ^^^ And where do you get a rubber flag pole. Never cared for Adams all that much, but man he's really hit the wall.
                        You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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                        • The Toyroom
                          The Packaging King
                          • Dec 31, 2004
                          • 16653

                          #27
                          For me, some of Adams best artwork was on The Avengers during the Kree-Skrull War (inked by Tom Palmer I think)...but all of this modern stuff like these Marvel covers, Batman Odyssey and even the redos/recolors he did on the Deadman HC just leave me cold...
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                          • kingdom warrior
                            OH JES!!
                            • Jul 21, 2005
                            • 12478

                            #28
                            At 70 years old the man still draws rings around most artist....sorry I fail to see what part of "He sucks" applies..... Has his work changed yeah a bit but he's not a 20 year old. he's 70 years old and he's not a starving artist anymore with anything to prove. Can he still draw dynamic poses Yup! If he had a Great inker doing his work and "fixing" the things he just doesn't want to do any more....most people would be none the wiser.

                            Point John Bryne is a great artist but Terry Austin's inks made his X-men run Legendary

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                            • samurainoir
                              Eloquent Member
                              • Dec 26, 2006
                              • 18758

                              #29
                              Old school goodness






                              Last edited by samurainoir; Aug 13, '11, 12:55 PM.
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                              • samurainoir
                                Eloquent Member
                                • Dec 26, 2006
                                • 18758

                                #30


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